ISIS in Iraq and Syria

Kaos said:
Have you or anyone you know been approached by them?
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I don't think it's even about being approached by them. Many disengaged youngsters who feel left out in our current society might feel more at home with their virtual brethern that have the same roots than with anyone they live in the real world with.

I'd say the biggest recruitment tool for IS is the internet. Social media, forums and other platforms have contributed a lot to provide information to potential supporters and romanticise the idea of being a Jihadist/Muhadjeen.
 
africanspur said:
Why are these people masked? I understand why militants fighting in their home countries might want to cover up to prevent strikes from their enemy on their families/ stop whoever they're fighting targeting/ kidnapping them when they're not fighting but who the hell are these people hiding from? I'm going to assume most of their families, if they exist, don't live with them out there.
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They don't want to be identified and arrested when they get back home, wherever that may be.
 
JohnDoe said:
Read an article somewhere that said that twice as many Muslims have gone to fight with ISIS than are in the British armed forces. Crazy if true.
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Its silly to think Muslims would fight for an army which goes against Islamic belief so thats not surprising at all.
 
JohnDoe said:
Read an article somewhere that said that twice as many Muslims have gone to fight with ISIS than are in the British armed forces. Crazy if true.
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There are 650 Muslims in the British armed forces so the above article would need to be quite off in its numbers for that to be true.
 
holyland red said:
The story mentions his experience fighting with islamists in Syria. The relevant authorities probably know the specifics.
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and the shops he goes to probably know about the things he has purchased. It has nothing to do with what I was talking.
 
africanspur said:
Why are these people masked? I understand why militants fighting in their home countries might want to cover up to prevent strikes from their enemy on their families/ stop whoever they're fighting targeting/ kidnapping them when they're not fighting but who the hell are these people hiding from? I'm going to assume most of their families, if they exist, don't live with them out there.
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It's fecking dusty out there. Have you never watched Lawrence of Arabia?
 
If its true then I hope they all suffer a really humiliating death but it goes against all of their teachings and these guys are hardcore by the looks of it. Im not defending them or anything here but I don't think its true. Why would they behead children for no reason anyway
 
africanspur said:
Why are these people masked? I understand why militants fighting in their home countries might want to cover up to prevent strikes from their enemy on their families/ stop whoever they're fighting targeting/ kidnapping them when they're not fighting but who the hell are these people hiding from?
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They're hiding from governments because they're afraid of what could happen to their family that they've left behind.
 
Relevated said:
They're hiding from governments because they're afraid of what could happen to their family that they've left behind.
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As Kaos said though, what are we going to do with their families? If this guy had shown his face, I really doubt the British government would demolish his family's home or revoke his family's citizenship or torture/ kill his family. We're not even going to imprison them unless there's something linking them to his activities.

I know he was joking but I don't think Suli is that off tbh, that mask is almost like a uniform now.
 
So many lunatics in this fecked up world. Just press that button Putin, so we can nuke this planet from orbit.
 
Suli said:
It'll lead to investigations at home, could arrest some preachers and stuff. Don't want that happening as it means less people come.

Plus it makes them look well hard.
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:lol: Its either these masks or when soldiers wear sunglasses
 
Vato said:
So many lunatics in this fecked up world. Just press that button Putin, so we can nuke this planet from orbit.
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The misanthrope in me completely supports a reset or alien enslavement. Though I'll just settle for a gradual severance of humanity's relationship with religion.

Edit: Or an icebucket challenge..
 
Lynk said:
Fanatical nature of Islam in particular. People are keen to blame Catholicism for their failings and rightly so, but seem less keen to blame Islam for it's own failings, simply blaming "religion" in general.
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I agree. Islamism is one of the biggest problems the world faces today. Not sure how it can be stopped - the religion seems intrinsically imperialistic.
 
Relevated said:
I'd be really surprised if this is true.
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Why would anyone be surprised?

Based on the behavior and words of ISIS up to this point, it would be accurate to say that they are striving to replicate the behavior of the original Islamic state of the 7th Century. Just look at the details of what they are doing and compare it to what the Quran tells us about the original conquests. We literally have the blueprints for what they are trying to achieve, and they tell us that even the execution of children is not beneath ISIS.
 
Stating the obvious!

Seriously messed up and confused people in this world.
 
Lynk said:
That and people being able to speak out about the faults of Islam, they're shit scared due to retaliation.
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It's been faulted on here quite a bit, the religion thread's decimated the Quran and it gets called all sorts of things in threads about the middle east. Giving a good education and standard of life to people in places like Pakistan will do a lot more than being able to speak out against it.
 
Silva said:
It's been faulted on here quite a bit, the religion thread's decimated the Quran and it gets called all sorts of things in threads about the middle east. Giving a good education and standard of life to people in places like Pakistan will do a lot more than being able to speak out against it.
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Really? The perpetrator in killing Foley has a British accent. Mohamed Elomar, an Australian born ISIS member has been posing along with his son with decapitated heads. It goes beyond class and upbringing.

When I meant criticism, I meant on a public scale. At the moment it's fecking idiots like UKIP who are being publicly critical, and a lot of that is based solely on skin colour rather than the religion.
 
Lynk said:
Really? The perpetrator in killing Foley has a British accent. Mohamed Elomar, an Australian born ISIS member has been posing along with his son with decapitated heads. It goes beyond class and upbringing.

When I meant criticism, I meant on a public scale. At the moment it's fecking idiots like UKIP who are being publicly critical, and a lot of that is based solely on skin colour rather than the religion.
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Really. There's a reason why extremists training camps aren't located in Europe, and that reason is the public being vehemently against extreme religious ideology. In Pakistan however people aren't given enough to be able to reject these. What exactly will a public outcry in the UK achieve? Fewer than 500 Britons going to join these lunatics? That's a very small number of people you're targeting there and one that will be largely inconsequential to the bigger picture. Just look at the Taliban (because they're better documented), what they did was take a generation of boys, brainwash them in Islamist schools in Pakistan and send them into Afghanistan to create a Caliphate, they even succeed temporarily. Would that have happened if there had been genuine investment in giving Pakistanis a good and thorough education? Unlikely. If you focus on educating people rather than playing daddy big bollocks and going around calling people twats you'll actually change their minds and behavior, if you do act the daddy big bollocks you're just going to make them think "What the feck does that cnut know?"
 
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