The article above basically put it quite well - the Israeli political landscape is either pro or anti Netanyuhu. The previous government formed the coalition primarily to get him out of power - and this was a coalition all across the spectrum. He’s done the equivalent with far right Israeli parties to get himself back into power.
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LIBERMAN: ISRAEL CAN'T RELY ON GLOBAL BODIES FOR PROTECTION
‘Diplomatic victory’: Palestinians hail UN vote for World Court probe of occupation
Israel said encouraged by lower number of votes in favor of UNGA resolution; measure calls for court to investigate settlements, Jerusalem and 'discriminatory legislation'
https://www.timesofisrael.com/pales...-court-to-weigh-in-on-israeli-occupation/amp/
‘Diplomatic victory’: Palestinians hail UN vote for World Court probe of occupation
Israel said encouraged by lower number of votes in favor of UNGA resolution; measure calls for court to investigate settlements, Jerusalem and 'discriminatory legislation'
https://www.timesofisrael.com/pales...-court-to-weigh-in-on-israeli-occupation/amp/
What's with the "Western" countries and Israel? In a nutshell...LIBERMAN: ISRAEL CAN'T RELY ON GLOBAL BODIES FOR PROTECTION
‘Diplomatic victory’: Palestinians hail UN vote for World Court probe of occupation
Israel said encouraged by lower number of votes in favor of UNGA resolution; measure calls for court to investigate settlements, Jerusalem and 'discriminatory legislation'
https://www.timesofisrael.com/pales...-court-to-weigh-in-on-israeli-occupation/amp/
The oversimplified answer to your question is that the Jewish Zionist & Christian Zionist & pro-Israeli lobby holds a lot of power and political swathe in the US. And the US and Israel are political bedfellows. So essentially they (US) set the tone for the other ‘Western’ nations such as the UK, Canada, Aussies etc. Germany are pro-Israel for obvious reasons.
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Because we are a bunch of shameless, hypocritical cowards (except for Ireland, it would seem, but they have their moments too)..
Jeez. Thanks for the explanation. I thought this might be it, but I couldn't bring myself to outright believe it.
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Well, for all their goody two shoes Canada are quite the cnuts!
It genuinely, at its deepest core, comes down to religious fundamentalism. At its root core, although money and business glosses over it, there are hard core Christian fundamentalists in the USA who believe that certain things will only happen with Israel as the home to Jews and certain other things in Jerusalem. How long these beliefs have existed I don’t know.
These people have long had powerful positions in US politics
Wasn't it just a couple of weeks ago they killed a young girls looking for a cat on a roof?
Yes - that’s true. And it was only a few months ago they killed a Palestinian-American journalist with a journalist vest on. I mean, the comment by Blake is complete obfuscation but it’s par for the course with this lot. They can’t ever admit their own depraved behaviour so they shove it all under the guise of ‘we’re constantly being attacked’.
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Israeli government plan to limit judicial powers sharply criticised
Grave concerns over Netanyahu coalition’s plan to invalidate supreme court decisions with simple majority
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-plans-to-limit-power-of-judiciary-condemned
Levin said the changes were necessary because the judiciary was overly active, “interfering” in government decision-making and Knesset legislation, bringing public trust to an all-time low, crippling the government’s ability to govern and inflicting a major blow to democracy. “We go the ballot box and vote but time after time people we didn’t elect make the decisions for us,” he said.
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It is like the same people are running the same campaigns in the UK and Israel.
Grave concerns over Netanyahu coalition’s plan to invalidate supreme court decisions with simple majority
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-plans-to-limit-power-of-judiciary-condemned
Levin said the changes were necessary because the judiciary was overly active, “interfering” in government decision-making and Knesset legislation, bringing public trust to an all-time low, crippling the government’s ability to govern and inflicting a major blow to democracy. “We go the ballot box and vote but time after time people we didn’t elect make the decisions for us,” he said.
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It is like the same people are running the same campaigns in the UK and Israel.
Harvard blocks role for former Human Rights Watch head over Israel criticism
Kennedy School allegedly bowed to donors unhappy with organisation accusing Israel of apartheid in occupied territories
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...ks-role-former-head-human-rights-watch-israel
Kennedy School allegedly bowed to donors unhappy with organisation accusing Israel of apartheid in occupied territories
https://www.theguardian.com/educati...ks-role-former-head-human-rights-watch-israel
That's ok. We already know what America and the educational establishment has become.
Palestine’s FA asks FIFA to probe reported Israeli killing of footballer
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2220451/amp
- Local footballer Ahmed Daraghmeh, 23, played for West Bank Premier League team Thaqafi Tulkarm
- “Palestinian football has been grieved by the assassination of one of its top footballers,” PFA told Arab News in a statement
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2220451/amp
Israel security minister bans Palestinian flag-flying in public
Itamar Ben-Gvir’s order follows series of punitive steps against Palestinians since Israel’s hardline government took office
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...nister-bans-palestinian-flag-flying-in-public
Itamar Ben-Gvir’s order follows series of punitive steps against Palestinians since Israel’s hardline government took office
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...nister-bans-palestinian-flag-flying-in-public
Only ends in one way it seems, the Palestinian people are driven into the sea.
Or another intifada, which Israel will blame on Palestinians again.
This was mentioned in the article, how does Israel have access to palestinian tax revenues?
Israel collects around 75% of tax revenues on behalf of the PA through a deal agreed in 1994:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxat...earance system,tariffs on Palestinian imports.
At some point, as I mentioned before too much anger, the international community should find some land and gift it to the Palestinians, so they can be resettled. I cannot see any other way tbh, I just don't see Israel relenting in their quest to expunge them.
But not in the West Bank and Gaza? So essentially force another country to give them a country inside? Where have we seen that before
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I mean, the question to ask is how long to you want these people to suffer? It's not going to end. Stop the suffering, just give them the Isle of Wight.But not in the West Bank and Gaza? So essentially force another country to give them a country inside? Where have we seen that before
Well maybe the international community in large should stop supporting them in this quest and force Israel to give Palestinians their land back.
The international community have no say in the matter. Its strictly down to the two players and Israel's primary benefactor (the US) and possibly a regional intermediary like Egypt.
They don’t want the Isle of Wight.
Do you mean they shouldn't or just that the reality is they don't/won't?
Of course they do, they choose not to.
Anyone can try to encourage change, that's perfectly fine. But the only ones with the ability to drive any meaningful change are the ones I listed.
The international community is impotent given that Israeli power is undergirded by US support, and more broadly, the issue of Palestine/Israel isn't even remotely on the radar for most countries, who are already bogged down in managing their own affairs.
It's not on their radar, true, that's why they don't do anything. If they cared, they could do something. They paint themselves as impotent because it's a convenient way to justify not moving a finger.
Its mainly because they are powerless and the issue isn't important to them, just as the Rohyingas, Uyghurs, refugee crises in places like the DRC, Central African Republic, Sudan, and elsewhere aren't.
I agree with the second part, but the world isn't powerless in any of those issues, they just don't care. That's my only point here.
If the world, except the US, decided to boycott israel, things would change in a heartbeat.
They’ve been through enough.