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At least 82 have been killed since they announced the ceasefire deal.
Their bloodlust knows no bounds.
Their bloodlust knows no bounds.
I wonder if Trump isn't offering them the part of Syria they rushed to occupy as an alternative to the occupation of Gaza and whatever happens qua the West Bank. Trump will not want this to fall apart. It's now a legacy thing (his name has been put to it so he'll apply pressure on Israel in all sorts of ways you might not have seen others do). He wants to move on to Ukraine (and also other things in the Middle East which require a lasting ceasefire here).
Probably correct.It seems Trump was holding a stick rather than a carrot when he forced Netanyahu to agree. I don't think this was about offering anything.
Most of the noise from Israel is that the stalling is either due to Netanyahu, Smoetrich or both. So far it looks like usual Israeli shenanigans but the deal is still in place.Oh look Israel doing a U-turn yet again and blaming Hamas. Let's see if Trump has the influence he claims and stops the constant stalling from Israel.
Hard line Israeli ministers who have threatened to quit the government want assurances that the war will resume in six weeks time after phase one of the deal.
Israeli Broadcasting Corporation: Sources familiar with the negotiations say that any commitment by Netanyahu to his political partners to return to fighting in Gaza after the first phase is a violation of the agreement.BBC live blog has this from one of their reporters
So is this just another temporary ceasefire?
Portuguese media treated it like "Hitler is dead, peace in Europe!"Same ceasefire bullshit happened when Obama was inaugurated. It resumed 6 weeks later.
Let’s see if they make it that far this time.
All the media outlets fawning over this ceasefire have very short memories - pathetic really
BBC live blog has this from one of their reporters
So is this just another temporary ceasefire?
Netanyahu will suddenly sign it after all when Trump takes office and after weapons deals were signed without involving federal contracts. In sure some of our private merc units would love to use Israel as a "training ground".Oh look Israel doing a U-turn yet again and blaming Hamas. Let's see if Trump has the influence he claims and stops the constant stalling from Israel.
At least 82 have been killed since they announced the ceasefire deal.
Their bloodlust knows no bounds.
Historically fascists rarely stop, they need to be stopped.Israel and it seems most Israelis don't want peace, they want blood. I am convinced that even if Israel took all the land and expelled all Palestinians, they wouldn’t stop. Their bloodthirst would just spread to neighboring countries. Killing lesser people (as they see them) is just a political tool to be used to win elections, gain popularity.
Ben Gvir resigned from the government.
It is when the reporters (all of whom except for Palestinian, most of which were murdered) enter that the true scale of the destruction and proper deathcounts will be told. The Lancet had a figure of 200k. I think it's arguably around 100-150k dead. It definitely is not the 40k figure which has remained the same for many months because there is no internal counting mechanism left.
Could be talking about the systematic murder of 10%~ of an entire population.
Only well to find out is excess deaths but that in itself is incredibly difficult to calculateI think it will be well over 200k with famine and disease. Over 300k, but obviously without any proof
Only well to find out is excess deaths but that in itself is incredibly difficult to calculate
Similar. Granted there was only one in our university group. But shockingly a German mentor of mine (and tbh the person who built my career) also went the same wayWell, we have one good outcome from all this clusterfeck at least.
Following this thread and the war in general has been an absolute miserable experience, and my Israeli friends went from moderate, sympathetic and normal people to absolute right wing extremists in a matter of less than a year to a point where I cannot even have a conversation anymore.
This is going to be horrific and people will have to deal with the knowledge that they went about life as normal as this happenedIt is when the reporters (all of whom except for Palestinian, most of which were murdered) enter that the true scale of the destruction and proper deathcounts will be told. The Lancet had a figure of 200k. I think it's arguably around 100-150k dead. It definitely is not the 40k figure which has remained the same for many months because there is no internal counting mechanism left.
Could be talking about the systematic murder of 10%~ of an entire population.
That’s exactly it. It’s an incredibly fecked up society.Israel and it seems most Israelis don't want peace, they want blood. I am convinced that even if Israel took all the land and expelled all Palestinians, they wouldn’t stop. Their bloodthirst would just spread to neighboring countries. Killing lesser people (as they see them) is just a political tool to be used to win elections, gain popularity.
Does anyone really believe there will be peace? Israel will be back in there bombing within a couple of weeks blaming increased numbers of terrorists that need eliminating and they are sorry that 100 civilians were also eliminated in the process.
https://thecradle.co/articles/israe...isoners-seeks-to-block-public-displays-of-joyIsrael prepares to free hundreds of Palestinian prisoners, seeks to block 'public displays of joy'
1,700 Palestinians held captive in Israeli prisons and 33 Israelis held captive in Gaza are set to be released in phases starting Sunday
American Historical Association resolution condemns Israeli scholasticide in Gaza
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ameri...ution-condemns-israels-scholasticide-in-gaza/
There's no way in hell this "cease-fire" is going to last. No way.Does anyone really believe there will be peace? Israel will be back in there bombing within a couple of weeks blaming increased numbers of terrorists that need eliminating and they are sorry that 100 civilians were also eliminated in the process.
There's no way in hell this "cease-fire" is going to last. No way.
I doubt that it will even hold the six weeks of the first phase. Israel will break it the moment it deems enough hostages have made it back. It doesn't even have to be all of them.