They both play football for Spain in what is generally referred to as the midfield, that's about the extent of the similarities
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They both play football for Spain in what is generally referred to as the midfield, that's about the extent of the similarities
He is not.
I admit, I generally only watch individual players that intensely after they've been connected to us - so I can only talk generalities. I can't even debate what would be considered their normal playing position/s.
Muniain, at first glance looks more like a United player - just that bit more aggressive, and probably a higher work rate.
Isco's interesting because despite being a bit older than Muniain, last season was really his first as a first team player and he ended it by making his debut for Spain. He's an elegant player to watch, and clever, in the tradition of a David Silva.
Given the sort of prices being quoted in the Malaga bargain basement sale - Isco sounds like a very low risk gamble, that could easily pay back big time.
However, today's gossip columns are talking about Malaga trying to balance the books without selling Isco (who is a local lad there incidentally) so I guess unless he kicks up a fuss, they may be reluctant to give him away that cheap.
Why Man Utd are willing to compete with Arsenal for Malaga superkid Isco
Submitted by Chris Beattie on Tue, 08/07/2012 - 13:01
Jose Rondon was understandable. Santi Cazorla they could accept. But should crisis club Malaga make Isco their third big name sale of the summer, the La Rosaleda will surely be in danger from furious fans now seeing their squad dismantled.
The reality is that after Rondon's sale to Rubin Kazan and Cazorla's move to Arsenal, Isco's departure is looking more and more likely. Malaga still needs to sell to survive and the 20 year-old midfielder is their most saleable asset.
We revealed last week that Arsenal had asked after Isco during negotiations for Cazorla and it’s since emerged over the weekend that Manchester United have registered their interest.
He's only been a Malaga player for 12 months, but Isco is regarded as the club's great, new hope. Such has been success that Unai Emery's departure from Valencia was partly blamed on his failure to properly handle the former Los Che starlet.
Isco's progress left egg on the faces of Valencia directors who backed Emery's management of the youngster. The coach has now left for Spartak Moscow. But while €6 million at the time appeared good business for Valencia, a year on both United and Arsenal won't blink in meeting the player's €20 million buyout clause.
It's also understood Barcelona made multiple enquiries in the second-half of last season, though they went quiet as their summer market priorities became more focused.
Full name Francisco Roman Alarcon, Isco quit Valencia last summer after growing tired of the broken promises of Emery. Time and again, Isco would seek an explanation from Emery as to why his B teammates were being promoted ahead of him. And every time, Emery assured the youngster his chance would come.
Isco's talent was no secret. On debut as an 18 year-old in the Copa del Rey, he scored twice in victory over Logrones. But it was still not enough for Emery.
Upon learning of Valencia's plans to send him out on-loan to Getafe, it was the final straw for Isco and he didn't hesitate when Malaga offered an escape route. Emery mapped out his plans for him, but it was too late. Isco had heard it all before and the Valencian was lost to his hometown club.
Since then, Isco hasn't looked back. He looked a natural alongside the likes of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Cazorla and Joaquin last season as Malaga qualified for the Champions League for the first time in their history. Spain coach Vicente del Bosque took notice and selected the youngster in his pre-Euros squad for friendlies against Serbia and South Korea.
Again this week, United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has confessed concerns over how he will replace Paul Scholes. But in Isco, he may find the ideal solution. Local observers sing in unison when discussing his qualities: great on the ball, a wide passing range and the ability to find the back of the net from in and outside the penalty - though not the greatest tackler. Remind you of anyone?
His Malaga coach, Manuel Pellegrini, was delighted with Isco's progress throughout last season.
"Isco has improved a lot. In the first games, he struggled with the pace and experience of the Primera, but with more minutes he is becoming a more complete player.
"He still has more to give. We are very satisfied with his performances."
The heartbreaker for Malaga fans is that when he first arrived, Isco was seen as the player most representing the club's exciting new era under Sheikh Al-Thani. But it now appears the transfer could end up just being a footnote in Isco's glittering career - to be continued most likely in England.
Submitted by Chris Beattie on Tue, 08/07/2012 - 13:01
Jose Rondon was understandable. Santi Cazorla they could accept. But should crisis club Malaga make Isco their third big name sale of the summer, the La Rosaleda will surely be in danger from furious fans now seeing their squad dismantled.
The reality is that after Rondon's sale to Rubin Kazan and Cazorla's move to Arsenal, Isco's departure is looking more and more likely. Malaga still needs to sell to survive and the 20 year-old midfielder is their most saleable asset.
We revealed last week that Arsenal had asked after Isco during negotiations for Cazorla and it’s since emerged over the weekend that Manchester United have registered their interest.
He's only been a Malaga player for 12 months, but Isco is regarded as the club's great, new hope. Such has been success that Unai Emery's departure from Valencia was partly blamed on his failure to properly handle the former Los Che starlet.
Isco's progress left egg on the faces of Valencia directors who backed Emery's management of the youngster. The coach has now left for Spartak Moscow. But while €6 million at the time appeared good business for Valencia, a year on both United and Arsenal won't blink in meeting the player's €20 million buyout clause.
It's also understood Barcelona made multiple enquiries in the second-half of last season, though they went quiet as their summer market priorities became more focused.
Full name Francisco Roman Alarcon, Isco quit Valencia last summer after growing tired of the broken promises of Emery. Time and again, Isco would seek an explanation from Emery as to why his B teammates were being promoted ahead of him. And every time, Emery assured the youngster his chance would come.
Isco's talent was no secret. On debut as an 18 year-old in the Copa del Rey, he scored twice in victory over Logrones. But it was still not enough for Emery.
Upon learning of Valencia's plans to send him out on-loan to Getafe, it was the final straw for Isco and he didn't hesitate when Malaga offered an escape route. Emery mapped out his plans for him, but it was too late. Isco had heard it all before and the Valencian was lost to his hometown club.
Since then, Isco hasn't looked back. He looked a natural alongside the likes of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Cazorla and Joaquin last season as Malaga qualified for the Champions League for the first time in their history. Spain coach Vicente del Bosque took notice and selected the youngster in his pre-Euros squad for friendlies against Serbia and South Korea.
Again this week, United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has confessed concerns over how he will replace Paul Scholes. But in Isco, he may find the ideal solution. Local observers sing in unison when discussing his qualities: great on the ball, a wide passing range and the ability to find the back of the net from in and outside the penalty - though not the greatest tackler. Remind you of anyone?
His Malaga coach, Manuel Pellegrini, was delighted with Isco's progress throughout last season.
"Isco has improved a lot. In the first games, he struggled with the pace and experience of the Primera, but with more minutes he is becoming a more complete player.
"He still has more to give. We are very satisfied with his performances."
The heartbreaker for Malaga fans is that when he first arrived, Isco was seen as the player most representing the club's exciting new era under Sheikh Al-Thani. But it now appears the transfer could end up just being a footnote in Isco's glittering career - to be continued most likely in England.
With the fact we have missed out on Hazard, Lucas he might the player to fill that gap, an attacking/winger midfielder that Fergie is looking for.
Not another transfer saga on the horizon
Other clubs can sign a player in few days and Utd can't even in months.
It does get kind of boring!! 2 days it took PSG seal Lucas even though apparently out contract was draw up and ready to sign.Adebayor
Alba
Cazorla
Hazard
Hoilett
Javi Martinez
Modric
Sahin
Sigurðsson
Vertonghen
Just a few examples of transfers that have took a while or are still going on from this window. It's a lot more common for a transfer to take a while than to be done and dusted on the same way, particularly when the player is one a few teams are interested in and the other club and player/agent are looking for the best deal.
And with the Euros/Olympics going on this summer it has made things tougher.
FFS Why are you talking sense in the transfer forum.
Just agree with the fact that ZOMG We're screwed.
and the funny thing is what a lot of doom and gloomers are saying on here is what some are saying on various other club forums as well. When the Lucas saga was going on I was looking at the Forza Inter forums and at times it really did read like an extract from here.They were complaining about:
- not signing a midfielder
- length of time taken to sign a player (Lucas)
- not bidding high enough
Sound familiar?
Isco says he's happy to stay at Malaga and help them rebuild.
Pellegrini's supposed to have advised the owners to hang onto him if they can, because he's their best chance of coping with life-after-cash.
Pellegrini's supposed to have advised the owners to hang onto him if they can, because he's their best chance of coping with life-after-cash.
The Chilean would be wise to steer the young lad to a better club where his development could be maximized rather than flounder somewhere with so much uncertainty...Turning point for the lad, IMHO...His career could be defined by staying/going
Muppet heaven sign Sahin and Isco!
Tottenham and United tracking Isco
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...malaga-about-a-deal-for-spain-play-maker-isco
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...malaga-about-a-deal-for-spain-play-maker-isco
Cherry on top of the RVP icing.
He is an obvious one to go for. Very much a United sort of potential + some experience buy.
Malaga have rustled up just enough cash to keep the creditors at bay and give the staff the first instalment on the pay they're owed. However they're now down to 19 fit pro players and they've got CL qualifiers against Panathinaikos on the 22nd and 28th.
There's still a Liga embargo stopping them signing new players but that's expected to be cleared this week, though maybe not in time for their first Liga fixture.
Anyway, I've got a feeling that Malaga will want to keep him right up until the deadline day at least.
Popcorn anyone?
Malaga have rustled up just enough cash to keep the creditors at bay and give the staff the first instalment on the pay they're owed. However they're now down to 19 fit pro players and they've got CL qualifiers against Panathinaikos on the 22nd and 28th.
There's still a Liga embargo stopping them signing new players but that's expected to be cleared this week, though maybe not in time for their first Liga fixture.
Anyway, I've got a feeling that Malaga will want to keep him right up until the deadline day at least.
Popcorn anyone?
With all the players being pursued so feverishly this summer, Isco is one I think clubs should be lining up for
I must admit to seeing feck all of him.
Enlighten FC...sounds like you have...what's the shout?
Enlighten FC...sounds like you have...what's the shout?
Where does he play? As an attacking midfielder in central areas, a la Kagawa?
Hardly watched him play, but isn't he more of a Kagawa type of player?
Edit: Left the tab up too long
Edit: Left the tab up too long
Left sided playmaker or AM if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, this is the best way to describe him probably - for now...The thing is, his potential is quite high I believe and so no one is quite sure what he could become...Some compare him to Silva and I even think he has some Iniesta in him...I think about the next great midfielder in Spain and he's the guy I think of
Hmmm could we really be interested?
Seems like a very arsenal like player, would be suprised if we are interested but he certainly looks very good, great feet - reminds me of zidane in the way he uses his body to fool people into changing direction before dribbling away.
High praise indeed! I've not seen a lot of him but he seems very much the type of small, versatile, technically gifted midfielder that is beginning to become the most sought after type of player in the game.
Why wouldn't we be intereted in a player like that given the direction football is going in?
Want want want.
Him and Witsel and I'll spray everywhere.
Him and Witsel and I'll spray everywhere.
If he comes to England, I think it's nailed on that he would piss off back to Real/Barca if they came calling.
atleast he isn't their product, so it's not as likely to happen as it is with someone who was in their academy at one point.
Pretty much every bastard would piss off there.
We just dont seem to use the "Wing playmaker" type of players, unless he was bought to be used as a attacking midfielder but usually the wing playmakers suit more 4-3-3 systems, which we rarely seem to use recently.
I'm all for signing him if Malaga are letting him go at a cheaper price due to their debt, sounds like a promising player
I expect us to get RVP and one other. Could be anyone, maybe it will be his guy...
henriquez?
I expect us to get Henriquez, shaft him out on loan and then proceed to sign diddly-squat.
Isco's a shit name, you don't win things with shit names.
Try saying that to Bebe...
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