Ivan Perisic

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I have seen Inter and I have seen Perisic. He is overrated on this forum.

Edit: I have seen people put Perisic on the right but in that case Candreva should be the target.
I don't get it, do we have to buy an Inter player? It's like Mourinho never bought a winger that was spectacular on the left to use him on the right…
 
From a purely football perspective they are better off cashing on him. 45m for an unhappy good but not world class 28 year old is big money in the EPL let alone in the Serie A. There again common sense and Inter doesn't often work well together. They are the ones who would sell Roberto Carlos for peanuts simply because the manager didn't like him only to sack that same manager few months after.

Regarding United we should consider other options.

I fully agree with selling him for the quoted amounts as I don't consider him to be anywhere near worth that. But that was not the question here. Inter obviously values him differently and as long as 45 or 50 million pounds are not enough for them, Perisic has to continue to act professionally.

As for us, I also agree, it's time to move on. We have a massive scouting department. Surely there must be other options available.
 
I fully agree with selling him for the quoted amounts as I don't consider him to be anywhere near worth that. But that was not the question here. Inter obviously values him differently and as long as 45 or 50 million pounds are not enough for them, Perisic has to continue to act professionally.

As for us, I also agree, it's time to move on. We have a massive scouting department. Surely there must be other options available.
Mourinho visited him in a Croatia international game and met his agent. This is well beyond scouting now.
 
This is a typical Mourinho “discovery” and insistence that might, all things considered, prove to be bad or not good enough. Nevertheless, can the club afford to negate him this new toy?

Apparently, Spalletti and Inter directors are so worried about the players' behaviour they are considering letting him out of the China tour. I think the deal will be concluded in the next few days, unless the clubs break their relationship completely.
 
I think you all are seeing little bit too much in that picture. He is Croatian, and it is in our nature to lean on the wall or whatever you can lean on or to sit or lie down whenever it is possible. Saves the energy.





Can't do white text on the phone. Damn it.
 
Mourinho visited him in a Croatia international game and met his agent. This is well beyond scouting now.

I wasn't talking about us scouting for alternatives now but rather having alternatives lined up now. I mentioned the scouting bit just to point out that Perisic can't be the only suitable winger for us.
 
To be more accurate and fair, people underrate our players more than they overrate Perisic.

It's shocking how the opinion on Martial has crashed so dramatically.
 
It's shocking how the opinion on Martial has crashed so dramatically.

It's not shocking, its typical caf thing. There will be small section for every player, they will be loudest when the player isn't playing well.
 
It's shocking how the opinion on Martial has crashed so dramatically.
A lot of the fans are still in the honeymoon phase with Mourinho and eat up everything he says/suggests. He clearly dislikes Martial so now it's accepted wisdom that he's shite.
 
Rather put the money towards a crazy deal for Sanchez but if its Perisic or no one, I've come to accept it's an upgrade on most of the wing options we currelty have, in fact our only recognised natural winger is ashley young.. get it done for under 40m
 
I mean, what's left to say after those crosses' numbers? Although, to be honest, by what I see on the videos, most of them can be useless and we might despair with his lack of judgment. Even if Martial started the same number of games, he would probably have only half. Strange Rashford or Mata aren't there, cause they ended up being our main option on the wings.

Mikis numbers were similar in comparison last year. He made the rest of our attack (apart from martial) look sh1t with his stats. I thought miki was decent last season but could do better. Peresic will be 30 the season after next. He needs to hit the ground running I feel.
 
I fully agree with selling him for the quoted amounts as I don't consider him to be anywhere near worth that. But that was not the question here. Inter obviously values him differently and as long as 45 or 50 million pounds are not enough for them, Perisic has to continue to act professionally.

As for us, I also agree, it's time to move on. We have a massive scouting department. Surely there must be other options available.

I don't think that Inter value him differently. I believe that they know the player's real worth. However if they sell Perisic and they end up with a winger version of the Borja random guy then there will be a fans revolt. Inter fans aren't like our fans. They don't embrace shit players because they are tall and they work hard and they certainly won't settle for an Ashley Young while their cousins are busy buying a Hazard! They need alot of £££ so they can buy Perisic muppet replacement.
 
I mean, what's left to say after those crosses' numbers? Although, to be honest, by what I see on the videos, most of them can be useless and we might despair with his lack of judgment. Even if Martial started the same number of games, he would probably have only half. Strange Rashford or Mata aren't there, cause they ended up being our main option on the wings.

Is it good or really bad for Perisic?

He has something like two or three assists out of those 239 crosses, he played 1200 more minutes than Martial but barely hedges him in assists and he doesn't have the excuse of the quality of his striker because Icardi is arguably as good as what we have. He is the typical example of Inter's recent failures, inefficiency.

He scored more goals and had 1 less assist...compared to those 3 players combined. It's obvious Perisic will improve the team and be the only natural winger. He's good for United.
 
I wasn't talking about us scouting for alternatives now but rather having alternatives lined up now. I mentioned the scouting bit just to point out that Perisic can't be the only suitable winger for us.

Just find out whoever Dortmund are scouting for the left wing at the minute and sign him instead. We will be linked with a 50 million e bid in 2 seasons anyway : p
I joke I joke. We have the potential in martial. This is the player the manager wants and part of what he thinks can make us successful again. Give it to him and let's see how we go. I think a few of us will be pleasantly surprised if it all clicks into place. The fee is horrible but it's not our cash and never will be. All we can do is enjoy what's put on the pitch in front of us at the end of the day.
 
He scored more goals and had 1 less assist...compared to those 3 players combined. It's obvious Perisic will improve the team and be the only natural winger. He's good for United.

He played almost twice as much as Martial and only has 2 more assists when the entire caf agrees that our finishing was poor last season. And bare in mind that playing constantly and not fearing the bench helps a lot.

We shouldn't base our opinion on that table but if we did Martial is a better candidate.
 
He played almost twice as much as Martial and only has 2 more assists when the entire caf agrees that our finishing was poor last season. And bare in mind that playing constantly and not fearing the bench helps a lot.

We shouldn't base our opinion on that table but if we did Martial is a better candidate.
Given that Martial had 17 goals and 11 assists the season before as a 19/20 year old in a LVG United team that were offensively dreadful, Martial would have probably ended up with 20 goals and 15 assists last season had he played for say Roma or Napoli. Inter however were pretty poor going forward as well, so Perisic's numbers aren't the worst.
 
He scored more goals and had 1 less assist...compared to those 3 players combined. It's obvious Perisic will improve the team and be the only natural winger. He's good for United.

He had decent stats but it was in a league where Alejandro Gomez had sixteen goals and ten assists. He was also 'outperformed' by the likes of Salah, Callejon and Immobile.

The stats aren't that impressive when you consider just how average that league really is.
 
He had decent stats but it was in a league where Alejandro Gomez had sixteen goals and ten assists. He was also 'outperformed' by the likes of Salah, Callejon and Immobile.

The stats aren't that impressive when you consider just how average that league really is.
The premier league isn't brilliant but our attacking players were still rubbish.
 
A lot of the fans are still in the honeymoon phase with Mourinho and eat up everything he says/suggests. He clearly dislikes Martial so now it's accepted wisdom that he's shite.
Stop peddling this as though it's fact. Throughout his career, Mourinho has frequently dropped and criticised players he rates and thinks very highly of specifically to test their character and get the best out of them. Mourinho's treatment of Martial by no means indicates conclusively that he doesn't like him. If anything, its more likely he sees enormous potential and is trying to turn him into the player he knows he can be.
 
Relying only on martial for the left wing role would be foolish. Another option with pace, ability to cross, and capable of scoring goals would hardly be a bad one.
 
Stop peddling this as though it's fact. Throughout his career, Mourinho has frequently dropped and criticised players he rates and thinks very highly of specifically to test their character and get the best out of them. Mourinho's treatment of Martial by no means indicates conclusively that he doesn't like him. If anything, its more likely he sees enormous potential and is trying to turn him into the player he knows he can be.
Ok, fair enough: he criticised Martial and was clearly disappointed with his performances. Therefore, a huge section of the Caf stopped rating Martial.
 
Ok, fair enough: he criticised Martial and was clearly disappointed with his performances. Therefore, a huge section of the Caf stopped rating Martial.
Martial was quite rubbish this past season.
 
Relying only on martial for the left wing role would be foolish. Another option with pace, ability to cross, and capable of scoring goals would hardly be a bad one.

Especially relying on someone who didn't look like they gave a flying feck for most of the season.
 
Relying only on martial for the left wing role would be foolish. Another option with pace, ability to cross, and capable of scoring goals would hardly be a bad one.

And we shouldn't. We should upgrade that position.
 
They certainly were which is exactly why I want us to improve on them. I don't think Perisic does that.

We need guile in our attacking play, not a kick and rush merchant who will cross the ball ten times a game.
Errm... So Rashford must be your least favourite player then?
 
Martial was quite rubbish this past season.
Like all our attackers except Ibrahimovic. But only Martial's stock dropped significantly on the Caf. His end product was on a similar level to Rashford's but the latter is rated much higher.
 
Mikis numbers were similar in comparison last year. He made the rest of our attack (apart from martial) look sh1t with his stats. I thought miki was decent last season but could do better. Peresic will be 30 the season after next. He needs to hit the ground running I feel.
That's why we are getting him, because he seems a finished (good enough) product, also psychologically.
 
Mourinho visited him in a Croatia international game and met his agent. This is well beyond scouting now.
There is nothing to support those claims beyond Mourinho being in croatia (and watched a game that perisic was absent from) and meeting with Mijatovic who is not Perisic's agent AFAIK.
 
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