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I will not take Mad Winger's name in vain
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'Both sides'
Russia are obviously at war yes, not committing state terror. Their entire military industrial complex is setup to support that war.
Their aim is to annex parts of a foreign state. You might find their grinding fires upon fires tactics brutal, but it’s war not terrorism.
Is this a serious post? Do you think the conflict started yesterday?
You can't keep a people oppressed, subjugated and strip them of all human and civil rights and expect them to take it lying down. Israel has killed over 200 Palestinians in 2023 before yesterday's events. Why is it not 'something shit is happening as a consequence of Israel's actions'?
Hamas has... invaded Israel? Just when you thought no act of war could possibly get dumber than Russia's. Although Putin more than likely had some influence in this as well.
'Friendly fire'?There have already been quite a few instances of... when IDF shoots at its own soldiers, again not sure what the term in English actually is.
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gave the final go-ahead last Monday in Beirut
'Friendly fire'?
Anyway, good luck dude! Stay strong.
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25Officers of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps had worked with Hamas since August to devise the air, land and sea incursions—the most significant breach of Israel’s borders since the 1973 Yom Kippur War—those people said.
Details of the operation were refined during several meetings in Beirut attended by IRGC officers and representatives of four Iran-backed militant groups, including Hamas, which holds power in Gaza, and Hezbollah, a Shiite militant group and political faction in Lebanon, they said.
My both sides comment was tongue in cheek in the sense that it really isn't 'both sides'. This isn't a fair fight in any sense of the word.Fair play to them and to you as a person, and to your opinions.
I don't want to turn this thread into me versus you, I have a lot to say about the wrongdoings of my country.
that being said,
I can easily add a video of beheaded Israeli officers' bodies,
or of another soldier that was murdered in gazza from people hitting him with a shovel on the throat until he died.
I'll never do that.
'both sides', as you wrote it using quotes,
have their utter scum of the earth and also sensible people who wish they could all live a happy, carefree life somewhere else around the globe.
Video from tonight’s football match in Tehran. The occupying regime had handed in Palestine flags to attendees as some sort of “celebration”.
Fans are all chanting: “Shove that Palestine flags up your ass!”
That’s after #IraniansStandWithIsrael was trending globally on X with over 85k posts!
never in history has been a country where it’s ruling regime was so at odds with itsacrual Populace
https://x.com/glnoronha/status/1711101913544966265?s=46
My both sides comment was tongue in cheek in the sense that it really isn't 'both sides'. This isn't a fair fight in any sense of the word.
But I do accept that there exists depravity on both sides. However, one of those sides has been under decades of oppression, beaten, stripped of all rights, murdered, maimed and dehumanised for so long. The other hasn't.
I hope you and yours remain safe, and do reach out to someone if the mental strain gets too much.
Has that been geolocated and verified? Extraordinary civil disobedience at this time. Thanks for the video.
I am Iranian, so it’s 100% accurate from todays league match at Acadia Stadium in Tehran
In one sense I don't blame the average Israeli, and in another sense I do.Much appreciated, thanks.
It is astonishing how most of the Israelis see it as a fair or almost fight, it's their fault, we gave them the option to co-exist in 1948 and have their own country next to us (the British partition plan) and they waged war on us so they can get fecked....
[without the 'get fecked' bit, this is what they teach in most high schools. I had to write some of my final exam in History about the 1948 war, which they present to you so one-sidedly that you won't believe it, or maybe you would]
It’s stunning footage. And happy that you’re in Canada, though one day I hope to be able to visit your country. Is there a reason why they have one stand full and the others mostly empty? Are they not scared of repercussions from the regime?
Video from tonight’s football match in Tehran. The occupying regime had handed in Palestine flags to attendees as some sort of “celebration”.
Fans are all chanting: “Shove that Palestine flags up your ass!”
That’s after #IraniansStandWithIsrael was trending globally on X with over 85k posts!
never in history has been a country where it’s ruling regime was so at odds with itsacrual Populace
https://twitter.com/glnoronha/status/1711101913544966265?s=46
“Construction” is the official excuse , they know they are hated by the population. That’s why they had the Persepolis-Al Nassar game in ACL behind closed doors 2 weeks ago too.
me too my friend, I haven’t been back home in over a decade. I’m very positive their days are numbered and this long wait will come to an end soon. Hopefully with a return of constitutional monarchy we had before
the population inside Iran always chant in the favour of old Pahlavi monarchy … even last week when the Sepahan-Al-Ittihad match was postponed due to Soleimani statue at the stadium and Al-Ittihad’s refusal to play unless that monument is removed , the Iranians Fans were throwing rocks at Soleimani’s statue and chanting: “Reza Shah, god bless your soul” and “Iran without a Shah has no accountability.”
“Construction” is the official excuse , they know they are hated by the population. That’s why they had the Persepolis-Al Nassar game in ACL behind closed doors 2 weeks ago too.
me too my friend, I haven’t been back home in over a decade. I’m very positive their days are numbered and this long wait will come to an end soon. Hopefully with a return of constitutional monarchy we had before
the population inside Iran always chant in the favour of old Pahlavi monarchy … even last week when the Sepahan-Al-Ittihad match was postponed due to Soleimani statue at the stadium and Al-Ittihad’s refusal to play unless that monument is removed , the Iranians Fans were throwing rocks at Soleimani’s statue and chanting: “Reza Shah, god bless your soul” and “Iran without a Shah has no accountability.”
Yes, let's go back to the other dictatorship.
Yes, let's go back to the other dictatorship.
Astonishing that the Iranian urban population of all muslim people do not support Hamas' terror, because thanks to the Mullah regime they know better than anyone what kind of people islamist fanatics are. Unlike others living in western capitals enjoying western safety, liberalism and luxury and at the same time justify Islamic barbarism. But it's always like this, people who don't suffer under such regimes are the ones who support them the most. I really hope someday Iranians can free themselves from the Mullahs and go back to the country we saw in 70s photos.
People will claim this wasn't unexpected or random and will be mostly correct but at the same time this will give all the justification Israel needs for years to come.
I don't understand what Hamas thinks it will gain from this.
If your entire knowledge of our history is based on some Wikipedia page or western propaganda (Khomeini was a darling of BBC and the French) , best to just not opine.
luckily, Iranian people have realized what a complete sham and orchestrated disaster 1979 was … and hopefully we will go back to the days where our passport was number 8 globally, we were the most economically thriving nation in M we were the most modern country in Middle East and the only ones with equal rights between men and women. If that’s dictatorship, I’ll take it everyday if the week twice on sundays ! We will determine our faith this time irrespective of what western “Intelligencia” think
anyways back to topic
They put all their eggs in the kidnapping basket.
If Israel will play this the way it always has- by which rescuing kidnapped soldiers a/o civilians is more important than anything Hamas will ask for- then their gamble is a very wise one.
There will be a huge partition within the Israeli public.
Everyone with a personal relationship with those kidnapped will pressurize for an agreement, prisoners for prisoners.
Typically, Israel releases about a 1,000 Palestinian prisoners for 1 Israeli prisoner, if said prisoner is alive.
seeing as they have a couple of dozens of them alive, plus about 100 dead bodies according to reports/rumors,
such a deal, if it takes place, should reach historical scales, and will crown Hamas as winners for decades to come (even if Gaza is flattened. they don't care about their citizens as much)
Other people will say that the annihilation of Hamas is way more important than the lives of a couple of dozens.
my bet is that the lives of the kidnapped ones will be deem too important for Israel to do something in Gaza that was never seen before.