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Reminds me of Putin, clearly a cold blooded sociopath.
I am sorry, I would not dare debate the issues behind it with you, I don't have the knowledge. But an altercation where there's over fifty deaths on one side and none on the other reeks of a disproproptionate response. It's the same outrageous thing we all scream when "American cop shoots angry unarmed civilian".
The usual suspects waste no time in defending this.
Well if we limit the question to "what means are justified to prevent infiltration from an enemy territory?" then we can for sure have a discussion, because I don't know the answer. My instinct is that Israel has gone well over the top in this case and that less lethal means could have been successfully utilized. But I'm no expert on rules of engagement in cases such as these. It's hard to think of analogous situations.
We can think of this situation though. Israel knows the Palestinians better than anyone. They certainly knew what to expect on this day, they certainly have enough knowledge to know about the level of threat this meant to Israeli lives, and yet, anyway, this was the way they chose to prepare and deal with it.
It's pretty obvious. They want the status quo to remain. They don't want to give citizenship to the Arabs because then demographically they would be severely at risk of being outnumbered within a generation or two. They don't want to acquiesce land to Palestine because they know that East Jerusalem would have to be given up.
They want the Palestinian cause to be perpetually in the rut that it's currently in because either of the alternatives are almost certainly the end of this ethnocentric settler colonial project.
Israeli ambassador to UN defending it on C4 news. 'The blame should be on Hamas...Hamas committing war crimes sending civilians...'
So if there is any involvement of Hamas anywhere in the entire protest then any member of that protest is a legitimate target for Israels snipers?
Harsh to compare a gentle, intelligent species with the orange scum.
Admission of civilian mass murder.
Im sure the frequent and harmful atrocities Isreal has inflicted upon the Palestinians is far too complex for the good people like our selves to comprehend...lol. With regards to the victim mentality, only one nation in my mind has ever benefited from the victim narrative and that isnt the Palestinians.
Not your finest post.
Labour Apologists for Israel have particularly outdone themselves.
European Union main countries should follow, but no chance it can happen.
There'll be a few token murmurs of 'we plead with both sides to show restraint' in their respective parliament and that'll be it. No one is going to risk upsetting the US over dead Palestinians, no matter the number.
They absolutely have the right to protest, but obviously having Hamas - who are still categorized as a terrorist organization by the EU, involved is going to change the dynamics of how such protests are interpreted by the Israelis.
No one gives a flying feck about palestine, not even the arabs. At the end of the day it is upto the citizens of the country under attack to fight there own fight.
The Zionists must be delighted with the day. History proves every oppressor and coloniser will have its day. Not even an acknowledgement of the dead is a serious blemish on the character of those who rejoice these actions.
Those excusing this raw aggression bow your heads in shame.
Those excusing this raw aggression bow your heads in shame.
Whoever is perceived to be involved in the protest , usage of deadly force should be out of the question until there is a reciprocal threat . This really looks like the massacre of the children in SA in the 80s , with the same justification : "But they were throwing rocks".
Hamas and the word terrorism is just a tired narrative and a licence, marketing tool to give a reason to kill.
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Same position taken at the WH press conference.
This wasn't your usual protest or demonstration though. They (israel) were facing tens of thousands of angry rioters who were also egged on by many clerics to encroach the fence. They were unarmed but I doubt they were there to take the israelis out to afternoon tea. It is unfortunate that the israelis had to open fire but with the huge crowds being whipped into a frenzy I feel like they had to defend themselves and their people. I just think it's not as one sided as the media seem to be portraying it.
The leaders of the Arab world are too bothered about their seats of power. Basically, USA bullying (diplomacy). Support us or you're history. Palestinians as with all downtrodden are on their own.
This is not the middle ages and you have several degrees of escalation before shoot to kill.
Or indeed as the climbing toll of the dead and injured portrays it.
If talking about these horrific deaths and injuries . Maybe it would not be a good idea of having a picture of you smiling .
This. No chance indeed as they all get down on their knees and kiss anything that remotely resembles Israeli ass
You want him to change his avatar every time he posts something?
Are you drunk bro?
You realize that's his twitter profile pic right? Welcome to modern civilization!
Hamas haven't been involved in these protests, and despite that Israel have been murdering Palestinians for the past 7 weeks, so what exactly will change if Hamas does get involved?
I wish I was that naive about social media.
Dozens of people dead is still dozens of lives lost regardless of any ‘victim narrative’
At least Bernie is multitasking with a work call while making that statement.
Pray tell how can a bunch of protesters with rocks harm Israel.
For murder, yeah, if that's what you're into.
See, I don’t understand this. One minute Israel is telling Palestinians that Hamas is putting them in danger by approaching the fence. Then, if anyone affiliated with Hamas approaches the fence i.e. they are prepared to put themselves in harms way as well, it’s “See told you! Hamas terrorists are involved.”
Well actually I do understand it. It’s called hasbara.