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[Giggsyking]

IDF is invading Rafah.

Watching breaking news at work.

Praying for the millions of innocent civilians.

 

[The Corinthian]

Organ harvesting like the Nazis.

 

[VorZakone]

 

[VorZakone]

 

[africanspur]

That's hardly news...

I think it's hardly news to you or me.

It does still seem however to be news to some on here, who will blame any lack of ceasefire deal on Hamas solely, even as Netanyahu repeatedly says he is going into Rafah, deal or no deal and global indignation or not.

 

[africanspur]

I'm struggling to make this make sense in my head when they've said repeatedly they're going into Rafah regardless of any deal?

 

[VorZakone]

I'm struggling to make this make sense in my head when they've said repeatedly they're going into Rafah regardless of any deal?

Did they really say that though? I don't quite recall it that way.

Mehdi Hasan criticized Israel for walking back its argument that the war will stop if the hostages are released. Then Eylon Levy said "no no, we were always clear that we'd continue the war regardless".

 

[4bars]

I'm struggling to make this make sense in my head when they've said repeatedly they're going into Rafah regardless of any deal?

You lie more than israel. You didnt struggle a second

 

[4bars]

Did they really say that though? I don't quite recall it that way.

Mehdi Hasan criticized Israel for walking back its argument that the war will stop if the hostages are released. Then Eylon Levy said "no no, we were always clear that we'd continue the war regardless".

Netanyahu vows to invade Rafah ‘with or without a deal’ as cease-fire talks with Hamas continue

 

[VorZakone]

Netanyahu vows to invade Rafah ‘with or without a deal’ as cease-fire talks with Hamas continue

Right. But was that their official position all along in the last months?

 

[4bars]

Right. But was that their official position all along in the last months?

Well, ben gvir said before that netanyahu promised that would be no deal, because if so, the coalition was over.

 

[berbatrick]

Whole statement worth reproducing here:


Our just war in Gaza continues with the exact same goals: the release of all hostages and the defeat of Hamas. Yesterday, we received a reminder from the Nazi terrorist organization Hamas, firing from a civilian population near the Rafah Crossing towards the Kerem Shalom Crossing, intended for humanitarian aid. Israel has agreed to significant concessions to bring the hostages home, but Hamas has repeatedly refused. Everyone understands that Sinwar has no intention of releasing all hostages, even in exchange for everything. He believes that the world will pressure Israel to stop the war unconditionally, and he will be able to continue to control Gaza - with hostages as bargaining chips and with the ability to continue the attrition war against Israel and plan the next attack. Today, on Holocaust Remembrance Day, the slogan "Never Again" takes on a special meaning. The people of Israel say: "Never again."


https://twitter.com/Israel_katz/status/1787375002280501662

 

[berbatrick]

Right. But was that their official position all along in the last months?

They (both Israel and US) have never offered a "cease-fire" longer than 6 weeks and the logical next step after those 6 weeks is the invasion of Rafah. They have rejected every single permanent offer.
I hope the liquidation of the ghetto is as costly as it can be.

 

[Idxomer]

Al Mawasi has been one of the safe zones where civilians have been attacked repeatedly after they were told to move there.

 

[Idxomer]

 

[Idxomer]

The areas that the occupation is asking us to evacuate and go to are barren, destroyed areas with no water connections and no foundations for life. People are going to live in tragic conditions.

 

[Idxomer]

 

[Jericholyte2]

That would be valid if an Israeli Cabinet member hadn’t dismissed the idea of ‘trading 20 or 30 hostages’ as a waste of their time.

This is nothing more than the ethnic cleansing of a people who’s median age is 18!!!

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Anyone tried telling these childish cnuts to grow up yet?

Bunch of fecking babies

 

[Idxomer]

 

[The Corinthian]

 

[The Corinthian]

 

[VorZakone]

Antony Blinken: we will share our concerns with Israel.

 

[Giggsyking]

 

[RedTiger]

I see the tactic is to continuously repeat the same shit.

 

[Amir]

That would be valid if an Israeli Cabinet member hadn’t dismissed the idea of ‘trading 20 or 30 hostages’ as a waste of their time.

She's a minister but not a Cabinet member.

Still, she's vile and is against stopping the war even if it means all the hostages return.

 

[The Corinthian]

 

[Kaos]

So they ban Al Jazeera right before proceeding to invade Rafah. Can't have any major outlets documenting the massacre that's about to unfold. Look! anti-semitic Jewish protestors in college campuses!

 

[VorZakone]

 

[Idxomer]

 

[Idxomer]

 

[maniak]

Watched a clip of leaflets being dropped on rafah streets filled with children playing around, and you know what comes next... so fecking heartbreaking.

 

[berbatrick]

Not sure how reliable this website/reporting is.

 

[Idxomer]

Hamas told Egypt and Qatar they've accepted the ceasefire proposal.

 

[Idxomer]

It's kind of surreal seeing people and children celebrating in Gaza, and there hasn't even been anything coming out of Israel indicating they also agreed to it.

It shows how desperate these people are.

 

[The Corinthian]

 

[Sweet Square]

 

[Idxomer]

 

[Idxomer]

 

[Idxomer]

To follow, according to a Hamas official, Qatar and Egypt told them that Biden would guarantee the 2nd phase of the ceasefire proposal.