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Smells like apartheid:

Dozens of Palestinian Workers Ordered Off Israeli Bus to Make Room for Jewish Passengers
One of the Jewish passengers impersonated a Transportation Ministry official and forced a new driver to remove the Palestinians, the bus company said in response

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...or-jewish-passengers/00000182-81ca-d8a6-a9c7-
It is apartheid but I don’t like using the term Jewish. I know Israel likes to use that term, and it is a Jewish based country, but it’s racist nature is based on a political ideology that has nothing to do with Judaism.
 
It is apartheid but I don’t like using the term Jewish. I know Israel likes to use that term, and it is a Jewish based country, but it’s racist nature is based on a political ideology that has nothing to do with Judaism.
It’s a muddy area given the fact that Israel have made it that any criticism of Israel is considered antisemitic (ie an attack of Judaism), thus saying that the two are inextricably linked which is nonsense. One can, and should, criticise Israel without making any mention of Judaism. It doesn’t make it antisemitic.

On the article itself, it was in an Jewish ultra orthodox neighbourhood which is why I think Haaretz have gone with that headline (just fyi Haaretz is an Israeli based left leaning news agency).
 
It’s a muddy area given the fact that Israel have made it that any criticism of Israel is considered antisemitic (ie an attack of Judaism), meaning the two are inextricably linked which is nonsense.

On the article itself, it was in an Jewish ultra orthodox neighbourhood which is why I think Haaretz have gone with that headline (just fyi Haaretz is an Israeli based left leaning news agency).
You’re right. About Israel intentionally muddying the waters. I’ve always wondered about Haaretz because they often report more honestly about what’s going on there than many U.K. papers and pretty much all US papers.
 
It is apartheid but I don’t like using the term Jewish. I know Israel likes to use that term, and it is a Jewish based country, but it’s racist nature is based on a political ideology that has nothing to do with Judaism.

Of course it's not a Jewish thing. There are a whole host of large Jewish organisations around the world fighting to stop the political Israeli government/people tainting their peaceful religion. Same way when ordinary Muslims try to protest against (mainly) Middle East Muslim tyrants hiding behind oil money and 'Islamaphobia'. Look at the state of Yemen or the Kurds. :(

Israel is a fast right political Zionist state which has unashamedly adopted apartheid and doesn't give a feck what the world thinks because these far right ideologists also control the narrative.
 
It’s a muddy area given the fact that Israel have made it that any criticism of Israel is considered antisemitic (ie an attack of Judaism), thus saying that the two are inextricably linked which is nonsense. One can, and should, criticise Israel without making any mention of Judaism. It doesn’t make it antisemitic.

On the article itself, it was in an Jewish ultra orthodox neighbourhood which is why I think Haaretz have gone with that headline (just fyi Haaretz is an Israeli based left leaning news agency).

So...

 

Don't reply to me with nothing but an Imgur link or a Youtube link. Either make a coherent point or don't bother.

What does this Youtube link have to do with Palestinians being kicked off a bus to make way for Jewish people?
 
How many brain cells do you need to have to watch that clip and think "epic"?
 
The 'Palestine' Arabs 'former territory' was a backwater of the Ottoman Empire.

Undermining Palestinians' right to live in Israel/Palestine on the grounds of the historical absence of a distinct Palestinian polity is a slippery slope for your side of the argument. There's no archaeological or historical consensus for the existence of Israel as an independent, unified political entity prior to 1948, but I'm sure you'd agree that this shouldn't be used as justification to undermine the right of the Jewish inhabitants of Israel to self-determination.
 
The funny thing about the mythical story of only Jewish people living in what's Israel now is that according to that myth they got that land through committing brutal genocide....and then they have the nerve to be mad at Hamas saying the same so they have their land back.

The truth is obviously that Palestinians living there are ancestors of people who have lived there 3000 years ago, as well as Jewish people. So for one of them to just 'claim' that the land is only theirs because of a 3000 year myth is ridiculous.
 
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The funny thing about the mythical existence of only Jewish people living in what's Israel now is that according to that myth they got that land through committing brutal genocide....and then they have the nerve to be mad at Hamas saying the same about doing it to them so they have the land back.

The truth is obviously that Palestinians living there are ancestors of people who have lived there 3000 years ago, as well as Jewish people. So for one of them to just 'claim' that the land is only theirs because of a 3000 year myth is ridiculous.

As my post said yesterday it’s not an indigenous people problem, it’s a western settler problem.
 
Think there was a Pro-Palestine march in Manchester today.
 


Funny how everything people condemn Russia for doing, Israel itself does.

5 minors killed by alleged misfired Islamic Jihad missile were actually killed by Israeli strike.

This is a tactic they use all the time. Immediate false claim blaming the Palestinians of murdering their own, then after the story “cools off” they admit to being the murderers they really are when less people are tuned in.

The exact same happened when they murdered the journalist Sherine Abu Akle.
 
This is a tactic they use all the time. Immediate false claim blaming the Palestinians of murdering their own, then after the story “cools off” they admit to being the murderers they really are when less people are tuned in.

The exact same happened when they murdered the journalist Sherine Abu Akle.

Remember to point the camera upwards.

 
This is a tactic they use all the time. Immediate false claim blaming the Palestinians of murdering their own, then after the story “cools off” they admit to being the murderers they really are when less people are tuned in.

The exact same happened when they murdered the journalist Sherine Abu Akle.
That’s all Israel is though. A lying racist regime. Why do you think they need to pay people to defend them online? Pathetic behaviour.
 
You wouldn't give a flying toss about the conflict if it was just another inter-Muslim scrap.
Another pathetic response. Deflecting because the truth would force you to accept the reality that the regime you blindly follow is racist and inherently apartheid.
 
Another pathetic response. Deflecting because the truth would force you to accept the reality that the regime you blindly follow is racist and inherently apartheid.

Point still stands. You are a metaphor for the very reason the Palestinians have got absolutely nowhere. And whats so sick about it is that you're happy with that. It gives you definition.

A scapegoat is far more preferable than a solution.......especially for you.
 
Beitar Jerusalem just been voted the most racist club in the world

I take it thats old fkface’s favourite club.
 
Yes, suspended due to financial irregularity: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...ball-club-sold-amid-owners-sex-abuse-scandal/

"An Israeli football club that became a symbol of the country's new friendship with Arab states is being sold off to a French businessman as its embattled owner faces sexual abuse and fraud charges.

Beitar Jerusalem, which counts former prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu among its fans, made headlines in 2020 after an Emirati royal announced plans to become its co-owner and vowed to crack down on racist fans.

But a year on, the arrangement with Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Nahyan has collapsed amid claims of financial misconduct, while its owner Moshe Hogeg is under house arrest after being accused of a series of sex crimes.

Now owned by a Frenchman - Stefan Malul.
 
Yes, suspended due to financial irregularity: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...ball-club-sold-amid-owners-sex-abuse-scandal/

"An Israeli football club that became a symbol of the country's new friendship with Arab states is being sold off to a French businessman as its embattled owner faces sexual abuse and fraud charges.

Beitar Jerusalem, which counts former prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu among its fans, made headlines in 2020 after an Emirati royal announced plans to become its co-owner and vowed to crack down on racist fans.

But a year on, the arrangement with Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Nahyan has collapsed amid claims of financial misconduct, while its owner Moshe Hogeg is under house arrest after being accused of a series of sex crimes.

Now owned by a Frenchman - Stefan Malul.

Thanks for the update.
 
Point still stands. You are a metaphor for the very reason the Palestinians have got absolutely nowhere. And whats so sick about it is that you're happy with that. It gives you definition.

A scapegoat is far more preferable than a solution.......especially for you.
What are you banging on about? You’re misguided and paranoid. A symptom of how Israeli lies and propaganda can literally make a person deluded and on edge. Once you’ve stopped burying your head in the sand let me know.
 
What are you banging on about? You’re misguided and paranoid. A symptom of how Israeli lies and propaganda can literally make a person deluded and on edge. Once you’ve stopped burying your head in the sand let me know.

You will be waiting a long time.
 
What are you banging on about? You’re misguided and paranoid. A symptom of how Israeli lies and propaganda can literally make a person deluded and on edge. Once you’ve stopped burying your head in the sand let me know.
Irreparable damage has been done to the Israeli society and Israel sympathizers. They have lost their humanity and they don’t even know it. You can’t even comprehend the extent of the racism and blood thirst if you’re not living in the region. The vast majority of the Israeli people have become vile. Of course in an apartheid state, once the apartheid is (hopefully one day) dismantled, the people should be given a clean slate, but still it’s extremely aggravating seeing it. The media is a non stop military propaganda machine, and it’s having devastating effects on the masses.