Payback for the cheating they did in the past maybe ? Just kidding but yes this is a horrible decision!
This reminds me of Portugal.
This reminds me of Portugal.
Italian Serie A 2022/23
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Crazy finish, no idea what was happening at the end
Love Serie A, best league to watch after the PL imo
Been trying to follow it this season. Quality is a bit lower than I'd hoped, even compared to a few years ago as far as I can tell with all the financial problems but it's certainly fun.
I think I've decided to adopt Fiorentina this season. But they're going down though aren't they? Looked completely listless yesterday.
there are worse teams. They have too much quality to sink
Nah, just FIGC wanting a Wacky Races cartoon and different winners year after year, with Juventus in the Dick Dastardly’s villain role, admittedly, which adds to the entertainment.
Dybala bloody brilliant and a huge bounce back win for Roma after both Juve and Atalanta dropped points.
Absolute dogfight in Série A !
Absolute dogfight in Série A !
Allegri is doing an amazing job with Juventus.
Time for Poch?
My manager!
Tuchel makes more sense than Poch.
ehehe...
Don't worry Bepi, I got the memo long ago: anything that hurts Juve fans and/or anyone that doesn't fully worship Juventus grandeur weakens the whole of Italian football, and the tragedy is that the peasants that support other teams don't even realize their masochism. Sure.
Anyway, on this particular juicy episode...
...first, a preamble: Serie A tv rights regulations state that clubs can manage the setup (according to Lega Calcio specifications) and operation of the cameras in their own stadium (whose feeds are sent to the various broadcasting rightholders control rooms), or they can let Lega Calcio do that for them.
Most big clubs including Juventus chose to take care of that on their own.
Among the various specified camera positions, there is one, which I believe is optional, far up in the central stand, dubbed "tactical cam", which in most stadiums is the only one that can provide a complete view of the half of the pitch it gets pointed at.
The name comes from the fact that most clubs use its recordings for post-match analysis and players debriefings.
FIGC VAR rules dictates that any camera position that output a live feed for broadcasting must be sent to the VAR control room.
Since the introduction of VAR in Serie A, I remember some protests from FIGC and AIA to Juventus regarding VAR feeds, as it seems that the tactical cam in Juventus Stadium does record the match, but it doesn't have a live feed for broadcasting (with Juventus citing colorimetry technical issues with the installed camera that would make it unsuitable for broadcasting) which means that it isn't available to VAR too.
And indeed, from the twitter screenshots of Sky post-match analysis that uncovered the VAR error:
you can clearly see that the feed VAR used to draw the offside line is very likely from the Hawk Eye goal line detection camera (as the goal line is perfectly vertical and aligned with the goal posts)
while the clip showing Candreva that Sky obtained is from the central tactical cam, indeed showing a wildly different color grading.
Also, today the AIA confirmed that no feed showing Candreva was available to VAR officials.
So, there you have it:
the italian refs association candidly admitting that in some stadiums they are content to measure VAR offside without the assurance of being able to see the whole of the relevant part of the pitch at all times;
and a club being bitten in the ass by their lack of willingness to collaborate to improve VAR in their own stadium.
It is indeed farcical.
And, Bepi, maybe one day you'll realize how much Juventus is in on this farce as well.
That is a beautiful detailed post and it true I think the Juve higher ups should have themselves to blame.ehehe...
Don't worry Bepi, I got the memo long ago: anything that hurts Juve fans and/or anyone that doesn't fully worship Juventus grandeur weakens the whole of Italian football, and the tragedy is that the peasants that support other teams don't even realize their masochism. Sure.
Anyway, on this particular juicy episode...
...first, a preamble: Serie A tv rights regulations state that clubs can manage the setup (according to Lega Calcio specifications) and operation of the cameras in their own stadium (whose feeds are sent to the various broadcasting rightholders control rooms), or they can let Lega Calcio do that for them.
Most big clubs including Juventus chose to take care of that on their own.
Among the various specified camera positions, there is one, which I believe is optional, far up in the central stand, dubbed "tactical cam", which in most stadiums is the only one that can provide a complete view of the half of the pitch it gets pointed at.
The name comes from the fact that most clubs use its recordings for post-match analysis and players debriefings.
FIGC VAR rules dictates that any camera position that output a live feed for broadcasting must be sent to the VAR control room.
Since the introduction of VAR in Serie A, I remember some protests from FIGC and AIA to Juventus regarding VAR feeds, as it seems that the tactical cam in Juventus Stadium does record the match, but it doesn't have a live feed for broadcasting (with Juventus citing colorimetry technical issues with the installed camera that would make it unsuitable for broadcasting) which means that it isn't available to VAR too.
And indeed, from the twitter screenshots of Sky post-match analysis that uncovered the VAR error:
you can clearly see that the feed VAR used to draw the offside line is very likely from the Hawk Eye goal line detection camera (as the goal line is perfectly vertical and aligned with the goal posts)
while the clip showing Candreva that Sky obtained is from the central tactical cam, indeed showing a wildly different color grading.
Also, today the AIA confirmed that no feed showing Candreva was available to VAR officials.
So, there you have it:
the italian refs association candidly admitting that in some stadiums they are content to measure VAR offside without the assurance of being able to see the whole of the relevant part of the pitch at all times;
and a club being bitten in the ass by their lack of willingness to collaborate to improve VAR in their own stadium.
It is indeed farcical.
And, Bepi, maybe one day you'll realize how much Juventus is in on this farce as well.
A.S.roma will win this year's Italian league because they got a special one he is Jose Mourinho
ehehe...
Don't worry Bepi, I got the memo long ago: anything that hurts Juve fans and/or anyone that doesn't fully worship Juventus grandeur weakens the whole of Italian football, and the tragedy is that the peasants that support other teams don't even realize their masochism. Sure.
Anyway, on this particular juicy episode...
...first, a preamble: Serie A tv rights regulations state that clubs can manage the setup (according to Lega Calcio specifications) and operation of the cameras in their own stadium (whose feeds are sent to the various broadcasting rightholders control rooms), or they can let Lega Calcio do that for them.
Most big clubs including Juventus chose to take care of that on their own.
Among the various specified camera positions, there is one, which I believe is optional, far up in the central stand, dubbed "tactical cam", which in most stadiums is the only one that can provide a complete view of the half of the pitch it gets pointed at.
The name comes from the fact that most clubs use its recordings for post-match analysis and players debriefings.
FIGC VAR rules dictates that any camera position that output a live feed for broadcasting must be sent to the VAR control room.
Since the introduction of VAR in Serie A, I remember some protests from FIGC and AIA to Juventus regarding VAR feeds, as it seems that the tactical cam in Juventus Stadium does record the match, but it doesn't have a live feed for broadcasting (with Juventus citing colorimetry technical issues with the installed camera that would make it unsuitable for broadcasting) which means that it isn't available to VAR too.
And indeed, from the twitter screenshots of Sky post-match analysis that uncovered the VAR error:
you can clearly see that the feed VAR used to draw the offside line is very likely from the Hawk Eye goal line detection camera (as the goal line is perfectly vertical and aligned with the goal posts)
while the clip showing Candreva that Sky obtained is from the central tactical cam, indeed showing a wildly different color grading.
Also, today the AIA confirmed that no feed showing Candreva was available to VAR officials.
So, there you have it:
the italian refs association candidly admitting that in some stadiums they are content to measure VAR offside without the assurance of being able to see the whole of the relevant part of the pitch at all times;
and a club being bitten in the ass by their lack of willingness to collaborate to improve VAR in their own stadium.
It is indeed farcical.
And, Bepi, maybe one day you'll realize how much Juventus is in on this farce as well.
Your house of cards, again, comes down easily: the linesman and the referee had agreed the goal was ok in first instance, and all the players had seen and felt it was good in the way any professional knows first hand when it’s good or not. You spent one hour in the night to write a pile of sh*t, clutching at straws as usual… yet, nobody cares, over here, they are just….. entertained!
Didn't they get spanked by Udinese or something
Ngl, this is a poor response.
the italian refs association candidly admitting that in some stadiums they are content to measure VAR offside without the assurance of being able to see the whole of the relevant part of the pitch at all times;
and a club being bitten in the ass by their lack of willingness to collaborate to improve VAR in their own stadium.
This is pretty mental. I'm in favour of VAR but it shouldn't be employed if it hasn't been installed properly in all stadiums.
and a club being bitten in the ass by their lack of willingness to collaborate to improve VAR in their own stadium.
This is pretty mental. I'm in favour of VAR but it shouldn't be employed if it hasn't been installed properly in all stadiums.
Wait, wait… I am calling the VAR!
The number of occurrences in favor and against any Serie A team since its introduction in 2017. Here you find the updated numbers: https://www.repubblica.it/sport/cal...juventus_classifica_interventi_var-365425698/ .
(I am all in favor of VAR acting as Robin Hood and add to the circus, mind… yet, it is entertainment… you can read the latest pages of this exact topic with people laughing their a** off at our clowns… on and off the pitch).
“That they didn't have to love each other was clear from the very first moment. Do you know how the Var manifested itself to Italy on a Saturday afternoon in 2017? Guessed it: giving a penalty against Juventus. Since that time, history has repeated itself often. Much, much more often than for others. And the Juve-Salernitana incident is only the latest episode, among other things due to a wrong call: five years after its introduction, the balance is almost surprising: Juventus is the most "hated" team by the Var.”
TEAM / PRO / CON
Juventus / 23 / 44
Inter / 33 / 26
Milan / 35 / 32
Napoli / 41 / 22
Roma / 28 / 29
Lazio / 37 / 28
Atalanta / 33 / 27
Bologna / 19 / 28
Fiorentina / 37 / 21
Sassuolo / 31 / 40
Sampdoria / 32 / 32
Torino / 25 / 31
Udinese / 25 / 35
There is a cost associated with putting 18 or 12 cameras live on a game, and Juve-Salernitana was deemed not worth the maximum cost. The list of A games is agreed in advance between the League and the clubs, but our dear Inter crybaby fan was again writing numbers without their context.
This again, doesn't answer the claim being made that the VAR officials did not get any official footage using which Candreva could be spotted. Are you saying that this is a lie and VAR purposefully screwed Juve against Salernitana?
So referees favour Juve the most and VAR brings it at least a little bit closer to what it should be.
Wow, in all this circus, you just won the funfair doll!
Thank you! I will put it next to my Kenwood juicer.
The good is there are new games already, so this is going to be dumped in a few hours with Allegri hoping the adrenaline shot revives his zombies for Benfica, tomorrow night in the CL.
This is not saying something you think it is.
It says VAR made right decisions, which could have been ref's wrong decision in favor of Juventus.
You barely escaped defeat in a game where your team was dominated by f***g Salernitana. A team worth 5 or 6 times less than your squad... And instead of calling out the poor state of your team, you are crying out about a goal in the 94th that would (should) have given you an undeserved victory.
The entertainment culture is so ingrained and pervasive these days that you both are using X Factor vocabulary (poor and underserved, ref‘s wrong decision to be corrected) to assess a sport event (unpredictable, momentous, made of episodes). There is a reason the two domains are merging more and more.
You need to stop puffing and start passing, Bepi. We need some of the good shit you're chiefing
What may have been lost was Atalanta failing to beat Cremonese. You’d think if they want to really challenge for the title, they’d win those games
That's nonsense tbf. You have tinfoil hat on and read that table completely wrong.
Half an hour ago, the latest take from one of the football columinsts (former Juve player during the Platini era) at Corriere della Sera (now owned by the media mogul also owning Torino): https://www.corriere.it/sport/calci...la-14160e46-3373-11ed-80fb-2302675b77bf.shtml
"The Var was introduced to prevent Juventus from continuing to win the league titles." Signed Massimo Mauro. The former footballer, who has been a TV commentator for years, has never been one of half positions. He goes straight to the point again this time, he has his say on the macroscopic mistake made by Marcenaro and Banti in Juve-Salernitana, with the 3-2 Juventus goal scored by Milik canceled due to an alleged offside by Bonucci. Which instead was kept in play by Candreva.”
Stopping here, now. I have to join my fellow Tinfoil Hat FC minions to induce a spell wave onto Benfica. Nanu Nanu!
So former Juve player is saying Var was introduced to prevent Juventus from winning the league? Is he implying with VAR Juve can't buy refs easily so it is getting difficult for them?
I know yesterday result was shit, especially with VAR making blunder but your posts are not making any sense.
This is the part where i explain that it's pointless to talk about this things with juventus fans. They think it was Ronaldo that fouled Iuliano ffs 
Roma is one of the contenders this year but I think it’s too fast to decide at this moment. The league has over 5 teams that have potential to win.
@Bepi I think you should calm a bit down, mate.
I understand the Juventus’s situation in last game against Salernitana.
I understand the Juventus’s situation in last game against Salernitana.
If you think VAR is the reason you can’t challenge for the title, I got some terrible news for you.
Juve fans want Montero to replace Allegri
Question is: Montero would be warming the seat for…….. ?
Question is: Montero would be warming the seat for…….. ?
Tuchel is a better choice.
I think Agnelli needs to go and start a new cycle elsewhere, with Ferrari seeming a logical move within both his interests and family’s portfolio. Juventus FC needs a new hierarchy and a fresh project as well… after that, a new coach implementing their vision.