I think he's a long way off from a typical Greek. Even just scrolling down the page and seeing the pictures you've posted, you'd never think him and Samaras were from the same country. Mitroglou could pass as a member of the Talliban.
Isn't it odd that only white brazilians are attending the games?
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You're stereotyping. The Taliban are clean shaven so they can blend into the population these days.
Don't laugh. Back in 1998, we were watching an England game on TV in my office when one of the partners came in. Paul Ince was on the ball and the partner said "I didn't know you had African Americans in England." I thought he was taking the piss but he wasn't. I politely pointed out that Ince was English (no prefix) and he shook his head in disbelief.
He doesn't even look like the stereotype tbh.
57 percent are black or mixed. Largest population of black people after Nigeria.
One of those inexplicable things about the world we live in, yet very much the norm.
43% (Mulatto) + 8% (Black) = 51%.
And while it does have the largest ammount of 'blacks' after Nigeria, they still only constitute at most half the population of Brazil. While in Nigeria they would make up to 99%
The partner in question was very "white bread." Nice enough in his own way but clueless about the world outside his own gated community.
Ffs... There's no rules which says a black can't buy ticket or watch football.
It's just an effect of economy. I don't think fifa or brazilian fa specifically trying to curb black or colored people from buying ticket.
It's credit card. Unless they have special marking to indicate the color of the holder of yhe card
Some people here simply love to point things out as some kind of evil reincarnated
Not in a million years. The black population of Brazil is 10-15M.
To cut through the various shades of "mixed", recent studies have placed the Brazilian population at roughly 70% European, 20% African and 10% indigenous with regards to its genetic composition.
Such people are quite a regular feature high up in organisations. It's something I always found quite striking and incompatible with everything we read and hear re: globalisation, embracing diversity, etc.
You clearly have no idea what he was talking about. Most stadiums were built on land with irregular settlements. The irregular settlers were duly kicked out and told to go elsewhere (or less kindly, to go feck themselves). We are not talking short-term informal settlements but very long-standing irregular ones with established communities. Carry on living in a bubble though.
I don't know what your point is. Are we talking about heritage or race? If we are talking about heritage it is obvious that his ancestors came from Europe. If we are talking about race, than the Caucasian race is not limited to only light skin colour. It includes people living in Europe, Northern Africa and Western Asia as far as India.
Not odd at all, in Brazil if you are black then it's most likely that you are poor, so it makes a lot of sense than only white middle class people are attending games.
There isn't much of a middle class in Brazil, it's just rich whiter people.
Blue steel has one of the eyebrows slightly higher, so no this is a fabregas original.
Also, how has a thread about the ratio of European looking crowds morphed into a thread about the ethnic appearance of players?
According to Wikipedia, race is determined by the personal preference of the individual, not a predefined set of characteristics with regards to ancestry or appearance. This sounds a bit shady.
Where does that leave Eminem? Or Ashley Cole for that matter.
One of the worst Gini coefficients in the world I think
Eminem? Am I missing something here?
There was a survey done of Brazilians by the census board in the 70s, and apparently people identified with one out of 136 categories, based on color.
I had to look that up, I would guess it probably is..
To answer this question specifically, ignoring the rest of the thread, I think it merely represents the massive amounts of inequality of class in Brasil, which also has racial and cultural underpinnings. Marcos, as a man from South America yourself, you understand the class inequality as it is widespread throughout the continent. Whether it is in Ecuador, Colombia, Brasil, Bolivia etc. it is of no surprise to find the most marginalized of people to be either of indigenous or african descent. This is of course by no accident, especially if you consider South Americas colonial history, the affects of which are still struggling to being dealt with today.
More to your point, the 'white' Brasilians we see in the stadiums are most likely middle to higher class Brasilians who live in the suburbs of São Paulo or Rio de Janiero for instance. It's hard to imagine an indigenous person near the outskirts of the amazon or even a person of african descent from the favelas affording absurdly high ticket prices to watch a football match in the downtown core of the city.
In this world, the class system contains racial connotations, which is of course by no mistake as it is part of a systemic racism that is experienced in every continent, specifically South America.
I must say, I greatly appreciate this observation. I understand the point you are trying to raise by asking this question (A question of which I feel as if you already know the answer to
). It is very depressing to see the how inequality affects many people, but recognizing it is the first step in overcoming it. Thanks again for a wonderful point, it hasn't gone unnoticed.The funny thing is that pretty much every "race" and "ethnicity" on the planet uses the designations of white and black to describe their own people even if those designations don't make sense to others, for example my first cousin is universally known as white in south asia but i'm considered black yet we both consider ourselves ethniclly 100% Bengali and asian lol
Sorry. Basically just means there's a lot of income inequality!
I studied economics some time ago.What has the definition of Caucasian got to do with this? We were discussing if he was of specifically European heritage. So far I've been told that his skin colour could pass in the Mediterranean yet I haven't been show one Southern European with his skin tone. Samaras was given as an example but the difference in this pic is pretty clear:
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail...as-vies-with-costa-ricas-news-photo/451455200
I don't see how he's "clearly" of European descent. Oscar is, so are Demichelis and J Rodriguez. Ruiz looks very indigenous, similar to Di Maria and Sanchez.
There's a huge middle class in Brazil.
I beg to differ.
He may have a bit of a tan in some pictures, but he is not that dark skinned:
Here is Monica Bellucci surrounded by men in Southern Italy, I don't think Ruiz would've looked out of place there:
Anyway, this whole skin colour discussion is pointless. Lets get back on topic.
What the feck is an African American Brazilian
brazil is in america
Maybe it's about how we define middle class. I'm thinking relative globally.
The middle class has an average income of between 1,115 and 4,807 reais ($586 and $2,530), O Globo said.
The middle class has an average income of between 1,115 and 4,807 reais ($586 and $2,530), O Globo said.
i think it has more to do with what you can buy with that kind of money
Not a lot from my experience in brasil, my in laws maid gets 2,500 reais a month.
I beg to differ too. In fact there are 4 social classes in Brazil right now. A white rich minority, the middle class, the C class and the lower classes. There's definitely a middle class, which is the political and social representation of the rich class values.
What the feck is an African American Brazilian
feck knows! isn't every black person American...cos they invented Black people right
There is a middle class in terms of income, but not how middle class is defined in the UK.
In the 1960's they liberated them from tyranny. Bravo USA.