Feck. Some on here would have been topping themselves in the 70s and 80s.
ITT: Poster who doesn’t want to waste emotion returns with emotional buzzfeed essay insulting fans
- Thread starter Raees
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I clearly wasn't speaking about myselfI get what you are trying to say, even if it is OTT. Most want Jose to be gone and are fed up with the toxic atmosphere around the club.
He changed the title. It had something about the "third reich" in it which I assume was a hint to Mourinho's third season.
The hell did I just....
Probably the first time in about a decadeWe can agree there
Well written, I agree with the majority of it.
Prepare yourself to be attacked though.
Prepare yourself to be attacked though.
Not that bad a summary considering you're taking the piss.
Yes it is melodramatic, purposefully so to spark a debate about how complicit the fans are in causing our current predicament. Perhaps went a bit far with certain analogies/buzzwords but so be it. Forget Ed, forget Jose.. we have dinosaurs within our own fan base, and a certain segment who seem to think 'winning at all costs' is a effective philosophy at the expense of playing good football. They've gotten into the mindset that if we now dare to play good football, we are giving in to the 'good football' brigade and 'hipsters'. It is ridiculous, as 8 times out of 10 a winning side, is well-drilled and tends to play good football. Not to mention they have a very 'player-centred' approach to criticism as in whenever we play poorly - it is players at fault, and are oblivious to the effects of good coaching. Furthermore it seems unforgivable to give a player a run of games and let them play through bad patches of form, or give them confidence.. instead all of them should have incredibly thick skins and handle being arbitrarily dropped, even though certain favorites never get dropped when they're just as ineffective.
Anyone who thinks this is well written should stop reading things. It's long, it's flowery, it's a dumb, long winded, pointless, attention grab and a waste of a thread, that belongs to one of many other threads with similar albeit less stupidly expressed topics, but it's not well fecking written.
There was a reference to Nazi Germany in the title before. 'Third Reich syndrome' or something like that.
You might have had some general idea where you were heading with that at the start, but the way it has been laid out ended up looking like it was written during a full-blown psilocybin mushroom trip.
All this Mourinho supporters are right wingers stuff makes me think there might be a "Make Alexis Great Again" hat business opportunity.
Yeey. We have a right wing! Does he hit the shins when crossing the ball?
This is the best thread I’ve read in a long time.
Mourinho and Donald Trump are certainly very similar in how they behave I’m glad someone else has noted that.
Mourinho and Donald Trump are certainly very similar in how they behave I’m glad someone else has noted that.
Are you suggesting strangers with no inside knowledge of a situation shouldn't produce and publish wild and lofty leaps of logic to support their on personal narratives about another person's plight on a public platform? Great idea. OP should take note.
This must be one of the earlier posts from those 1,000 monkeys trying to write up Shakespeare
The thread title now.
Really disappointed with the mods changing this thread title. We should encourage posts like this.
My eyes! Anyone got a summary of this?
Im sure bluemoon and RAWK will get some mileage out of it.
...and I agree with what you say above almost entirely. That point was somewhat buried in the OP.
If he is why doenst he play himself there instead of asking for Willian.
#JoseOut
@Raees
Have I got the right or wrong perception of what you are saying?
Shortened version - there is a religious view of looking at football & a scientific view at looking at football.
Religious view might seem stronger - but ultimately they believe whatever they are told & will support anything whether it is right or wrong - the red necks.
The scientific approach to football may pick up mistakes early - a type of mindset that is open to the club changing & prefers it going in a certain direction over another. This is also related to the players, how they are coached & general expectations of the club.
What you fall in - is ultimately your view on football & how you expect to see United in the future.
This is what I believe in anyway; there is this hierarchy structure of supporters keep as a way of igniting their own viewpoints.
See I find myself in the scientific view of football and supporting United; where for pure example - thought that going for Jose after LVG and him buying players like Lukaku to glorify at the top of our club was a waste of time; considering it amplied success over pure club capability. Now that the club is struggling; i sit there being argued to be less of a supporter by the red necks but also having analysed and expected the problems that were to come. Some just want the club to win and do not care how it is done, which players are used and which tactics - they are the religious followers of football. I am not that and want to see an identity, a structiure, a scientific formation to my football club.
@Fingeredmouse
Have I got the right or wrong perception of what you are saying?
Shortened version - there is a religious view of looking at football & a scientific view at looking at football.
Religious view might seem stronger - but ultimately they believe whatever they are told & will support anything whether it is right or wrong - the red necks.
The scientific approach to football may pick up mistakes early - a type of mindset that is open to the club changing & prefers it going in a certain direction over another. This is also related to the players, how they are coached & general expectations of the club.
What you fall in - is ultimately your view on football & how you expect to see United in the future.
This is what I believe in anyway; there is this hierarchy structure of supporters keep as a way of igniting their own viewpoints.
See I find myself in the scientific view of football and supporting United; where for pure example - thought that going for Jose after LVG and him buying players like Lukaku to glorify at the top of our club was a waste of time; considering it amplied success over pure club capability. Now that the club is struggling; i sit there being argued to be less of a supporter by the red necks but also having analysed and expected the problems that were to come. Some just want the club to win and do not care how it is done, which players are used and which tactics - they are the religious followers of football. I am not that and want to see an identity, a structiure, a scientific formation to my football club.
@Fingeredmouse
Well I tried reading the OP and gave up mid way, improvement as I gave up after Sevilla game quotes and read replies.
So many share the general point, that we are lacking and left behind in the modern game. We need to improve a lot.
Reading OP reminded me of the glorious article.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/jul/31/sport.comment
So many share the general point, that we are lacking and left behind in the modern game. We need to improve a lot.
Reading OP reminded me of the glorious article.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/jul/31/sport.comment
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This is a forum if you haven't noticed. The topic he's speaking on and the view he's expressed is absolutely valid. It's just the representation that is completely off, unlike your posts the actual context of which was poor.
What? I'm saying you haven't a clue whether the OP has 'underlying issues' or is a 'madman' so it's best to jump to such pointless insinuations.
This is a forum if you haven't noticed. The topic he's speaking on and the view he's expressed is absolutely valid. It's just the representation that is completely off, unlike your posts the actual context of which was poor.
Well written and you had the bottle to write it. A lot may feel they want Mourinho out but would not put it into these words.
RAWK get enough mileage out of the way we play, I imagine a lot of this will be seen as quite intelligent.
Have a word with yourself. I'm not gonna bother reading any further.
Agreed.
Yes,ok, but that's not what the OP says is it? I mean your initial post was in response to a request for a summary of the OP which doesn't make any points regarding scientific analysis of football vs. religious viewpoints of football. I'm not going to derail this thread (which admittedly might be tricky) by discussing what qualifies as support of a football club under the scientific method.
The fans from the 50s/60s (my Dad) are romantics? I'll let my Mum know... she'll laugh her head off.
Also the fans from the 80s are jingoistic rednecks but what about the fans from the 70s? I'm interested to know what my "tag" is.
Also the fans from the 80s are jingoistic rednecks but what about the fans from the 70s? I'm interested to know what my "tag" is.
To be fair to @Raees, it was well written. Red pill vibes aside of course...
So if United go on a 10 match winning run (not going to happen, but for the sake of argument) and propel themselves into pole position then he is still not going to be arsed because Mourinho would be in charge..? Cool.
I think this is just worded badly, I think he means going to games.
I’m very close to kicking it on the head. There was a tucking almost famous burger van outside OT the other day and I was surrounded by lads who literally had come over from America and weren’t interested in the game in the slightest. Mix that up with a manager who goes against the very heart and soul of the club and I begin to wonder why I bother.
Successful, is that you?