They killed an awful lot of Christians, too.
ISIS in Iraq and Syria
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They killed an awful lot of Christians, too.
The Muslims they kill they regard to be heretics and not 'genuine'. So any Muslims who are Shia, Sufi, Alawite or generally secular are considered infidels and must hence be cleansed. Muslims who support the Syrian/Iraqi government or vote are considered traitors so they must be killed too.
The 'brothers' they refer to are those who abide to their insane interpretation of Islam.
I've read quite a bit about the period without encountering a single reference to Hitler's so-called Catholicism. I have read many references to his contempt for religion. He regarded people essentially as animals in a struggle for existence. Very Darwinian and not at all Christian. To Hitler, the idea of human beings having 'souls' would have been laughable.
Most Germans of the time were Christians, and the Nazis, being smart operators, weren't about to publicly alienate them. The God invocations are just standard political cant. Having God on your side is useful if many of your people are believers. (It was the bloody-handed Pagan gods of Germanic mythology that inspired the Nazis). Nazi ideology, beliefs and practice were anti-Christian in the most fundamental way. This was recognized by the Church - they had no illusions about where they stood with Hitler. (This isn't to say that there weren't German clerics who supported the Nazis. But it was in spite of their religion, not because of it).
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He certainly couldn't believe in souls based on what he did to people..
The post was made in opposition to a 'religion is the root of all evil' argument.
Christian on Christian violence. Sounds a bit like the Muslim world these days.
Typical Hitler ranting, I suppose. I really don't remember, it didn't make much of an impression on me. My dad's Prussian roots make certain I hate the little Austrian corproral anyway.
ISIS demanded the release of Dr Aafia Siddiqui in a prisoner swap with James Foley according to the New York Times
In the second video you see a Peshmerga volunteer from Wood Green, North London.
Interesting. She's not likely to leave prison for the rest of her life.
Never thought I'd say this, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching this US drone rip these feckers to shreds 
(not a graphic video btw)
EDIT: Turns out this footage might be from Afghanistan. Ahh well...more of the same please?
(not a graphic video btw)EDIT: Turns out this footage might be from Afghanistan. Ahh well...more of the same please?
Didn't stop a few ISIS fanboys from commenting on it on the YouTube page.
This usually means 'there is no (other) God but Allah', and not 'there is no God but there is Allah'.
Raid on Syria Isis camp may have been US rescue attempt
By Erika Solomon in Erbil©Reuters
Long before the US acknowledged that its special forces tried and failed to free American hostages in Syria, among them the recently murdered James Foley, Syrian activists in the city of Raqqa were avidly discussing a mysterious night-time raid.
In conversations with the Financial Times last month, they recounted how on the night of July 3 a jet circled continuously over their homes without dropping a single bomb. The lights in the entire city went out, and every fighter was on high alert.
“It started somewhere around midnight or 1am,” said one activist, who asked not to be identified. “As for the helicopters, the fighters barely heard them coming, they were so quiet.”
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8423706c-293a-11e4-9d5d-00144feabdc0.html?siteedition=uk#axzz3B6x24F1G
By Erika Solomon in Erbil©Reuters
Long before the US acknowledged that its special forces tried and failed to free American hostages in Syria, among them the recently murdered James Foley, Syrian activists in the city of Raqqa were avidly discussing a mysterious night-time raid.
In conversations with the Financial Times last month, they recounted how on the night of July 3 a jet circled continuously over their homes without dropping a single bomb. The lights in the entire city went out, and every fighter was on high alert.
“It started somewhere around midnight or 1am,” said one activist, who asked not to be identified. “As for the helicopters, the fighters barely heard them coming, they were so quiet.”
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8423706c-293a-11e4-9d5d-00144feabdc0.html?siteedition=uk#axzz3B6x24F1G
ah ok, thanks for that.
Don't they know things like this will only drive the Sunni's of Iraq into ISIS' arms? If this is true, I despair, the chances of defeating ISIS and ending the bloodshed just got a whole lot worse.
There is some speculation that the attack could have been carried out by an ISIS unit (posing as Shia militants) as a way of drawing more Sunnis into the conflict. But who knows what to believe.
I really need to get around to watching that film.Actually the atheists killed more people than the Christians and Muslims together
You seem to have completely missed his point.
Did they kill in the name of not god then?
No one kills in the name of atheism. How many times does this need to be pointed out?
Looking to the Soviet and Mao's era yes they kill in name of no God, we still have North Korea killing people and making sure they have no hope and religion I'm guessing gives them some hope.... in another side we have people using religion as a tool to kill but the biggest murders still on the atheists side.
Athiests don't need to kill in the name of anything, since they don't believe in anything. I think the point is that athiests are as bad as religious people at times when it comes to killing so using the 'oh religion teaches this' excuse doesn't work all of the time.
They don't have to kill in name of nothing, Hitler, Stalin and Mao did it and Kim Jong still in action.
So I'm guessing the atheists are really dangerous because they don't need a reason to commit atrocities but they did by the millions.
not no one, but few.
Atheist nuts and religion nuts have one thing in common, they kill to have power.
that statement is so shrouded in your own bias against people who don't follow religion that its not even worth noting.
Yeah, exactly.
Even if we go just on sheer numbers and completely ignore the reason for atrocities, Christians and Muslims have killed more just because of the amount of time they've spent killing people. In any case, atheism is the position that there's no god and has no further ideological leanings. The bible and quran explicitly tell people to kill others.
I'm using the same arguments they have against religion, Christians killed in name of God, the Muslim the same but the 3 biggest evils on our planet were atheists.
A lot of the atheists have a religion called communism which is the worst religion we can get.
they were possibly atheists. You can't really be sure about their beliefs unless they explicitly said them. In the case of Hitler its up in the air. As for your othe examples, i'm not well versed enough to argue them.
They typically kill in the name of their chosen ideology, which may or may not have anything to do with Atheism. Hitler had National Socialism, Stalin & Mao, communism, etc. etc.
Atheism has no ideological leanings with any political theory. The statement "there is no god" has nothing to do with politics.
They were horrible people but their actions can't be blamed on being athiest, it was mainly all about power or political ideologies in those examples. They may have all also been left handed but it wouldn't make it a sound point to say that left-handism has killed more people than right-handism. The difference with religion is that many conflicts and murders can reasonably be attributed directly to it as a root cause. I do agree also that in many other cases, it is in fact a power struggle rather than religion that is truly the cause.