Why don't you prove that you are right and I'll retract my comment
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The Late 90s was the closest era to get some better situation (in my lifetime at least) but the hardliners at Likud facilitated the rise of Hamas because it suited their own personal political gains. Plus, it was Likud's far-right rhetoric that inspired the assassin of Rabin who, along with Peres, were really the most rational leaders of Israel in the last 25 years. Netanyahu, on the other hand, is a truly horrible human being, who deserves no sympathy or respect.
I'm challenging your designation of Gaza containing military infrastructure, given that a military is associated with a sovereign state, and engagements between militaries are governed by international law.
Hamas strategy of putting civilians in the line of danger in order to gain international sympathy is no secret to be honest. As for literally killing their own children I doubt it.
Children are civilians too.
Scum. Taking pot shots at an enemy that can’t move or fight back and then having children sign the f**king rockets. It’s too much. My heart.
Scum. Taking pot shots at an enemy that can’t move or fight back and then having children sign the f**king rockets. It’s too much. My heart.
If you can't fight back then don't start a fight.
My family are sleeping in air raid shelters in Tel Aviv.
The Palestinians who get evicted from their homes started it?
I was referring to the current situation and children specifically. Do you have any proof from a non Israeli source ?
Obviously they dared to exist.
I get your point, but to say that all military engagements are governed by international law is a bit specious.
If weapons are delivered from a certain location, what specific law restricts another entity from retaliating? When is that ever enforced, especially when it is still a very limited engagement as this particular flare up is?
@Raoul brought up the construction of rockets in Gaza. Is eliminating such forbidden by international law? I honestly don’t know the granular details of such, but to try to eliminate an element of that infrastructure will be a right asserted by either side of the equation.
The audacity is shameful.Fight back? Are you for real? Your whole country is basically a state of the art military base. Their whole country is a concentration camp controlled by your army base. Most of the recent aggression and major crimes in my lifetime have been in the name of Israeli freedom when you guys are already free. You’ve looted, ransacked and segregated the region You've already won the “fight”. This is just bullshit theft and bullying. The Zionist’s love a bit of theft when their enemy is almost totally defenceless. Israel and their supporters are a disgrace.
Well i meant literally executing them, but i guess there are some scenarios where it isnt much different.
Terrible conditions. My heart bleeds.
Man that sucks
children murdering can be so tedious you have to move to another room in the house.We laugh at the Trumper-like Fearless but it's depressing the world sees the Palestinians through his eyes.
International law wouldn't really come into play since nothing would be enforceable if the US wasn't on board.
On the rockets; I found this piece interesting.
That video has nothing to do with Palestinians being evicted from their homes today.
They aren't?
The US didn't get pulled up over the use of white phosphorus in Iraq, because the UN is spineless. However it was a violation.
You're trying to isolate the issue of sending rockets back and forth. If this was a war between two sovereign powers (e.g. Israel and Egypt), then sure. But applying such logic here bypasses the fact that Israel maintains Gaza as an open air prison and subjects it's occupants to violence on a daily basis. You say that Israel should be able to retaliate based on missiles being fired into it's territory. Shouldn't Palestinians be able to retaliate based on the violence they are subject to every day living in Gaza and the West Bank (not for long)?
I know many people label it as such, but this is not a complicated issue, at all.
@Spoony is spot on, how is this guy not banned already?
IDF are killing the kids, not Hamas. And the pretence isn't exactly water tight is it? "We have intelligence of" is about as "Saddam has WMDs" as it gets.
Of course it does, and I can fully get why you want history to begin last week.
Palestinians became refugees NOT because they didn't have a state. REVERSE is true: In REFUSING their own state, AND in opening war to prevent Jewish people from having theirs, and in multiple losing wars, they became refugees. 70 years later, they still prefer being refugees over a state.
We laugh at the Trumper-like Fearless but it's depressing the world sees the Palestinians through his eyes.
The world see the Palestinians with far more sympathy imo.
Hamas have already claimed the life of Israeli children this week. Perhaps you'd be happy if Iron Dome didn't exist.
What is wrong with you? Are you being paid by the Israeli government to spout such nonsensical shit?
What's wrong with what he posted? I don't see the people of Palestine rising against hamas who uses them as human shields and launches rockets from their houses.
Can only speak for Germany, where criticising Israel is always stepping on thin ice, but there's a lot of support for Palestinians.
That's an interesting question that can only be answered with several others but if we assume that Gaza is a sovereign territory and that there isn't an international embargo on Gaza then the answer to your question is yes, it is forbidden. It's effectively an act of war.
Oh no, yet another half truth from the Zionists is being exposed. Careful bro, you'll be labelled an anti-Semite...
You're a paid troll or you live in Israel and are shit scared that your web activity is monitored, can't be another explanation
Germany is between a rock and a hard place on that issue, to be fair.
Well, you kind of made my point.They aren't?
The US didn't get pulled up over the use of white phosphorus in Iraq, because the UN is spineless. However it was a violation.
You're trying to isolate the issue of sending rockets back and forth. If this was a war between two sovereign powers (e.g. Israel and Egypt), then sure. But applying such logic here bypasses the fact that Israel maintains Gaza as an open air prison and subjects it's occupants to violence on a daily basis. You say that Israel should be able to retaliate based on missiles being fired into it's territory. Shouldn't Palestinians be able to retaliate based on the violence they are subject to every day living in Gaza and the West Bank (not for long)?
I know many people label it as such, but this is not a complicated issue, at all.
This isn’t a legally defined military engagement, it’s quite asymmetrical. Terror is being used by both aides as a weapon. There’s rationalization by both sides for such.
I’ve said in previous posts that I understand why the Palestinians / Hamas are employing their rocket tactics & I largely condone it. They’re using their most effective tactic they currently have. I can’t begrudge them for that.
But, when such tactics are used, there will always be unfortunate consequences. I could use ‘inevitable’ again here, but the unfortunate consequences are to be expected. That’s the terrible reality.
None of these tactical decisions exist in a vacuum & the disappointing part is that civilians get harmed.
Be careful Giggs86. They'll accuse you of the usual cack.