ISIS in Iraq and Syria

So, after this (in Finland)...
Danny1982 said:
A story too good to be true – The toy smuggler of Aleppo’s jihadist connections, made-up stories and an orphan project run aground

Aid worker Rami Adham has gained international recognition for helping orphans in Syria. However, an investigation by Helsingin Sanomat finds that Adham has misled the public, has tight links to jihadist groups and his Aleppo orphan project also has many irregularities. Adham denies the claims.

http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/a1477021713106
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Now this (in the UK)...

Men 'used aid convoys to transport items for terrorism to Syria'
14 November 2016

Four men used aid convoys bound for Syria to transport items that would be used to commit terrorism offences, a court heard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/14/men-used-aid-convoys-to-transport-terror-tools-to-syria/


By the way, these are only considered as terrorists and are investigated and tried because they live in Europe. In Syria they're still the peaceful heroes we should all support and believe.
 
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And now this.

German Prosecutors Charge Syrian Man With War Crimes

German prosecutors say they have charged a 41-year-old Syrian man with committing war crimes and carrying out kidnappings.

Federal prosecutors say the man, identified only as Ibrahim Al F., in line with German privacy laws, was a commander in the group Ghurabaa al-Sham.

The group was part of the Free Syrian Army, which took up arms against the army of Syrian President Bashar Assad in 2012.

Prosecutors said in a statement that the suspect led a unit of 150 militiamen that carried out lootings in Aleppo.

He is alleged to have imprisoned and tortured several residents of the city who attempted to stop the lootings. Prosecutors say one of the prisoners died following torture.

http://abcnews.go.com/International...ecutors-charge-syrian-man-war-crimes-43603885


FSA freedom heroes in Syria, criminals in Europe.
 
Raoul said:
Seems like prime time for Genocide/War Crimes for the Russians since Trump got elected.
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It's been happening even before Trump got elected.
 
Raoul said:
Seems like prime time for Genocide/War Crimes for the Russians since Trump got elected.
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Why don't you try to figure out what's happening in your country first before acting like you know what you're talking about when it comes to middle East? ;)

Your Obama has already created two Al-Qaeda groups in Syria (acknowledged by him) so far, when you were saying this to me a couple of years ago:
Raoul said:
I think people are happily fanning the flames of paranoia about what might happen if Assad is gone, usually as a means to justify keeping him in power. That's been the Syrian regime's narrative and some on the outside have now taken it on as well. In truth, there are all sorts of things that could happen if Assad is toppled, and Al-Qaeda taking over is probably at the bottom of the list.
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Bottom of list indeed.. :rolleyes:
 
2cents said:
This article claims Egyptian troops are in Syria fighting on behalf of Assad - http://m.assafir.com/Article/518343
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Have been hearing about this for a few weeks now. Don't buy it. Seems to me like nothing more than propaganda. There have been some differences between Egypt and Saudi Arabia lately, and they're trying to capitalise on that and try to create a split or a mini-conflict between those two.

Egypt's political stance has definitely been getting closer to Syria though in the last few weeks.
 
Huge gains for Syrian Army in east Aleppo at the moment

Syria's government forces made a breakthrough deep in the rebel-held parts in Aleppo, snatching new territories from the Islamist militants.

Days after fierce battles with the jihadi groups, the Syrian Army recaptured several neighborhood in Hanano Housing district, a key bastion for the rebel forces since 2012.

The areas recaptured include the Post building, the orphanage and Omar Ibn al-Khattab mosque among others.
 
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Danny1982 said:
Have been hearing about this for a few weeks now. Don't buy it. Seems to me like nothing more than propaganda. There have been some differences between Egypt and Saudi Arabia lately, and they're trying to capitalise on that and try to create a split or a mini-conflict between those two.

Egypt's political stance has definitely been getting closer to Syria though in the last few weeks.
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Yeah Sisi and Assad have common enemies. Really though Egypt should be sorting its own shit out before even thinking about getting involved abroad.
 
"Where does ISIS get much of its weapons and ammunition from?"

The BBC are now "trying to find out" in Mosul...



... from weapons and ammo legally purchased by the US and Saudi Arabia and shipped to the rebels in Syria through Turkey, falling into ISIS' hands sometimes in as quick as two months. Surprise surprise. :rolleyes:

- "So how did that happen?"

- "Once you move weapons from the control of a national government and supply weapons to non-state actors, particularly in a conflict like Syria where there are so many groups that are inter-linked and crossed allegiances, it becomes very difficult to maintain control over these weapons."

- "Is there anything we can do to stop that?"

- "We can stop supplying those groups with weapons I think is the simplest explanation."
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I just refuse to believe that anybody is this "stupid".
 
Danny1982 said:
Have been hearing about this for a few weeks now. Don't buy it. Seems to me like nothing more than propaganda. There have been some differences between Egypt and Saudi Arabia lately, and they're trying to capitalise on that and try to create a split or a mini-conflict between those two.

Egypt's political stance has definitely been getting closer to Syria though in the last few weeks.
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Indeed.
Egypt has clearly chosen to distance itself from Saudi Arabia, refusing to participate in KSA’s “Decisive Storm” aggression against Yemen, and now
choosing to support the Syrian army against the Gulf Monarchy backed terrorist, which holds deep political implications.


http://ahtribune.com/world/north-af...yria-crisis/1357-syria-isis-egypt-pilots.html
 
2cents said:
Yeah Sisi and Assad have common enemies. Really though Egypt should be sorting its own shit out before even thinking about getting involved abroad.
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As expected, an Egyptian official has confirmed yesterday that the reports about Egyptian pilots in Syria are totally false and baseless.

MUFAN79 said:
Indeed.
Egypt has clearly chosen to distance itself from Saudi Arabia, refusing to participate in KSA’s “Decisive Storm” aggression against Yemen, and now
choosing to support the Syrian army against the Gulf Monarchy backed terrorist, which holds deep political implications.
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I think if the Saudi-Egyptian relations continue to deteriorate in the coming weeks/months, Saudi Arabia will start activating their terrorist cells (Wahhabi/Salafi groups) to trigger unrest in Egypt and may try to topple Sisi if he doesn't change his political stances.


Meanwhile, ISIS has released a video explaining how to make explosives from simple materials, directing it especially at those living in Europe. And in Germany...

Syrian refugee arrested in Germany with bomb-making materials

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-arrest-idUSKBN13J1X9
 
Yeah the Syrian army is advancing quickly now in East Aleppo, which might be split in two pockets soon. The rebels infighting inside East Aleppo and the objections of the civilians living there (who are still prevented from leaving East Aleppo by Al-Nusra and co in areas under their control) is escalating now.

On another front, a, probably significant, development happened a couple of days ago around Al-Bab as well, as the Turkish troops and their "rebels" were approaching the village, the Turkish officials announced that 3 of their soldiers were killed in what they claimed to be a Syrian airstrike. Putin called Erdogan to offer him his condolences for the death of these soldiers immediately afterwards. Turkey promised to retaliate...

The interesting part is, those three soldiers were killed exactly on the 1-year anniversary of the Russian S-24 that was downed by Turkey last year. Could be a mere coincidence, but the Al-Bab front may heat up soon.
 
Al-Nusra and co are losing control over the northern part of Eastern part of Aleppo and the civilians are now managing to leave East Aleppo in large numbers. Over 2000 have been evacuated so far.

Total collapse in the northern part of East Aleppo.
 
There is now no hope for jihadists in Eastern Aleppo. Some even are well known (the child-beheaders, for example), and know the fate that awaits them. Morale must be terrible.

May Syria be freed from these Obama's jihadists soon.
 
MUFAN79 said:
There is now no hope for jihadists in Eastern Aleppo. Some even are well known (the child-beheaders, for example), and know the fate that awaits them. Morale must be terrible.

May Syria be freed from these Obama's jihadists soon.
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The collapse so far is limited to the northern third of East Aleppo, which is about to be isolated and might fall soon. We will still need to wait and see how the battle for the Southern two-thirds unfolds. They probably don't have much chance of resistance, but the current rate of developments is only confined to the northern third.
 
Danny1982 said:
The collapse so far is limited to the northern third of East Aleppo, which is about to be isolated and might fall soon. We will still need to wait and see how the battle for the Southern two-thirds unfolds. They probably don't have much chance of resistance, but the current rate of developments is only confined to the northern third.
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That's good enough for me. They'll probably crumble soon in whole E.Aleppo. Thousands are escaping from east Aleppo with the help of the Syrian Army.
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That map is inaccurate actually (and that part about Kurdish forces being besieged is just bs, they're fighting with the Syrian army and they control big part of that red area adjacent to Sheikh Maqsood), but the next target will probably be Bab Al-Nayrab indeed.

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This now confirms what we have been saying all along. Al-Nusra and co were literally holding the civilians in East Aleppo as hostages and human shields for political propaganda. Not one civilian managed to escape when they were in control,

Danny1982 said:
The usual propaganda machines are trying to suggest that the people in East Aleppo "don't want to leave", even though their own journalist who was sent on the ground to watch the ceasefire reported this (with videos):



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and the moment they lost control over the entrances and exits, people immediately ran away from them to regime controlled areas.
 
Joshua Landis on Syria and Trump’s election: ‘America has prolonged the civil war, only destabilized the region’

http://syriadirect.org/news/joshua-...ged-the-civil-war-only-destabilized-the-region’/

Good interview there, he makes some interesting points, especially concerning Turkey, arguing that basically if the US wants to maintain its relationship with Turkey then partition is inevitable, and the Kurds are likely to get screwed. But at the same time, the Iraqi government is unlikely to accept a Turkish-backed Sunni rebel state replacing ISIS in eastern Syria.

Taking a longer-term view of this conflict, I think the primary form it will take as we approach the 2020s is as a battle between Turkey and Iran, with all the other minor conflicts which are currently tied up in it becoming more and more subservient to that overall framework as time goes on.
 
Even more proof about the real situation in East Aleppo, Al-Qaeda and co (and their international backers) holding civilians hostages for their political gains. Even the BBC (!!!) now admits that (between the lines)...
Five families escaped together, she says - they defied opposition fighters who warned they would be killed by the Syrian army if they crossed over.

Like many others, she recounted how they came under rebel fire as they tried to escape.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38194962

Of course the BBC wouldn't even want to admit such thing, has it not been caught live and on camera on multiple occasions:



As they're still struggling to to find a way to skew the ever so clear reality to fit into their years long biased propaganda..

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And as expected, those pretending to care about the civilians, were the first to feel sad that the civilians are now safe...



Like I said many times before, shame on everybody who tries to use the suffering of the innocent only as a mean to achieve his political goals.


antihenry said:
This is why everything you’ve read about the wars in Syria and Iraq could be wrong.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...thing-youve-read-could-be-wrong-a7451656.html
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We don't need any articles to tell us that anymore. The reality has become too clear for any propaganda to hide (even though they're still trying).
 
Al-Nusra and co seem to have lost control over East Aleppo with many fighters giving up and letting civilians escape. The middle third of East Aleppo is collapsing now.

It might be easier to understand this collapse if we go back to 2012, and remember how East Aleppo fell into the hands of the "rebels" in the first place.

Syria's 16-month revolt has finally erupted in the country's commercial hub, but the momentum was not generated inside the city - it was brought into the historic city's ancient stone alleyways from the scorched fields of the surrounding countryside.

"We liberated the rural parts of this province. We waited and waited for Aleppo to rise, and it didn't. We couldn't rely on them to do it for themselves so we had to bring the revolution to them," said a rebel commander in a nearby village, who calls himself Abu Hashish.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/syria-crisis-aleppo-idUSL6E8IT0TY20120729
 
MUFAN79 said:
So at the end, how many civilians were inside east Aleppo? The neighborhoods are almost empty
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Exactly. Was going to talk about this. More and more of the blatant lies told by the propaganda machines for years is being exposed now in Aleppo.

This is not the first time it happened. In Darayya they were also talking about 'tens of thousands of people', and when they were eventually evacuated turned out there were only 2000-3000 inside. Now in East Aleppo, they kept going in their propaganda about 275,000 (some went even higher), and now more than 80% of Aleppo is cleared and the number of people evacuated till now is 28,700, where are the rest? Still a lot of people being held hostage by Al-Nusra and co mind you (which was also lied about in their propaganda), but when you blow things 10 times out of proportion, you can't really call yourself more than a propaganda machine, with a pro-terrorists agenda, and you're definitely not reporting "news". But then again I don't think anybody even dares to disagree about this now.

By the way, here is also an example of the "schools" in the "rebels" area...

 
antihenry said:
In Aleppo, I Saw Why Assad Is Winning, by Barak Barfi.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/aleppo-syria-assad-214494

The reporter is trying his best to shit on regime and its war allies but is forced to admit that Asaad's rule is preferable to the majority of Syrians.
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Read that the other day. The last line - "In the end it may well look like a victory that would have been better avoided" - was the one that got me. Maybe he's trying to get at something in a clever way and my simple brain interpreted it too literally, but it just sounds dumb no matter how I try to look at it.
 
IS overrunning Palmyra again? Thought this was all done with and secured almost a year ago.
 
ISIS terrorists retreated from Palmyra due to heavy Syrian Army resistance. Clashes in Al Sawame'a area 6 km to the east of the city
Syrian AAF and Russian AF are pounding ISIS forces around the city.
 
MUFAN79 said:
And look at this Danny
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Not only this. The amount of weapons, ammo and supplies they found are staggering. During these US and allies-brokered "truces" they managed to build up stores enough for years, literally years of battle. The people of Aleppo were so sick of them in the end though that they forced their way out and ruined their (and their backers') plans.
 
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