ISIS in Iraq and Syria

Vato said:
Whoa, forgot all about you, mate.

How have you been holding up lately? Good to hear you're still safe.
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Well yeah I'm safe and fine but my gf's father been kidnapped by the rebels, yesterday they sent them a text saying he is well and alive, waiting for them to ask for money now.
 
syrian_scholes said:
Oh and I also want to add that the revulutionaries armies are a bunch of thieves and kidnappers, it seems like this revolution was stolen from the people.
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I had told you that more than a year ago or was that @Kaos ?

Good to see you're alive and well :)
 
VidaRed said:
I had told you that more than a year ago or was that @Kaos ?

Good to see you're alive and well :)
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Well mate, I did say that the revolution was stolen from the people, it's been more than 2 years since I last wrote anything about Syria here, at those times things were looking brighter.
 
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syrian_scholes said:
Well yeah I'm safe and fine but my gf's father been kidnapped by the rebels, yesterday they sent them a text saying he is well and alive, waiting for them to ask for money now.
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That sounds rough, hope your GF's father returns safely. Good to hear you're OK though mate.

syrian_scholes said:
Well mate, I did say that the revolution was stolen from the people, it's been more than 2 years since I last wrote anything about Syria here, at those times things were looking brighter.
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I take no pleasure in being proven right about the rebels considering the grave circumstances, but I did say all this over two years ago:

Kaos (April 2012) said:
I agree with you in that Syria desperately needs reforms, I mean heck I was one of those loudest in demands for reforms back in March 2011 when the protests started. However since then these peaceful protests have been hijacked by Islamic extremists who have steered them into an all out violent sectarian conflict, and won't stop now until Syria becomes an Islamic theocracy. Thats also why regional neighbours such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar have been arming the rebels - they have no regard for human rights or democracy in Syria, they just hate seeing Alawites at the helm and would rather have their own Wahabi-like ilk running the country.

And this idea that its Assad's war against his people is not only ludicrously simplified, but its flat out false too. Assad hasn't been personally ordering attacks against the Syrian people, instead he's put trust into his army and the generals which lead them (almost all of which remain loyal to Syria and Assad) to provide stability and crush any violent threats. And funny enough if these FSA rebels start cowardly forcing themselves into civilian homes in Homs to launch their mortar attacks from, or if they plant bombs in civilian-dense zones in Damascus, then the army will most likely retaliate. And unfortunately when that happens innocent people get caught up in the crossfire.

The truth is millions of Syrians either remain loyal to Assad, or prefer him to the alternative which would most likely be an Islamic theocracy which would threaten Syria's secular fabric. The best solution would hence to carry out (significant) reforms, not sectarian civil war which is what the gulf nations are currently egging for. I think I speak for most Syrians when I say we don't need another Lebanon or Iraq in the region.
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Red Dreams said:
interesting read. they will spare the Jews and Christians? But will kill Muslims who do not agree with their version of the Koran?
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I think what they mean by 'sparing' the Christians is giving them the 'choice' of converting or being killed, whereas Shia and other Muslim sects pretty much get murdered on the spot. Oh, and all their churches and religious items have to be torched.
 
syrian_scholes said:
Well yeah I'm safe and fine but my gf's father been kidnapped by the rebels, yesterday they sent them a text saying he is well and alive, waiting for them to ask for money now.
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:( feck, man. That's awful, hope he doesn't get harmed. What a world we live in, eh? Stay safe, bud.
 
The pilot is apparently a Jordanian

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Relevated said:
and why is it such major news if ISIS have downed the F-16 or not?
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Because it shows that they are capable of also downing Western planes and capturing maybe a US pilot. It also puts some of their missions at higher risk if they know ISIS have the technology to take them down.
 
Relevated said:
Whats his name?
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No feckin idea, I just remember his shit-eating grin from that Vice documentary where he was walking around Raqqah humiliating men and women and ordering people around like he has a run of the place. Was hoping he'd have been eliminated by now but ahh well.
 
Suli said:
Because it shows that they are capable of also downing Western planes and capturing maybe a US pilot. It also puts some of their missions at higher risk if they know ISIS have the technology to take them down.
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Reports suggest that the plane wasn't downed by ISIS but rather crashed over their territories for unknown reasons.
 
Lets face it, it was ISIS. The faster we face that they are actually a danger the faster they will be dealt with. No point blaming XYZ when we all know it was ISIS.
 
Relevated said:
Lets face it, it was ISIS. The faster we face that they are actually a danger the faster they will be dealt with. No point blaming XYZ when we all know it was ISIS.
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Surely if they had ground to air missiles the chance of the pilot surviving is slim? Wouldn't it completely feck up a plane that size?

If I was the pilot I'd rather go down with the plane than eject into their hands. It'd be a much quicker death.
 
There is definitely a chance that it was due to some other reason but the fact that it crashed over ISIS territory after flying fine before that, the fact that Jordan isn't denying that ISIS downed it and I think the father of the pilot was told by the Jordanian government that it was downed by a heat seeking missile so the odds that ISIS didnt do it are pretty slim imo.

Also, The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a British monitoring group, said that ISIS militants used an anti-aircraft missile to shoot down the jet.
 
According to YPG, they have killed 4964 ISIS fighters this year. They're also destroyed 13 tanks and 167 vehicles.
 
Around 1300 members of different Kurdish forces were martyred in 2014. Almost all of them in the fight against ISIS.
 
Intense clashes continue in Kobane.



I think that's an American air strike in the early part of the video, and you can also see how little of the city is left, throughout.
 
BBC World News at 23:30 GMT is showing a documentary from inside Kobane.
 
Last night there was an attempt to free some prisoners, including the pilot, from Raqqa. It failed. Now apparently the Dailymail have given away the name of an anti-IS activist who lives there.
 
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Last night there was an attempt to free some prisoners, including the pilot, from Raqqa. It failed. Now apparently the Dailymail have given away the name of an anti-IS activist who lives there.
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What a bunch of idiots. That guy could get killed now.
 
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