Israeli - Palestinian Conflict

That's a load of bollocks. They were living together beforehand, weren't they?

Got to love the myth about the care for the Jews under Muslim rule. I doubt we are going to voluntarily join another experiment, but the treatment of Christians in the Arab world is a solid argument refuting your suggestion.
 



There are so many schools in the Gaza Strip, so Hamas can't avoid using them for launching rockets at Israeli civilians. I guess.
 
We don't need analogies. In 1918 Jews made up less than 12% of the population of the region hence any equitable post-war settlement along the lines of self-determination leads to a Palestinian state.

Jewish presence in the land predates every other tribe of man on the planet today. All the historical tribes who would have an ancestral line as long as the Jewish people in that part of the world are long gone.

You cannot simply declare a landmass "Palestine" and then say the non-Jews there outnumber the Jews, therefore the Jewish people should not have a claim to their ancient home. What's incredibly funny to me in all of this is that Israel was a barren wasteland before the Jews cultivated it into the gem of the middle east and it is only since they have that such a relatively small patch of land has been so fiercely disputed.

The Western world lost the ability to act as a conscience to Israel the moment the Jewish people were turned away by mainland Europe after the war.

All that aside, we're past the point of arguing Israel's existence. Israel exists and as a sovereign nation, she has the right to defend herself from terrorist activity. The appalling thing about this situation is that people want to argue the politics rather than dealing with the truth which is that Hamas is responsible for every dead innocent man, woman and child in Israel and Palestine.

If Israel's surrounding nations put down their arms, there'd be no more war; if Israel put down her arms, there'd be no more Israel. That is how ideologically far apart the two poles are.
 
If the answer to that question was yes there is a place that Israel wont bomb. Where do think all the rockets will be fired from after that became known?
Love that logic. Israel can bomb anything and everything because there might be a terrorist hiding there.
 
Jewish presence in the land predates every other tribe of man on the planet today. All the historical tribes who would have an ancestral line as long as the Jewish people in that part of the world are long gone.

You cannot simply declare a landmass "Palestine" and then say the non-Jews there outnumber the Jews, therefore the Jewish people should not have a claim to their ancient home. What's incredibly funny to me in all of this is that Israel was a barren wasteland before the Jews cultivated it into the gem of the middle east and it is only since they have that such a relatively small patch of land has been so fiercely disputed.

This is definitely how we should choose who gets to live where. Let's ignore the refugees who got kicked out and can't go back to their homes.
 
Jewish presence in the land predates every other tribe of man on the planet today. All the historical tribes who would have an ancestral line as long as the Jewish people in that part of the world are long gone.
And the Jewish people were largely long gone too. That's why self-determination in the region should have led to a Palestinian state. There is no argument unless you don't believe in the principles of self-determination.
 
And the Jewish people were largely long gone too. That's why self-determination in the region should have led to a Palestinian state. There is no argument unless you don't believe in self-determination.

Even if all of the Jewish people were still there and not just a percentage, as the case was, they would still have been outnumbered by the non-Jewish population. Tell me, what percentage of Jewish people had to still be there for Israel to legitimately exist?

And which Palestinian state are you talking about?
 
Are you referring to the Jews who were driven out of Arab countries in 1948 just because of their religion?

I'm referring to the people who lived in the place that this thread is about. Does everything have to be tit for tat?
 
Even if all of the Jewish people were still there and not just a percentage, as the case was, they would still have been outnumbered by the non-Jewish population. Tell me, what percentage of Jewish people had to still be there for Israel to legitimately exist?

And which Palestinian state are you talking about?
The Palestinian state that should have been instituted after the Ottoman empire by a process of self-determination of the people living in the territory. There would need to have been a majority of Jews living in the region for self-determination to have resulted in a Jewish state.
 
Must read.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...hat-helps-israelis-to-hide-facts-9630765.html

By the way @holyland red, you don't have to read it. You won't learn something new, you already know all the tricks.

I read this article earlier, very interesting insight into the manipulative propaganda machine the Israelis put into action. Very clever use of wording to detract the blame from themselves. It's like how occupied territories has been rebranded as 'disputed' territories.
 
I read this article earlier, very interesting insight into the manipulative propaganda machine the Israelis put into action. Very clever use of wording to detract the blame from themselves. It's like how occupied territories has been rebranded as 'disputed' territories.

Rebranded? Who were those disputed territories occupied from?
 
Utterly despicable, what you need to remember is her views don't represent the majority of Israeli opinions.

Absolutely despicable, although you have to bear in mind that she never said these things. The translation is flawed, and is yet another lie in this victimhood campaign by Islamic terrorists.