Didn’t realize Dan Bongino was Jewish.
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Ceasefire announced.
Good. Hope it’s durable.
He absolutely hates it when people presume he's African American.
Clearly, no. There are clear violations of IHL by Israel
This was upsetting
Probably had books on nuclear physics.
precedent is maybe even older, but the reaction then of course was much more than a shrug
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/25/world/key-afghan-area-is-reported-lost-by-guerrillas.html
e - The fact that more bomb tonnage was dropped on Vietnam than in the entirety of WW2, or more on North Korea than on Japan, is one of those facts that circulates a lot in left circles, but not much elsewhere. It suggests that strategic/saturation/terror bombing is an integral part of war when one side involved has the superiority. I think @jeff_goldblum is correct.
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Yeah except that Israel do the exact opposite of that, they warn and ask civilians to evacuate before bombing. Not sure how and where were you brainwashed into believing that Israel target civilians. If they wanted to they could turn Gaza into a wasteland within 20 minutes.
Back to facts now, Hamas uses civilians as a human shield and fire rockets from within civilian residences. And they don't target IDF soldiers, they target civilians, like they always have. You probably never heard of the suicide bombings they were carrying out on buses and in restaurants before Israel secured the border, have you?
See you in about three years.
Well at least you're optimistic
But what difference does that really make when they know for sure they will kill civilians while targeting what they consider a legitimate target?
Let's imagine one of those hamas suicide bombers entered the backyard of a house where a military officer from the IDF lived and blew himself up. He kills the officer. At the same time he killed the guy's family and 3 kids who lived next door. Would that be terrorism or a legitimate attack?
I still don't understand why Israel's defenders here keep bringing up hamas when no one here has defended hamas killing any civilians.
Only the people on one side of this argument are trying to legitimize attacking civilians and killing innocent children. Surely you realize how fecked up that sounds.
Hey!! We are going to bomb your house to the ground. You got 60 mins to pack up your life into a suitcase and run into your new refugee life.
Wonder if Ben Shapiro is going to decry cancel culture on this...
There is a different in intent and methods, which is reflected in different ways like phone calls, roof knocks etc., which while not ideal, do provide people with a notification that they need evacuate.
"which while not ideal" seems like a very sanitized way to say "they kill children by the dozens despite their intent".
Their intent means jack shit to be honest, when the end result is the same.
Some of the roof knocks are a 1 min warning...which is nothing.
Yeah that is pretty much useless. If used, they should be 1 hour minimum.
I was referring to roof knocks.
Their intent might be to allow for people to leave the building, but they know they'll end up killing civilians, right?
Wow how generous of them. I cannot believe people think this is a legitimate argument, it’s truly cretinous.
It's one of the most densely populated places on earth. A roof knock is pointless.
If its only a few minutes, then I definitely agree. Its far too little to make a difference.
Well at least you're optimistic
Not really. The last major clash was seven years ago.
That's the disheartening thing about it. It's a horrible, horrible cycle.
Aye. And I don't see where it ends.
Israel have free access to all lands. Palestinians dont. So getting letters through would be a feat.
Hamas don't need to do the same as there are early warning systems in Israel. And iron dome.
Maybe give the Palestinians a similar device and no casualties?
Why are people pushing the people as shields narrative? Enough of the organisations have said this isn't true and if anything one of the war crimes against Israel is the use of Palestinian kids as shields.
Human rights organizations have condemned it many times over.
Again it's whose narrative people want to buy into.
It's fairly obvious really. If you don't want to push a false narrative that is.
Most of the Arab countries have basically accepted the 2 state, 1967 borders solution. Even Hamas have accepted this (Meshal has spoken of it too).
This doesn't suit Israel as it's plan always was to have it all. Especially with the minority right wing parties.
Bottom line is there needs to be pressure to sit down and talk. But this won't happen if what we've seen on here and media is to go by. They won't recognize the truth situation by situation. Israel have instigated this incident but for some reason that's not being allowed to get through. Those who do are called anti Semite or sacked etc
Well, it's obviously where it SHOULD end. But I don't see it happening any time soon. Certainly not the with the current leadership in Israel, which uses Hamas to keep the Palestenians apart, and with the world unwilling to put pressure in Israel.
My "you" was general not aimed at you by the way.
I do agree with you though. There us no will and ultimately with the support Israel gets it's obvious the plan is to let them take over. But they don't say that either.
Interestingly I think there is a "religious twist" to why certain things are not done. For example the reason the "boots on the ground" in Syria (with Isis) argument was argued against politically in the west was because if a hadith. It's also why is pushed for the west to send their armies. Had this happened isis would have got a lot of support from people, if not govts.
Similarly now a full on attack would see by passing of govts like saudi etc by the public.
For me info read about the flags from Khorasan
I concurr
Sounds like an exotic bird that was just discovered.