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It's not the same. Ukraine was invaded this year (2014 in Crimea too), this has been going on, since when, the forties? I don't think it is insulting to say that if you're being treated as third-class citizens and literally driven to the ocean, a different solution is perhaps considered to alleviate the horror, rather than - "keep being treated badly but hoping Israel/USA is going to change".

Of course, this isn't morally right but something will have to be done at some point.
The timeline is a secondary point. The primary point is why they should be forced to move from their own land due to oppressive occupiers. The fact of the matter is they shouldn’t give up their land. Thousands of Palestinians were rendered stateless during the Nakba and haven’t been allowed to return to their home. Even now in neighbourhoods in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, they are being ethnically cleansed. The wider world should be putting a stop to it rather than turning a blind eye to it all.
 
The timeline is a secondary point. The primary point is why they should be forced to move from their own land due to oppressive occupiers. The fact of the matter is they shouldn’t give up their land. Thousands of Palestinians were rendered stateless during the Nakba and haven’t been allowed to return to their home. Even now in neighbourhoods in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, they are being ethnically cleansed. The wider world should be putting a stop to it rather than turning a blind eye to it all.
I totally agree. In my mind it's a question of, waiting and seeing a population being destroyed or doing something about it, like mass repatriation.
 
How many more decades does Israel want to act like this? What is the endgame here?
They will rule over Israel and West Jordan. There will be spots or enclaves where mostly Palestinians will live.
 
US to open investigation into Shireen Abu Akleh killing: Reports
Multiple Israeli news outlets say US authorities informed Israel that they will probe Al Jazeera journalist’s killing.


The United States has informed the Israeli authorities that it decided to open its own investigation into the killing of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, several Israeli and US media outlets reported, citing unidentified sources.

According to a report by Axios on Monday, the US Justice Department informed its counterpart in Israel that the FBI is opening a probe into the incident.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022...gation-into-shireen-abu-akleh-killing-reports

If this is legit, then about bloody time! Justice for Shireen.
 
US to open investigation into Shireen Abu Akleh killing: Reports
Multiple Israeli news outlets say US authorities informed Israel that they will probe Al Jazeera journalist’s killing.


The United States has informed the Israeli authorities that it decided to open its own investigation into the killing of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, several Israeli and US media outlets reported, citing unidentified sources.

According to a report by Axios on Monday, the US Justice Department informed its counterpart in Israel that the FBI is opening a probe into the incident.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022...gation-into-shireen-abu-akleh-killing-reports

If this is legit, then about bloody time! Justice for Shireen.
Statement from the family:

 
US: oh well, we tried. You saw, right? We tried. Not much we would have done even if we found them guilty of anything so this is best for everyone really. Have a nice day.
 
Israeli forces kill Palestinian student ‘on his way to school’
Mahmoud al-Saadi, 18, was killed by the Israeli army on his way to school from the Jenin refugee camp, Palestinians say

Ramallah, Occupied West Bank – A Palestinian high-school student has been shot dead while he was reportedly on his way to school, during a raid by Israeli forces on the northern occupied West Bank city of Jenin.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...young-palestinian-man-in-occupied-west-bank-2
 
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Autistic Palestinian teen's killing casts spotlight on Israel tactics


Fulla Masalmeh was buried on her 16th birthday in a grave sealed with cement and marked by a single bunch of flowers.
Her family had planned a party that day, but instead said goodbye to their "wonderful and beautiful" daughter who had lived with the challenges of autism and an upbringing in poverty.

A day earlier, Fulla was killed by Israeli soldiers who fired multiple shots at the car she was in.
The army said the vehicle, driven by a 26-year-old Palestinian man, did not heed calls to stop and sped towards them - an account rejected by eyewitnesses and Fulla's family. The army later said the driver was found to be drunk.

The case has thrown a fresh spotlight on Israel's use of lethal force in what the United Nations (UN) says is the deadliest year for Palestinians in the occupied West Bank since 2005, following a series of deadly Palestinian attacks against Israelis.

The UN's envoy to the region, Tor Wennesland, said he was "appalled" by her death and called for an immediate and thorough investigation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-63660568
 
Israeli forces kill Palestinian student ‘on his way to school’
Mahmoud al-Saadi, 18, was killed by the Israeli army on his way to school from the Jenin refugee camp, Palestinians say

Ramallah, Occupied West Bank – A Palestinian high-school student has been shot dead while he was reportedly on his way to school, during a raid by Israeli forces on the northern occupied West Bank city of Jenin.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...young-palestinian-man-in-occupied-west-bank-2
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Autistic Palestinian teen's killing casts spotlight on Israel tactics


Fulla Masalmeh was buried on her 16th birthday in a grave sealed with cement and marked by a single bunch of flowers.
Her family had planned a party that day, but instead said goodbye to their "wonderful and beautiful" daughter who had lived with the challenges of autism and an upbringing in poverty.

A day earlier, Fulla was killed by Israeli soldiers who fired multiple shots at the car she was in.
The army said the vehicle, driven by a 26-year-old Palestinian man, did not heed calls to stop and sped towards them - an account rejected by eyewitnesses and Fulla's family. The army later said the driver was found to be drunk.

The case has thrown a fresh spotlight on Israel's use of lethal force in what the United Nations (UN) says is the deadliest year for Palestinians in the occupied West Bank since 2005, following a series of deadly Palestinian attacks against Israelis.

The UN's envoy to the region, Tor Wennesland, said he was "appalled" by her death and called for an immediate and thorough investigation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-63660568
1 boy killed and 15 wounded in Palestinian terrorist attack at bus stops.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-63726676

What a waste of life…on one side the military and police go about murdering children and the other side some guy who no doubt has a grievance goes and murders some others. It wont end.
 


worth watching the video.

this is what a settler colonial project will look like, as long as the settlement is not complete.
 


worth watching the video.

this is what a settler colonial project will look like, as long as the settlement is not complete.

Why would Arabs go to Russia?
 


worth watching the video.

this is what a settler colonial project will look like, as long as the settlement is not complete.

Absolute scum. 'Death to Arabs' - what a charming bunch of cnuts.
 
Absolute scum. 'Death to Arabs' - what a charming bunch of cnuts.

Imagine a CNN reporter being hassled in Egypt by bystanders. Then everyone starts chanting death to Israelis. We'd never hear the end of anti Semitic claims in Western news channels, Twitter, papers. BBC would have their tongues washed, exercised and ready for insertion.
 
Imagine a CNN reporter being hassled in Egypt by bystanders. Then everyone starts chanting death to Israelis. We'd never hear the end of anti Semitic claims in Western news channels, Twitter, papers. BBC would have their tongues washed, exercised and ready for insertion.

Exactly
 
Because they couldn't think of anything else to say.

They are uneducated, racist idiots.
Is it also because they don't have good impressions with the Russians? I don't know how they think of the Russians in general.

Just curious.
 
Because they couldn't think of anything else to say.

They are uneducated, racist idiots.
Thanks.

I couldn't get the link, so just randomly thrown out there, maybe because Russia is in the bad books right now too.
 
He is spot on. Basically, we are an Apartheid state, and we want to cement that. But don't call us Apartheid, we'll get angry.

 
Is it also because they don't have good impressions with the Russians? I don't know how they think of the Russians in general.

Just curious.
Thanks.

I couldn't get the link, so just randomly thrown out there, maybe because Russia is in the bad books right now too.

I'm actually not sure what they've got with Russia. Maybe they are just used to saying that to Russia-born Israelis, being racist idiots and all that.
 


















Lovely bunch of people in this new government. Far right Zionist cnuts.
 
Imagine a CNN reporter being hassled in Egypt by bystanders. Then everyone starts chanting death to Israelis. We'd never hear the end of anti Semitic claims in Western news channels, Twitter, papers. BBC would have their tongues washed, exercised and ready for insertion.
Oh without a doubt.
 
Imagine a CNN reporter being hassled in Egypt by bystanders. Then everyone starts chanting death to Israelis. We'd never hear the end of anti Semitic claims in Western news channels, Twitter, papers. BBC would have their tongues washed, exercised and ready for insertion.

Yup. But the same people who would be seething if that were the case will turn a blind eye to this.
 



This morning, 23 November 2022, at around 9:00 A.M., Israel demolished a primary school built in the Palestinian community of Khirbet a-Safai al-Foqa in Masafer Yatta, in the part of the South Hebron Hills the military declared Firing Zone 918. The forces removed the tables and chairs from the classrooms and confiscated them. The demolition was greenlighted by Supreme Court Justice Isaac Amit, who cancelled the temporary order he issued yesterday freezing the demolition.

The school, financed by donations, was built about three weeks ago. Three teachers taught the 23 pupils, who are in 1st to 4th grade and come from the communities of a-Safai al-Foqa, a-Safai a-Tahta, and Maghayir al-‘Abid. The school was planned to extend in future through the 9th grade. Until it was established, the children attended school in the community of Khirbet al-Fakhit. However, recent months saw constant harassment by soldiers, including detaining children and teachers at checkpoints and confiscating the latter’s cars. The new school was meant to enable the children to study undisturbed.

https://www.btselem.org/video/20221...effort_to_drive_palestinians_out_of_area#full
 
Imagine a CNN reporter being hassled in Egypt by bystanders. Then everyone starts chanting death to Israelis. We'd never hear the end of anti Semitic claims in Western news channels, Twitter, papers. BBC would have their tongues washed, exercised and ready for insertion.

Why imagine? There are so many complaints by israeli journalists who are in Qatar right now for the World Cup about locals or football fans from the Arab world who have shown disdain towards them.
 
It's like I'm reading any US police department statement after a white cop has beaten/strangled/shot a black guy/boy/woman/girl.
 
Why imagine? There are so many complaints by israeli journalists who are in Qatar right now for the World Cup about locals or football fans from the Arab world who have shown disdain towards them.
To be fair - from the videos I’ve seen it’s been Israeli news reporters trying to interview fans and the fans ask which channel or where they’re from. It’s when they say that they’re Israeli the fans walk away from the interview. I’ve not seen one video where they’ve chanted anything anti-Semitic or even anti-Israeli. Most of the time they’ve either walked away (not engaging at all with an Israeli news channel) or chanting for Palestine.
 
To be fair - from the videos I’ve seen it’s been Israeli news reporters trying to interview fans and the fans ask which channel or where they’re from. It’s when they say that they’re Israeli the fans walk away from the interview. I’ve not seen one video where they’ve chanted anything anti-Semitic or even anti-Israeli. Most of the time they’ve either walked away (not engaging at all with an Israeli news channel) or chanting for Palestine.

Mostly, but you must understand that the weak, soft hearts of Israelis can't handle chants for Palestine.