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I keep asking myself. If I was born a Palestinian, what would I be doing?
 
Joint List have nominated Gantz. Pretty huge news. Lieberman declining to nominate anyone.



Aymen Odeh determined to make his mark.
 
These were the Joint List’s demands. You’d have to assume Gantz has agreed to at least some of them:

 
Only previous occasion Arab parties nominated was 1992 with Rabin, and that was with the hope of Oslo in the air. Quite a job by Netanyahu to get them to step up again.
 
Looks like a third round of elections since Lieberman will only support a unity government which Gantz and Netanyahu can’t agree on. Expect Netanyahu to be indicted before then.
 
Third round of elections on the way!
 
I can't believe Likud are going to allow him lead them into another round of elections.
 
Adisa said:
I can't believe Likud are going to allow him lead them into another round of elections.
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If this polling persists closer to the time, we may see a move against him:

 
Israeli “Democracy” in Two Court Cases
BYDOUGLAS GERRARD

On July 20, 2019, Benjamin Netanyahu became Israel’s longest-serving prime minister, surpassing the country’s founding father, David Ben-Gurion. By any measure, this was a monumental feat, though Netanyahu wasn’t in the mood to celebrate. He had a September election to focus on, having been thwarted in his efforts to form a government five months earlier by his old friend Avigdor Lieberman. He also had a set of corruption indictments hanging over his head like a sword of Damocles.

Those indictments have now been filed, closing the first chapter on a three-year process that has implicated family members and colleagues, and exposed incestuous complicity between Israel’s politicians and its press. Netanyahu is charged in three cases that span decades, incriminating him at various points of his political career. Two involve him colluding with Israeli news outlets, promising to either damage their rivals or pay them millions of shekels in return for more favorable coverage. The other is more prosaic: it is alleged that Netanyahu intervened to extend the US visa of Arnon Milchan, an Israeli billionaire, and perform a similar, unnamed favor for the Australian billionaire James Packer. And for these crimes, for which he might serve time in Maasiyahu Prison, Netanyahu received champagne, cigars, and $3,000 worth of jewelry for his wife, Sara.

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The man who delivered Netanyahu’s indictment, attorney general Avichai Mandelblit, could hardly present a starker contrast with the prime minister. As well as being an austere and soft-spoken Orthodox Jew, Mandelblit is almost puritanical when it comes to the law. “Law enforcement is not a choice,” he told the press when making his announcement. “It is not a matter of right or left. It’s not a matter of politics.” Ideologically a Likudnik, he possesses qualities that bring liberals out in hot flashes: a stubborn commitment to democratic norms, principles that transcend party loyalty, and an obsession with the intricacies of the Israeli legal system.
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Mandelblit himself has been intimately involved in steering Israel toward its current autocratic moment: while serving as chief military advocate during Operation Cast Lead, he approved the bombing of a Gazan police academy and then skillfully defended Israel against charges of war crimes after the conflict had ended. This mastery of the law impressed Netanyahu, who tapped Mandelblit to be his cabinet secretary, tasking him with finding retroactive justifications for the seizure of West Bank land.

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Only a few days after Mandelblit announced his indictments, a second long-running court case was concluded, bringing the limits of Israeli democracy into even starker relief. Omar Shakir is still officially the director of Human Rights Watch in Israel-Palestine. Only now he operates from neighboring Jordan, having been deported by Israel following a year-long legal battle. Argue the case online and an Israeli will pop up to defend the decision on the grounds that Shakir had endorsed the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement — what other country would tolerate a threat to its very existence? There is a kernel of truth here: Israel does have regressive anti-BDS laws, and these were employed to refuse the extension of Shakir’s visa. But delve deeper into the case and you discover that what Israel labels “BDS” includes calls to boycott the occupied territories, and that it was this — Shakir’s history of anti-settlement tweets and statements — that was primarily cited in the case for deportation. In other words, Omar Shakir was deported for opposing the occupation, not the state itself.
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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/01/israeli-democracy-palestine-netanyahu-omar-shakir


Thinking about home, the Indian judiciary would vote for the govt in both cases (it would not let a case against the PM proceed this far). And in reference to the first line, Modi needs 2 more wins to overtake Nehru. He'll get to 15 (winning 2024) but the last 3 years might be harder.
 
Palestinian leaders urging all Arab leaders to boycott the new unilateral US peace plan.
 
Giggsyking said:
Palestinian leaders urging all Arab leaders to boycott the new unilateral US peace plan.
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It is not surprising that they are calling for this. It is their future after all. No one can call it a peace plan. And I am sure, the Israelis will not accept it as one man one vote and take over the occupied lands and keep the population. It will be apartheid or they will force the Palestinians to leave Israel.
 
Proposed plans for Palestine and Israel. Why were mainly Israelis present at the White House Middle East Plan announcement? Be surprised if this moves forward.

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adexkola said:
Is an enclave community an Israeli settlement?
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Yes as far as I can tell. Doesn’t seem to include all of them, it’s low resolution but I don’t think Ariel, the largest disconnected settlement or ‘enclave’, is included.
 
Pretty much everyone except Israelis and now the US have said the settlements are illegal. Now they want to legitimize them.

The proposed Palestinian state is too broken up to be viable, imo.
It would lead to even more annexation down the line.
 
Worth recalling a young Netanyahu’s views on a Palestinian state:



I don’t believe his outlook has changed significantly since 1978. The Palestinian ‘state’ proposed today falls within the limitations on Palestinian ‘autonomy’ outlined by the Likud leadership around that time. In other words it falls short of constituting a viable sovereign state as generally understood and exemplified by 200+ states worldwide.
 
RedPed said:
Proposed plans for Palestine and Israel. Why were mainly Israelis present at the White House Middle East Plan announcement? Be surprised if this moves forward.

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Because fractured borders have worked in the past /s.
 
This plan should be foolproof. Jared has all the qualifications to draw up a plan like this. I mean, he did something with real estate and stuff.
 
Hope the international community shun this stupid plan, how can you make any deal or plan with a biased broker and only with one party present.
 
Contiguous Palestinian state. :lol:

It is significant though that the objective of a contiguous Palestinian state has been recognised by both Israel and the US. It might prove hard to shove that idea back in the box, it's on the table now, at last.
 
From Bernie's FP adviser:

seems like his is going to oppose.

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This will be dead on arrival. Guess Jared as to be seen as doing something.
 
berbatrick said:
From Bernie's FP adviser:

seems like his is going to oppose.

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It might be politically impossible for him right now, but it would be nice to see Sanders be the first to now acknowledge what everyone has known for quite some time - that ‘two states’ will not be happening - and openly consider the implications of this for everybody involved.
 
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