Not another body to the mix, a different body. There's no one in the squad like him, he adds variety. I actually think Mourinho sees him as a Di María profile with more end product (not saying he's a better player, of course).
Ivan Perisic
- Thread starter prtk0811
- Start date
- Status
This is just wrong, you've got it the complete opposite. Literally every player we played on the wing this season was not a proper winger. Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Mikhi and Mata, none of them are true wingers, they all like to either drift inside or cut inside with their dribbling. None of them do any of the the things an out and out winger would do, create width and stretch the defense, beat his man on the outside and play balls in the box.
Perisic would be completely unique in our side and would actually give us some much much needed width. When we play so compact in the middle it's hard to find space, especially as we didn't really have an attacking left back. He's also pretty creative and offers a decent amount of goals and assists. But to say he's just another body is completely missing the point and impact he'd bring tactically
People have been crying out for width and proper wingers, yet they moan when we try to sign one. Not galactico enough. Boohoo
I think the lad would be a revelation in the PL
I think the lad would be a revelation in the PL
Words of wisdom here finally.
A revelation is a stretch. He'd be a solid player but I don't see him pulling up any trees for us. He's just not in that bracket.
I agree I think he would be perfect. However any average performance will be condemned here unfortunately.
And you still get people confused or arguing otherwise on why would we need DoF. One thing you can be sure of DoF never approves this iditioc 50M transfer for Perisic given his resale valuation, league he's in right now and previous track record in terms of performances.
What you have now is every manager brings his own drastically different vision that leaves us very vulnerable when they eventually depart, essentially no continuity and consistency.
It can turn out to be a great transfer for all we know but 8 times from 10 that kind of transfer activity proves to be detrimental and on a quality spectrum we end up with the squad filled with players of Fellaini-like abilities (nothing against the guy).
What you have now is every manager brings his own drastically different vision that leaves us very vulnerable when they eventually depart, essentially no continuity and consistency.
It can turn out to be a great transfer for all we know but 8 times from 10 that kind of transfer activity proves to be detrimental and on a quality spectrum we end up with the squad filled with players of Fellaini-like abilities (nothing against the guy).
This is just wishful thinking in my opinion, there's a reason he's at Inter Milan at 28. He's a good solid player but he would be nothing special for us if we signed him. Yes, he may have good games and nice moments but he doesn't elevate our attack to where it needs to be.
Was never a revelation at BuLi or Serie A but he will be one in the PL? Sure.
In my view he can turn out to be a very good signing for us & an important one too especially considering all our wide players like to drift in we genuinely need someone who can stretch the opposition defense & drag their CBs out of position & create space for other players. Against top clubs who likes to defend narrow and high press he can be a massive outlet. If we play Micky in no.10 role he will have more space to operate by letting perisic stay out wide & we can create situation where we can isolate him against full backs and create opportunities.
He will be a very important player in big games considering the way Jose plays with counter attacking football ( his goal against croatia at euros is the best example). He might turn out to be a very important signing for us this season & Morata if both goes through. For me he is a no brainer the way Jose sets up his team. Thats just my view
He will be a very important player in big games considering the way Jose plays with counter attacking football ( his goal against croatia at euros is the best example). He might turn out to be a very important signing for us this season & Morata if both goes through. For me he is a no brainer the way Jose sets up his team. Thats just my view
This basically. He might not be world class, but hes a good player and for croatia gets to very good. The main thing is though that hes completely different from what we have, but its the type of player that every team needs. A proper winger with pace and dribbling. Literally all our "wide" options are either play makers or strikers cutting in. None are actual wingers, and we need one.
Let's consider and rate some of our post-Ronaldo options on the wings*:
Valencia B+
Obertan F
Welbz C
Martial B
Lingard C+
Depay D
Mata B+
Perisic isn't exactly competing with a whole lot...we could and already have had far worse
Valencia B+
Obertan F
Welbz C
Martial B
Lingard C+
Depay D
Mata B+
Perisic isn't exactly competing with a whole lot...we could and already have had far worse
I think the point of contention is his age and more so the asking price of 50m. If we are spending close to that amount I guess we expect a better profile for a player especially at that age.
Exactly this. It's not like he is going transform into a world beater at his age. You're not buying potential but current ability, which is quite average in his case.
What is average? He'd be a better winger than everyone from Everton and below, above that he's currently probably better than the likes of Sterling, Sane, Iwobi, Walcott, Lingard, Rashford, Lamela. Furthermore he offers things that not many other wingers offer, that is pace, two-footedness, scoring ability but also a very good crosser and can create, go in and outside and offers workrate. Dont act like the PL is full of Neymars, Robbens, Giggs, Ribery, Figo's.
Just listen to yourself, after finishing 6th and marginally tripping into the CL, you think what United need is a winger that is just better than these players, players who have yet to reach their potential. If being just better that Lingard is what we are going for then I suppose we should just forget trying to go back to the top then.
I don't think motta or milito were before they were mourinified
who would you sign then ? given that we finished sixth and play hyper negative football? bale maybe?
After finishing 5th, Spurs signed only Alderweireld and Alli from league 1 team for first team, Alli wasn't even signed for first team and they finished 3rd.
Next season, they signed only Wanyama for first team, they finished 2nd. So from 5th to 2nd with 3 first team signings.
Perisic is lot better than how he is rated here.
I like this one. I think we have already a strong side and we shouldn't buy much. I expect a lot also of Andreas Pereira (similar to Kaka, could turn up just like Alli).
Tbh I think Perisic would be a great addition to our squad. No matter what I think he'd be successful. In his head everything works right as I know him, he's just a simple croatian and wouldn't cost us much (talking about wages). We need such player, hardworker, someone that youngsters could look up to.
He's class, you'll se if we buy him. But let's just wait until the end of this week, or next week. I think if anything happens on transfer window it should happen in this couple of days.
Couldn't have put it down better myself. Martial might be the one exception in his ability to genuinely run at people and create some space occasionally, but apart from him - Mata, Mikhi, Lingard and Rashford are prone to cut in and try to pass their way to an opening.
Perisic would be a welcome addition in the sense that he is comfortable with both feet, willing to bomb down the wings while tracking back (you don't see enough of that these days anyway) and stretch defences with his pace.
Guess people have been spoiled with mega stellar signings over the past few seasons and the fact that he does not fit into anyone's definition of a United Galactico - if I may say that - makes sombre reading for some. We should look where the team is lacking quality and fill it with players that would improve that area rather than clamouring for every player that we could dream of.
Last edited:
Especially as some people want James as the alternative, who literally would be another square peg being shoved into a round hole. We have so many number 10s yet people would rather us sign another than an actual winger.
No doubt James is a good player but so was Mata and Mikhitaryan when we signed them. The point is none of these guys can play to full potential is they are in an unbalanced and ineffective system. Mikhi got 32 assists the season before we signed him, if we surrounded him with the right type of players he could reproduce that, if we just shove another superstar, playmaker no 10 and hope it all just fits together despite there being no balance at all we're going to have the exact same problems we've had every season. Then next summer everyone will want us to sign the next shiny galactico no 10 who's on the market
Agreed. We should look for more balance in the team rather than going all bonkers at the biggest name available in the market.
Morata, Matic, Perisic and Lindelof would represent fantastic business as far I am concerned - all fill potential problematic areas that might be exposed during the course of the season. And going by how folks are reacting to them here, I would say each one of them is massively underrated by everyone. Would love to see these lads integrate into the team and hit the ground running.
Mikhi should ideally be lined up for the no. 10 role after regaining some of the faith that Jose had lost in him; but then Mata would be the odd one out as I see no. 10 being his most effective position. He could well end up on the right wing, again, for next season. What a loss to have him playing there though.
Haven't changed my opinion on him since we were first linked. I think many may have changed their tune judged by the early comments. I don't believe he is of the quality required and is the wrong profile for us. We need to sign someone who can become truly world class.
I see this post a lot, and no one really mentions any names. Who are you thinking of that our manager etc. are totally overlooking.
I agree, if come november december time these signings turn out to be effective signings I will be the first to say, yep he proved me wrong. I think its a gamble that has too many risks and the money involved is playing a hefty gamble, woodward has the headache of answering to shareholders on the combined fees for players who should cost 49 million not over a hundred million
To be fair it's not the fans' responsibility to scout players. Perisic is an underwhelming transfer for the reported fee and I would hope our full time professional scouts could find someone else.
I don't get why so many people care about the money, is it because people in the pub will take the piss if they flop? I don't really care if we spend trillion billion on a lad, especially these days when money in football is just ridiculous and it's all a pretty sickening use of currency.
Of course it isn't, but still doesn't answer my question. Everyone thinks we can do far better and yet.....no names.
In truth I agree to an extent, but actually think he'll have a much more positive impact on the team than many on here seem to.
Then the professional scouts/coaches have done their job, as a fans we just have to follow it?
All I know is that there must be a lack of talent in the market (or poor scouting on our part) if Perisic is the best player available. I think he's a solid player who will have good games for us but we need drastic improvements to our attack.
How do you know then the players we'll scout will be better than Perisic if you don't know them ?
Much as I agree, these days you buy a player for his contract length, the days of thinking 10 years we are sorted now (Luke Shaw anyone) have gone.
So 28.5 so we would just about get 4 seasons I would think. At 50m though, no thanks, id rather us sign nobody.
Ousmane Dembele would be my first choice though a RW. Obviously he wouldn't come cheap but Dortmund are a selling club traditionally and I'm a fan. I also think that on paper Salah is a better signing , he outperformed perisic last year in goals and assists and is considerably younger.
In any case I dont think theres anything wrong in saying someone is not good enough, despite not having the perfect solution yourself. This is the job of the manager/scouts at the end of the day. At the price quoted (~£45) we should be getting a better product.
It's funny that you say it's a job for the manager and scouts, when it's the manager and scouts who have identified Perisic as a suitable signing for our team.
For 50 million we getting one year out of this player in his 20's, now if I am ed and I have shareholders to answer to, they are going to be asking, what the hell? Think many fans have forgotten the club is not fully owned by the glazer family anymore, its like the problematic days under kenyon, where chief executive has PPL to answer to, not just the owner and the manager on why his transfer targets are not hit
And we have shareholders to answer to also, who ed is going to find it very hard justifying this kind of spending. I think a few are forgetting its not fully owned by the glazer family anymore
It's because Manchester United don't have infinite money. Spending 50 million on an average player would mean we will have less money to spend on World Class players in this window and the future. It also sets a precedent that we are willing to spend unreasonable amounts on players if the manager really wants him. Everyone will justifiably hold us to ransom even more.
In fact would dries mertens not be a far better shout? He's a year older but would instantly improve us and surely wouldn't cost more then £50m? Just a far better option in my opinion and far more productive, if we're signing an older player lets make sure they are top top class.
Dont take your own conclusions and come with better options. I would rather have Bale too but we need a winger now with specific qualities which Perisic have. We dont even have anyone in the team bar Pogba with a good final ball or cross. Perisic is a very versatile winger who needs more consistency, but a better option than what we have. His situation is similar to Morata's, no world class players who havent proven too much; but have certain qualities and the profile Mourinho wants, to play his football. Also we will grossly overpay
Last edited:
@dichinero my post also went against the notion he's average, he's better than the average but not world class no.
- Status