unless you said "I'm engaged to a man" I'm struggling to comprehend as to how he interpreted that as you being gay
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Most are run by untrustworthy Jews though.
http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/internet/jews_behind_internet.htm
I'm engaged & I'm gay can sound similar.
Try saying "I'm engaged" in the mirror to yourself over and over again, I'm sure you'll find out the truth in the end.
Well the western media is clearly pro-zionist.
Did you have to say "I'm gay" I'm the mirror over and over before you could tell other people?
Really?
Then why the extensive coverage of the palestinian suffering in Gaza?
Surely any western media outlet wouldn't want to upset it's Zionist pay masters?
Not as much as the pathetic coverage of poor Israelis terrorized by artisanal rockets. Also, the power of social media nowadays doesn't help.
And a lot of books on Jewish history. Still no names for me eh?
The Zionist paymasters probably just get off on watching it - quick bit of Palestinian suffering on the nine o'clock news to get them in the mood for an early night.
In fairness I think the coverage is fairly balanced as long as you avoid fox etc
Seeing the phrase GOOGLE JEW made me laugh. I don't know why, but it just sounds funny.
Hellboy....do you agree with this?
The sorry truth is that the virus of anti-Semitism has infected the British Muslim community.
It's a shameful fact that Muslims are not only the victims of racial and religious prejudice but purveyors of it, too.
by Mehdi Hasan, Published 21 March, 2013
If tomorrow, God forbid, I were to cause the death of an innocent man with my car, minutes after sending a series of texts on my mobile phone, I’m guessing I’d spend the rest of my life riddled with guilt. What I wouldn’t do is go on television and lay the blame for my subsequent 12-week imprisonment at the door of . . . wait for it . . . the Jews. Yet that’s what the Labour peer Nazir Ahmed did in April 2012 – less than five years after causing a car crash on the M1 in which Martin Gombar, aged 28, was killed.
“My case became more critical because I went to Gaza to support Palestinians,” he says to his Pakistani interviewer in Urdu, in a video recording obtained by the Times. “My Jewish friends who own newspapers and TV channels opposed this.” The judge who put him behind bars, Lord Ahmed claims, was appointed to the high court after helping a “Jewish colleague” of Tony Blair’s during “an important case”.
To claim that your jail sentence for dangerous driving is the result of a Jewish plot is bigoted and stupid. The peer has since been suspended from the Labour Party and forced to stand down as a trustee of the Joseph Interfaith Foundation. I’m not sure how many “Jewish friends” he has left – if, that is, he had any to begin with.
Full disclosure: I know Lord Ahmed and have defended him in the past. In 2007, he flew out to Sudan to help free the schoolteacher Gillian Gibbons from the clutches of the odious Islamist regime in Khartoum. In 2009, an Appeal Court judge noted how the peer had “risked his life trying to flag down other vehicles to stop them colliding with . . . his car”. He is not a latter-day Goebbels. But herein lies the problem. There are thousands of Lord Ahmeds out there: mild-mannered and well-integrated British Muslims who nevertheless harbour deeply anti-Semitic views.
It pains me to have to admit this but anti-Semitism isn’t just tolerated in some sections of the British Muslim community; it’s routine and commonplace. Any Muslims reading this article – if they are honest with themselves – will know instantly what I am referring to. It’s our dirty little secret. You could call it the banality of Muslim anti-Semitism.
I can’t keep count of the number of Muslims I have come across – from close friends and relatives to perfect strangers – for whom weird and wacky anti-Semitic conspiracy theories are the default explanation for a range of national and international events. Who killed Diana and Dodi? The Mossad, say many Muslims. They didn’t want the British heir to the throne having an Arab stepfather. What about 9/11? Definitely those damn Yehudis. I mean, why else were 4,000 Jews in New York told to stay home from work on the morning of 11 September 2001? How about the financial crisis? Er, Jewish bankers. Obviously. Oh, and the Holocaust? Don’t be silly. Never happened.
Growing up, I always assumed that this obsession with “the Jews” was a hallmark of the “first-generation” immigrants from the subcontinent. In recent years, I’ve been depressed to discover that there are plenty of “second-generation” Muslim youths, born and bred in multiracial Britain, who have drunk the anti-Semitic Kool-Aid. I’m often attacked by them for working in the “Jewish owned media”.
The truth is that the virus of anti-Semitism has infected members of the British Muslim community, both young and old. No, the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict hasn’t helped matters. But this goes beyond the Middle East. How else to explain why British Pakistanis are so often the most ardent advocates of anti-Semitic conspiracies, even though there are so few Jews living in Pakistan?
It is sheer hypocrisy for Muslims to complain of Islamophobia in every nook and cranny of British public life, to denounce the newspapers for running Muslim-baiting headlines, and yet ignore the rampant anti-Semitism in our own backyard. We cannot credibly fight Islamophobia while making excuses for Judaeophobia.
To be honest, I’ve always been reluctant to write a column such as this. To accuse my fellow Muslims of being soft on the scourge of anti-Semitism isn’t easy; I feel as if I am “dobbing in” the community, telling tales to the non-Muslim teacher. Nor do I particularly want to assist the English Defence League in its relentless campaign to demonise all Muslims, everywhere, as extremists and bigots.
We aren’t. And we’re not all anti-Semites. But, as a community, we do have a “Jewish problem”. There is no point pretending otherwise. That Bradford’s Council for Mosques has been campaigning to save the city’s last remaining synagogue from closure doesn’t change the fact that thousands of British Muslims will have been nodding in agreement as they read Lord Ahmed’s comments about Jewish power and influence – or will have assumed that the Times scoop is evidence in its own right of a “Zionist plot” against the peer. Oh, and I’m well aware that this column will also be held up by some of my fellow Muslims as “proof” that “Mehdi Hasan has sold out to the Jews”.
I only hope and pray that Lord Ahmed’s comments will act as a wake-up call to Britain’s moderate Muslim majority. The time has come for us to own up to a rather shameful fact: Muslims are not only the victims of racial and religious prejudice but purveyors of it, too.
In 2011 Baroness Warsi, the then Conservative Party chairman, said that Islamophobia has “passed the dinner-table test” in polite British society. I agree with her, but what she omitted to mention, and what we Muslims must now admit, is that anti-Semitism passed the dinner-table test in polite British Muslim society long ago.
What do you need to do to call yourself a Lord?
They call you Gaylord behind your back so you are almost there.
Excellent. I'm kicking names and taking ass.
I am Lord ya ya ya.
I'll be kind this time. I even have a jewish writer for you : Gilad Atzmon - The wondering Who. He talks about Jewish identity among other things. Have a look.
Ah yes, Atzmon. I'm familiar with his work.
He's someone who even the most radical elements of the pro-Palestinian BDS movement, for example Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada and Asad Abukhalil (The Angry Arab), have dissociated themselves from.
Here's a petition of Palestinian writers and activists denouncing him as a notorious antisemite - http://electronicintifada.net/blogs...sts-disavow-racism-anti-semitism-gilad-atzmon
Or as Abukhalil, someone who regularly compares Israel to Nazi Germany, says here - http://angryarab.blogspot.ie/2009/01/friends-we-dont-need.html
Balanced indeed.
He's someone who even the most radical elements of the pro-Palestinian BDS movement, for example Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada and Asad Abukhalil (The Angry Arab), have dissociated themselves from.
Here's a petition of Palestinian writers and activists denouncing him as a notorious antisemite - http://electronicintifada.net/blogs...sts-disavow-racism-anti-semitism-gilad-atzmon
Or as Abukhalil, someone who regularly compares Israel to Nazi Germany, says here - http://angryarab.blogspot.ie/2009/01/friends-we-dont-need.html
Balanced indeed.
Did you read his book ?
I've read bits of it - enough. Most of it is available to read on google books. I've read much more of his self-published work on his website. He thinks there is some essential thing as 'Jewishness', or a specifically tribal 'Jewish politics' which explains all subsequent Jewish actions, and that anyone who self-identifies as a Jew cannot escape it. That is classic antisemitism. He likes to speculate on such things as whether Hitler may be proved right (p. 179 of the book), and claims that Jews need to reconsider "the circumstances that led to the clear resentment of Europeans towards their Jewish neighbors." And so forth.
At his website you can find stuff like the following - http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/a-radical-thinker.html
I could go on and on. The guy has been exposed ten times over as a racist and nazi sympathiser. Not exactly someone to look to for a balanced account of Jewish history or identity. But I can see now where you got your '4000 years' shite from.
At his website you can find stuff like the following - http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/a-radical-thinker.html
I could go on and on. The guy has been exposed ten times over as a racist and nazi sympathiser. Not exactly someone to look to for a balanced account of Jewish history or identity. But I can see now where you got your '4000 years' shite from.
I just knew you had a soft spot for him.
The essence of the book is not denying the holocaust but putting the it on an equivalent par as a host of other massacres in human history : Armenia, Africa, Native Americans (the biggest massacre in human history). And also criticizing the fact that Zionists used the Nazi holocaust to justify an ethnic cleansing program in Palestine which is in fact another form of holocaust (Naqba), in the middle of the the Arab Wold : a recipe for chaos. Atzmon successfully draws parallels between the two : The Nazis racialism along with the concept of "choseness" which is vastly used by extremist jews that have been dominating Israel's political life for the best part of its existence.
You zionist apologists see antisemitism everywhere, so maybe even the truth is probably anti-semitic.
The essence of the book is not denying the holocaust but putting the it on an equivalent par as a host of other massacres in human history : Armenia, Africa, Native Americans (the biggest massacre in human history). And also criticizing the fact that Zionists used the Nazi holocaust to justify an ethnic cleansing program in Palestine which is in fact another form of holocaust (Naqba), in the middle of the the Arab Wold : a recipe for chaos. Atzmon successfully draws parallels between the two : The Nazis racialism along with the concept of "choseness" which is vastly used by extremist jews that have been dominating Israel's political life for the best part of its existence.
You zionist apologists see antisemitism everywhere, so maybe even the truth is probably anti-semitic.
You really are hilarious. Or insane.
With Israel being the only multi-cultural, democratic country in the ME, replete with Arab MP's, Soldiers, Doctors, Carpenters etc etc. you have the balls to suggest it's some kind of Nazi state.
Ethnic cleansing....then how come 20% of Israelis are Arab/Muslim??????.
Why haven't they been removed like the 800,000 Jews booted out of the Arab states?
What a chutzpah.
20 % of Arab/Muslims humiliated, living in apartheid, marginalized and spat on. A little bit like Jews in Nazi Land.
Oh yes, Israel what a beautiful multi-cultural country, led by the humanist Netanyahu and the most morale army in the world : Tsahal.
In what sense are Ali Abunimah, a son of 1948 refugees and a leading spokesman of the BDS movement, or Asad Abukhalil, whose ancestral home in southern Lebanon was bombed by Israel during the Lebanese civil war, zionist apologists?
The guy you rely on to inform your knowledge of Jewish history believes that David Duke understands Jewish issues better than him. That says it all.
That sounds like heaven compared to Nazi Germany.
There are collaborators everywhere.
Yes it's a summer camp. That's why the Palestinians need to bend over and turn the other cheek until the last one dies.
Still not Nazi Germany though, so you should adjust your idiotic rhetoric because no one here is going to take you seriously.
There's quite a long list of signatures on that petition against Atzmon I've posted above. Here's another one with an even longer list - http://threewayfight.blogspot.ie/p/atzmon-critique_09.html
They all collaborators? People who have given their lives for the Palestinian cause? Before you go touting Atzmon around again as some kind of revolutionary truth-teller, I really recommend you actually read these petitions to see the kind of damage done by his kind to the Palestinian cause.
I don't care about your black lists. I read the book without knowing anything about the man, and I thought it was a brilliant read.
The people who do damage to the Palestinian cause are those who drop bombs, those you support and love, not Gilad.
Like it or not, there are a lot of similarities between Nazism & Zionism. Being taken seriously, especially by people like you, is actually very low on a priority list.
The people who do damage to the Palestinian cause are those who drop bombs, those you support and love, not Gilad.
Like it or not, there are a lot of similarities between Nazism & Zionism. Being taken seriously, especially by people like you, is actually very low on a priority list.
If people who mattered didn't care about being taken seriously by the masses they wouldn't achieve anything, so it's probably a good thing you don't care because your brand of lunacy is exactly what this conflict doesn't need.
There's a fecking lot of things to criticize Isreal for, that you'd even bother comparing it to Nazi Germany shows how intellectually vacant your arguments are.
There's a fecking lot of things to criticize Isreal for, that you'd even bother comparing it to Nazi Germany shows how intellectually vacant your arguments are.
The conflict needs more people like you to bend over to Israel after 60+ years of colonization and terror until the last Palestinian dies.
If, rather than turning up every now and again, spouting shite and shouting at everyone like a madman you actually read what everyone was saying you'd have noticed that I despite the way Israel treats Palestinians. But coming in, using the fecking Quran as part of your arguments and comparing Israel to the Nazi's makes you part of the problem.
Have a little respect for the Qu'ran. You're very very very small compared to it and I know you'd rather read the talmud but c'mon stay classy. The actual facts are that the conflict is now 60+ years old, and the people like you who "criticize" Israel for its best part have done nothing to improve the Palestinian cause. You coax and cajole them because you don't have the courage to attack the real problems.
Nah, it's just another fairy tale that ruins peoples lives and keeps them in the dark ages.
The masses who criticize Isreal, even if relatively unsuccessful to far, are slowly making governments around world change their stance on the issue. That's eventually going to count for something.
What real problems am I overlooking? All I've challenged so far is your Nazi rhetoric.
The masses who criticize Isreal, even if relatively unsuccessful to far, are slowly making governments around world change their stance on the issue. That's eventually going to count for something.
What real problems am I overlooking? All I've challenged so far is your Nazi rhetoric.
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You insult the Quran but at the same time back a state founded on the basis of biblical assumptions, you're what I'd call a fecking mess.
You back the throwing out / ethnic cleansing of Jews on the basis of Quranic assumptions.
Your the mess.
you know that there is a ignore function?
I made use of it yesterday. It all becomes rather pointless since you can seldom convince a bigot of his ignorance.
Saying they're not Nazi's is pretty shit backing considering some of things I've called them in this thread. The Quran is shite though, and trying to use it to solve a political problem is only going to lead you further from the solution.
Oh there it is the classic Hasbara, it never gets old does it. 
Gotta love the inversed accusations.
Gotta love the inversed accusations.
Hellboy has achieved the not-inconsiderable feat of making Fearless appear moderate. Well done.