Israeli - Palestinian Conflict

penalty snot said:
All is perfectly fine in this Arab country.
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I'm sorry, but unless you're being ironic, "all is perfectly fine" and "Arab country" can never go in the same sentence.

That is unless you are a male, indigenous Emirati who sits on his arse all day and have foreign companies offer you 50% of their turnover for your citizen sponsorship.
 
Atheist Arab women not only vote in Israel, but also get elected to Parliament. Obviously, they then collaborate with Israel's enemies for the common goal of promoting its destruction.
 
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Colin129 said:
Your hatred for Israelis, and Jewish people in general, looks far more huge and rather more worrying.
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So is it more worrying to hate a jew than an arab ? Also, a lot of people in the western world are islamophobic and proud of it; likewise, I have the right to have my reservations about Zionist jews (or judeo-protestants in general) that are the real problem in the region.
 
holyland red said:
Atheist Arab women not only votes in Israel, but also get elected to Parliament. Obviously, they then collaborate with Israel's enemies for the common goal of promoting its destruction.
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That's not the point though is it? The fact that she is allowed to stand for parliament in the first place debunks all the nonsense that people speak about Israel being an apartheid country. In which Arab countries would she be allowed to stand for Parliament? Or even watch a men's volleyball game?
 
Hellboy said:
So is it more worrying to hate a jew than an arab ? Also, a lot of people in the western world are islamophobic and proud of it; likewise, I have the right to have my reservations about Zionist jews (or judeo-protestants in general) that are the real problem in the region.
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2 wrongs don't make a right, you were the one criticising Fearless for his dislike of Arabs whilst proclaiming your hatred of Israelis and Jewish people. What makes you think one is worse than the other, or less bad than the other?
 
Hellboy said:
Where did I claim my hatred for JEWSIH people please ?
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I'd say this is pretty unpleasant, wouldn't you?

Hellboy said:
Oh yes those poor little innocent jews again. They haven't been kind to history neither.

Amazing how this generation have been brainwashed to the idea that jews are the poor little victims in the script.
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Sorry but these are facts, zionist jews are always playing the victim/anti-semetisim/holocaust/we-suffered-a-lot card.
 
Hellboy said:
Oh yes those poor little innocent jews again. They haven't been kind to history neither.

Amazing how this generation have been brainwashed to the idea that jews are the poor little victims in the script.
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I don't have reason to support either side. You were just factually incorrect. Jews have been disproportionately shafted throughout history. Doesn't excuse their treatment of Palestinians at all, actually makes it worse. But still, facts.
 
Colin129 said:
I hope you are not denying the Holocaust now? No, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one.
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Haha you're funny. I'm not denying anything, I'm just stating the fact that zionists always bring the holocaust to the table even when they're committing abject warcrimes in Gaza, like : "look how much we suffered, it's only normal to protect ourselves".
 
Hellboy said:
Where did I claim my hatred for JEWSIH people please ?
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I'd imagine the confusion might be down to the following quote, where you failed to distinguish between what you term Zionist Jews and Jews in general:

4000 years of history show that muslims/arabs are more trustful than jews.
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Since Zionism is a very modern phenomenon with its origins in the late 19th century, you might want to clarify what you mean by '4000 years of history'?
 
Hellboy said:
Haha you're funny. I'm not denying anything, I'm just stating the fact that zionists always bring the holocaust to the table even when they're committing abject warcrimes in Gaza, like : "look how much we suffered, it's only normal to protect ourselves".
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So is it not normal to protect yourself?

Unfortunately, turning the other cheek is not something that occurs in these situations, on either side.
 
Colin129 said:
So is it not normal to protect yourself?

Unfortunately, turning the other cheek is not something that occurs in these situations, on either side.
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Which has precisely nothing to do with the people of Palestine, or arabs and muslims in general.
 
Did you have your Macdonald meal Red Yankee ? The biggest concentration of obese ignorant people is precisely concentrated in your country, and your rhetoric suggests you fit the profile.
 
peterstorey said:
Assuming you're not an atheist, woman, migrant worker or someone expecting to vote.
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Spoken like someone who's never lived here.

Kaos said:
I'm sorry, but unless you're being ironic, "all is perfectly fine" and "Arab country" can never go in the same sentence.

That is unless you are a male, indigenous Emirati who sits on his arse all day and have foreign companies offer you 50% of their turnover for your citizen sponsorship.
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I'm not being ironic. It's perfectly fine for many here. You may not agree with what is fine, but there are faults in everyone's homeland.

I like your example of locals though. Very amusing.
 
Colin129 said:
True, but what relevance does that have?
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Europeans should have paid the price for the crimes committed against jews, not muslims. Palestinians have been living in Jerusalem for hundreds of years and are being killed and thrown out by some Khazar jews that have absolutely nothing to do with the land.
 
Probably because you are not good enough to sustain a debate with me, as you're just another fat illiterate american.
 
penalty snot said:
Spoken like someone who's never lived here.



I'm not being ironic. It's perfectly fine for many here. You may not agree with what is fine, but there are faults in everyone's homeland.

I like your example of locals though. Very amusing.
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Faults, sure, but most of tend not to say 'everything is perfectly fine' and we'd certainly be far less inclined to do so if our homelands still had slavery.
 
penalty snot said:
Spoken like someone who's never lived here..
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.. well here speaks someone who did:
Here, we meet Hamdan ... he paid $1,624 (£1,000) to a Pakistani recruiter who told him he would have a job with the UAE's largest construction firm, Arabtec, as "a carpenter in Dubai", earning between $217 and $300 a month. When he arrived in Dubai, he was placed in a vast industrial zone outside the city, where he learned he would be working six days a week on the "museum site" in Abu Dhabi, earning just $160 a month. Arabtec had already taken his passport and he was trapped. His only choice was to work for 10 months – 11 hours a day, with an extra two hours' travel time, to repay the agent before he could start to save anything for his family.

"They cheat us," he says. "I would tell anyone not to come here."
 
Hellboy said:
Well he insulted me first without even debating which shows his ignorance.
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Let's try to solve this problem. If you were in charge, what policy steps would you take to once and for all solve the Israeli-Palestinian situation in a manner that is acceptable to both sides ? Be specific and list why each step would work for both parties.
 
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