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[Denis79]

In countries that caused the Holocaust it's an outside opinion. You're constantly getting branded as antisemitic by fecking racists for calling it a Genocide while you could make a fair point, that it's an old antisemitic pattern to equate jews with the Israeli government.

There are good people everywhere, the same applies to Israeli, but it's important to note that this government did not come to power through force. The mistreatment of Arab civilians has been an ongoing issue, predating Netanyahu's leadership. Similarly, the establishment of illegal settlements began long before the current government. UN reports have labeled these actions as apartheid, illegal, and inhumane for many years, highlighting something long-standing.
I am Serbian, and during our civil war, we committed some truly horrible acts. When Western news outlets reported, "Serbs / Serbia did this or that," I never found it offensive, because it was true. I understand exactly who they are referring to when they say "Serbia or Serbs" The same applies to many conflicts, it's not "Nixon did this in Vietnam" but America did this and that, this list goes on and on.

Being instantly labeled an anti-Semite for simply criticizing Israel is a problem that needs to be addressed and I feel is a tool used, by those same racists you are talking about to quickly derail any discussion.

 

[ArbeitervonWien]

There are good people everywhere, the same applies to Israeli, but it's important to note that this government did not come to power through force. The mistreatment of Arab civilians has been an ongoing issue, predating Netanyahu's leadership. Similarly, the establishment of illegal settlements began long before the current government. UN reports have labeled these actions as apartheid, illegal, and inhumane for many years, highlighting something long-standing.
I am Serbian, and during our civil war, we committed some truly horrible acts. When Western news outlets reported, "Serbs / Serbia did this or that," I never found it offensive, because it was true. I understand exactly who they are referring to when they say "Serbia or Serbs" The same applies to many conflicts, it's not "Nixon did this in Vietnam" but America did this and that, this list goes on and on.

Being instantly labeled an anti-Semite for simply criticizing Israel is a problem that needs to be addressed and I feel is a tool used, by those same racists you are talking about to quickly close an argument.

Though you had more reason to be offended when "the Serbs" were generally labeled as war criminals, than when you state that the Israeli government or Netanjahu etc are committing a war crime. It's quite clear that you not talking about jews in general.

I think it's not only a tool to close an argument. It's explicitly used by racists and imperialists to drive their agenda on the back of a broad consensus that antisemitism is not tolerated. And they are taking full advantage of the fact, that we as descandants of the Nazis have an awkward relationship with Israel and are feeling it's our historical risponsability to unconditionally stand with Israel.

 

[Idxomer]

If a ceasefire happens then it really highlights how evil the Biden and democrats have been on this

Biden is the biggest non-Jewish zionist ever. His racism towards Arabs and Palestinians is unmatched. Nothing happened in the last 15 months would've been possible without him. The US has the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on their hands because of him.

That said as usual with Israel, I would wait for the ceasefire to be announced and to be implemented more importantly.

 

[Idxomer]

 

[VorZakone]

 

[2mufc0]

Biden is the biggest non-Jewish zionist ever. His racism towards Arabs and Palestinians is unmatched. Nothing happened in the last 15 months would've been possible without him. The US has the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on their hands because of him.

That said as usual with Israel, I would wait for the ceasefire to be announced and to be implemented more importantly.

He's an awful human being no doubt, the fact that he's worse than Trump on this issue speaks volumes.

 

[2mufc0]

Rumours a ceasefire is about to happen.great timing, one week before the inauguration.

Big win for Trump, particularly for his image outside of the US if this happens.

 

[Idxomer]

Still killing children, doctors, journalists and burning people alive.

 

[Sweet Square]

 

[Amir]

He's an awful human being no doubt, the fact that he's worse than Trump on this issue speaks volumes.

I'm not sure about this. For whatever reason - settlements? - Netanyahu may simply be willing to do things for Trump that he wouldn't with Biden in charge.

 

[crappycraperson]

If this is true and is proven by a ceasefire after Trump takes office, would the Dems who were bashing Muslims for either abstaining or voting for Trump acknowledge they were wrong.