Isco

Madrid would be idiots to sell him... that said they have some form in that area (Makalele, Seedorf, Robben, sneijder, etc)

Much as I rate Isco I would't actually be that bothered if we were not in for him as we have Rooney, Mata and Fellaini all capable of doing (different) jobs behind a striker so I would sooner see us focus on strengthening elsewhere (rightback, centreback and central midfield being the areas that jump to mind)

Plus the more we are linked to Madrid players (Bale, Ronaldo, Benzema, Isco, Modric, Carvajal, etc) the more these bloody De Gea to Madrid rumours, player swap, blah blah etc keep on circulating and I would just rather that ended ASAP
 
Madrid wouldnt like to sell him, but if Isco wants out, we should be right there with Agent Dave, Mata and Herrera doing our part. At the end of the day, one of the 3 (Isco, Bale, James) has to go.
 
I think they'd more likely get rid of Ancelotti before this guy. They'd be mental to sell him.
 
Varun said:
If he's available, much rather him than Depay.
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They play different positions. We are in need more of a Depay type player rather than a #10 like Isco. Even though he is a wonderful and talented little player, we dont need him.
 
If he's out there we should drop everything and hunt him down like a rabid fox. I wanted us to go all out for this guy, ahead of Bale, during the Summer of Moyes.

Of course we wound up getting neither. Along with Thiago and Strootman. What a happy time that was!
 
RedorDead21 said:
The box to box midfielder will play on the left carrick centre and Herrera right. Isco isnt that.
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He's been playing left midfield for Real and what about if we bring in a powerful CM to sit deep like Schneiderlin, there are so many ways he could fit in and is way too talented to let him join Hazard, Sanchez and Aguero as top players that go to our rivals not us, we really lack a clever dribbler that can retain the ball as well.

Varun said:
If he's available, much rather him than Depay.
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Me too, he might not be quite as quick but he's much more skillful and clever in his play from the left.

Lash said:
I think they'd more likely get rid of Ancelotti before this guy. They'd be mental to sell him.
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I don't think Ancelotti is the reason he's not playing, it's Perez demands regarding Bale and James.
 
Devil may care said:
He's been playing left midfield for Real and what about if we bring in a powerful CM to sit deep like Schneiderlin, there are so many ways he could fit in and is way too talented to let him join Hazard, Sanchez and Aguero as top players that go to our rivals not us, we really lack a clever dribbler that can retain the ball as well.



Me too, he might not be quite as quick but he's much more skillful and clever in his play from the left.



I don't think Ancelotti is the reason he's not playing, it's Perez demands regarding Bale and James.
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I really thought Ozil and Di Maria would shine in the PL but so far I can see why they were allowed to move on. The latter also played left midfield for Real! I'm not convinced Isco wouldnt flatter to deceive also. He'd be a massive outlay. I think there are so many other targets which are not as shiny which may give our team a better balance...i.e Reus
 
RedorDead21 said:
I really thought Ozil and Di Maria would shine in the PL but so far I can see why they were allowed to move on. The latter also played left midfield for Real! I'm not convinced Isco wouldnt flatter to deceive also. He'd be a massive outlay. I think there are so many other targets which are not as shiny which may give our team a better balance...i.e Reus
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Reus is probably more shiny and would cost quite a bit no?
 
RedorDead21 said:
I really thought Ozil and Di Maria would shine in the PL but so far I can see why they were allowed to move on. The latter also played left midfield for Real! I'm not convinced Isco wouldnt flatter to deceive also. He'd be a massive outlay. I think there are so many other targets which are not as shiny which may give our team a better balance...i.e Reus
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How is Reus not shiny? I would have him over Ozil and Di Maria. He would probably cost somewhere in that 40-50m range as well.
 
RedorDead21 said:
I really thought Ozil and Di Maria would shine in the PL but so far I can see why they were allowed to move on. The latter also played left midfield for Real! I'm not convinced Isco wouldnt flatter to deceive also. He'd be a massive outlay. I think there are so many other targets which are not as shiny which may give our team a better balance...i.e Reus
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Reus is a strange one to mention given he's clearly physically weaker than Isco and would be just as costly given his new contract he just signed. Isco has great upper body strength like Hazard and Sanchez and has shown during his time at Real that he is willing to adapt his game and fight for a place, even if the place he earned is taken from him immediately when the more expensive options need to be played.
 
he would be brilliant but I think Van Gaal will want to have someone who adds a bit more muscles, he always tend to play rooney in midfield.. the balance thing, but he could play instead of Mata which would be shame but I would still take him as b2b alongside Herrera and Schneiderlin as beasty DM sitting behind them..
 
RedorDead21 said:
I really thought Ozil and Di Maria would shine in the PL but so far I can see why they were allowed to move on. The latter also played left midfield for Real! I'm not convinced Isco wouldnt flatter to deceive also. He'd be a massive outlay. I think there are so many other targets which are not as shiny which may give our team a better balance...i.e Reus
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Isco is more similar to Silva or even Cazorla than Ozil or Di Maria. Ozil is a player for the final third. Isco can play pretty much anywhere, he can also drop deep and control the game. He's also physically strong(stronger than Silva,Ozil,Di Maria) and puts in a defensive shift.
 
RDCR07 said:
They play different positions. We are in need more of a Depay type player rather than a #10 like Isco. Even though he is a wonderful and talented little player, we dont need him.
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Isco isn't strictly a No 10. He can easily be deployed as a playmaker from the left. Much like Mata does from the right now. He has all the qualities to play there and is a hard worker to the boot.
 
couldn't see us signing both him and Depay. would be one or the other.
 
septic said:
couldn't see us signing both him and Depay. would be one or the other.
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Absolutely. Even if Isco is in the market, I see Van Gaal going for Depay though. Right from the time those stories surfaced of Van Gaal asking him to stay another year, I've believed that he's given him a verbal commitment to bring him here if he progresses well which he has.
 
As great as he is, I don't understand the CAF obsession with wanting big names in positions we are already strong... This is a bit being linked to Cech Because we have cover.

Di Maria, Herrera, Fell, Rooney, Janujaz all play that position.. do not want at all, would further unbalance our squad, we need a winger, perhaps Delay is touted, but if Utd fans don't want Bank back, don't expect Depay to be a short term improvement, he can be infuriating with his decision making.

We need a midfield player like Koke or Schneiderlin
 
I'll park my tent here for the next while so. He's an absolutely fantastic player, and would be a great addition.
 
TooBias said:
About as legitimate as Jon Snow.
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RedorDead21 said:
Doesnt he play left side and Mata plays right side?
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I don't think they're that inflexible and Isco plays more as part of the midfield three at real whereas Mata was a number 10 till recently.

Basically I consider Isco one of the those talents that's too good to miss out on. Madrid's midfield has for me been comfortably the best I've seen this season (not seen bayern), and modric and Isco are the two that stand out from that. Like I said, his technical ability is absolutely brilliant.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
As great as he is, I don't understand the CAF obsession with wanting big names in positions we are already strong... This is a bit being linked to Cech Because we have cover.

Di Maria, Herrera, Fell, Rooney, Janujaz all play that position.. do not want at all, would further unbalance our squad, we need a winger, perhaps Delay is touted, but if Utd fans don't want Bank back, don't expect Depay to be a short term improvement, he can be infuriating with his decision making.

We need a midfield player like Koke or Schneiderlin
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Didn't he played as winger for malaga that season they had that champion league run? He can easily occupy the position of young, mata, fellaini or Herrera in our current setup and be an improvement. Great talent.
 
MJJ said:
Didn't he played as winger for malaga that season they had that champion league run? He can easily occupy the position of young, mata, fellaini or Herrera in our current setup and be an improvement. Great talent.
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I would like at least one of our wingers to be more direct. Young is a bit more direct than Mata. It helps if one of them is quicker and runs at defenders. Isco is more of a Mata type player on the wing.
 
Like our original scouting report on him... He is not a match winner!!

I don't get what benefit he could give us except a great first touch and the odd Zidane looking movements. Not enough end product for what we need right now. Atleast in Depay you have potential for a lot of goals.
 
RDCR07 said:
I would like at least one of our wingers to be more direct. Young is a bit more direct than Mata. It helps if one of them is quicker and runs at defenders. Isco is more of a Mata type player on the wing.
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Di Maria, we can put him on the right with isco left(that is if we dont have depay coming in). Once we get a ball winner to replace carrick, he can even play in a midfield trio.
 
Mainoldo said:
Like our original scouting report on him... He is not a match winner!!

I don't get what benefit he could give us except a great first touch and the odd Zidane looking movements. Not enough end product for what we need right now. Atleast in Depay you have potential for a lot of goals.
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He is one of the biggest talents in world football and has magical technique. He is a starter for the biggest club in the world and possibly been their best player this year and to add to it he has scored 5 goals and also has 10 assists to his name.

That is like saying we shouldn't take Iniesta of couple of years ago if he was available because his stats don't back up his performances on the field.

He would take this team to a much higher level than Depay would.
 
Mainoldo said:
Like our original scouting report on him... He is not a match winner!!

I don't get what benefit he could give us except a great first touch and the odd Zidane looking movements. Not enough end product for what we need right now. Atleast in Depay you have potential for a lot of goals.
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Not everything in Football is about goals. He's a sensational talent and is superb at most things you'd want from an attacker, dribbling, passing, vision, etc. He's also a very hard worker.


AngeloHenriquez said:
As great as he is, I don't understand the CAF obsession with wanting big names in positions we are already strong... This is a bit being linked to Cech Because we have cover.

Di Maria, Herrera, Fell, Rooney, Janujaz all play that position.. do not want at all, would further unbalance our squad, we need a winger, perhaps Delay is touted, but if Utd fans don't want Bank back, don't expect Depay to be a short term improvement, he can be infuriating with his decision making.

We need a midfield player like Koke or Schneiderlin
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He isnt a strict #10. Can easily play on the left and would drift inside. Would instantly be our best player in the position by quite a distance.
 
Red Pavan said:
He is one of the biggest talents in world football and has magical technique. He is a starter for the biggest club in the world and possibly been their best player this year and to add to it he has scored 5 goals and also has 10 assists to his name.

That is like saying we shouldn't take Iniesta of couple of years ago if he was available because his stats don't back up his performances on the field.
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There are a couple players in his category doesn't mean we have to get him. If he is a starter why does he want to leave?

Who said anything about stats? I said he wasn't a match winner which he isn't. For instance he wouldn't have done anything to change that result against Chelsea on Saturday. His teammate Gareth Bale could have. That's all I'm saying we need, we already have Mata that can do a similar role.
 
Varun said:
Not everything in Football is about goals. He's a sensational talent and is superb at most things you'd want from an attacker, dribbling, passing, vision, etc. He's also a very hard worker.




He isnt a strict #10. Can easily play on the left and would drift inside. Would instantly be our best player in the position by quite a distance.
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I know... But our team right now needs goals.
 
Mainoldo said:
There are a couple players in his category doesn't mean we have to get him. If he is a starter why does he want to leave?

Who said anything about stats? I said he wasn't a match winner which he isn't. For instance he wouldn't have done anything to change that result against Chelsea on Saturday. His teammate Gareth Bale could have. That's all I'm saying we need, we already have Mata that can do a similar role.
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I was making a comparison to Iniesta because i feel he is very similar to him in terms of ability. Gareth Bale needs space to operate at his highest level and the Chelsea team offered absolutely nothing and it would have stagnated Bale.

Most of Isco's goals are long rangers and many of them spectacular, so his shooting would have made a difference and his ability to create things out of nothing gives him an edge over Bale and when you compare his technique and dribbling - there is only one winner. He is similar to Hazard in that sense also and would have made a difference in whatever position he's played in.

Edit: I am not against buying Depay but if both were available for a price, i would choose Isco. Although, the strong financial situation we find ourselves in - why can't we buy both anyway?
 
Mainoldo said:
Like our original scouting report on him... He is not a match winner!!

I don't get what benefit he could give us except a great first touch and the odd Zidane looking movements. Not enough end product for what we need right now. Atleast in Depay you have potential for a lot of goals.
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Is that you Mr Souness?:confused:

He is an exceptional talent, he's the kind of player that goes on to compete for the biggest invidual awards if he's at the right club.
 
Mainoldo said:
There are a couple players in his category doesn't mean we have to get him. If he is a starter why does he want to leave?

Who said anything about stats? I said he wasn't a match winner which he isn't. For instance he wouldn't have done anything to change that result against Chelsea on Saturday. His teammate Gareth Bale could have. That's all I'm saying we need, we already have Mata that can do a similar role.
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I don't know if there is a player in the world who could single handedly unlock a quality team like Chelsea sitting deep parking the bus like that. It would have to be a team effort. Certainly not Gareth Bale, having seen him like 10 times against Atletico, this is not the type of game that suits him.
 
I don't think Real Madrid would be stupid enough to let Isco go, but I've thought that about other players in the past...

Anyway, phenomenal player and any club would be lucky to have him if he leaves.
 
No room for him, no point buying players for the sake of it that will get us nowhere in the long run. Also why would people want to move away from this 4-3-3 when it finally feels like everything is coming together?
 
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