It will be broadcast on a global platform and since the people running it wont have to pay a huge fee for the rights the revenue from the global advertising on it should be more than enough to cover the costs.
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Is the European super league back? | United Statement: We remain committed to UEFA
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It will be broadcast on a global platform and since the people running it wont have to pay a huge fee for the rights the revenue from the global advertising on it should be more than enough to cover the costs.
Not gonna lie, I'm way more open to it than I was 2 years ago.
FIFA, UEFA, and the Premier League are all scum of the highest order. My club was in danger of state-ownership and none of them were going to stop it. City are cheating their way to multiple major trophies and nothing is being done against it. Newcastle's owner kills people for fun, commits genocide in Yemen and sentences minors to death. They've just been awarded the 2034 WC for all these great things they've done that I listed.
And there's a lot of great things European football could take from American sports, with the ESL it would be way more likely for a salary cap to be introduced, etc.
Do you really think the entities that are pushing for this are the sort that would have a single iota of interest in the idea of equalisation?
How can we know when all we have seen are a few tweets? But the potential is obviously there with more high profile European games guaranteed per season and potentially more money in the hands of those clubs from whatever way TV deals and streaming are set up.
I love football and it’s traditions, but the current bodies have been terrible custodians of the game. I don’t think it’s nailed on to be a bad thing by removing those monopolies.
They have had so long to address obvious issues of sporting integrity and cost to the consumer and they haven’t done so.
Maybe it’s time to consider that clubs and fans could benefit from a different structure.
He's a fecking vampire. feck him and other thoroughly noxious entities pretending to be the defenders of footballing integrity. This happened last time as well.
So your personal opinions then. Cool.
Beyond naive if you think a competition that is being made purely because Barcelona and Real Madrid aren't the richest clubs around anymore will let fans watch it all for free. Hell even in this free proposal, there's a paid subscription to remove ads. Do I need to explain how easy that is for them to essentially make it mandatory to pay to watch anything of worth?
Another reason this can't happen as if we're guaranteed European football every year it's almost a guarantee we'll end up like the Pelicans with current ownership. Happy to be there not to compete.
I'm naive and you are cynical.
Super league is DOA without English clubs.
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I think thats the future of the game regardless of how things change, ad free subscription or free to air ad riddled covereage.
I think that this is part (maybe not all) the reason that the glazers wont sell up. If this happened, it could easily double or triple the value of the club, maybe even more. And even if it doesnt happen, it gives big clubs more leverage to squeeze more out of the prize kitty.
FIFA/UEFA are corrupted mafia organisations so in some ways this may not be a terrible thing. But the nostalgia part of me doesnt want such dramatic changes. I like the old system where you have your national league games and you have to do well to qualify for Europe. There is a certain beauty to it that a closed league like American football doesnt offer.
I hope you are right, but I would never say never. Money and prestige will determine what happens, not us fans, we are an afterthought.
What will happen is that they will learn from how they tried to steamroll us the last time and try to find more ways to fool us into thinking we want it.
Again, that's absolute fiction that you've made up at this point.
The global revenues from watching Barcelona, Real Madrid and Juventus play each other 18 times? No German, French or English clubs and only two Spanish ones. Feyenoord have also just released a statement rejecting it. Nobody is watching this nonsense. The Super League dying three years ago had sod all to do with the courts - todays ruling makes no difference. They had a chance 3 years ago and totally fluffed their lines. It’s done.
Edit - Inter have just rejected it too. They can’t fill a CL groups worth of teams let alone 3 full leagues ffs
Just let Real Madrid, Barcelona, Italian clubs and the Saudi clubs feck off with this shit.
It entrenches Europe's elite clubs in their positions at the expense of the rest. This also unbalances the competitive advantage in domestic leagues. ESL is a terrible idea for competitiveness and a great idea to make money.
If you love football and traditions you will run from this.
Look who are founders of this and how they are connected to certain clubs. After that go on and look why they are trying to get this started and purpose of it. It is not hard when you got internet.
I meant to say without.
The English clubs could snake their way in, but I'm saying the ESL won't be as valuable without PL clubs. The reach and advertising potential of having English clubs is just too valuable. I'm sure Perez knows this.
I like the European Cup trophy and all that jazz...however what's the issue if there's meritocracy? And it won't compete against the Prem will it? Personally as much as Iike European competition, it's all about domestic rivalries but unless it impacts that...?
The clubs are coming out with these statements for pure PR. They know they will get criticism so are just being safe for now.
Exactly there is far too much hyperbolic opposition to it when in realty it's just an alternative to the UCL. People just don't like change.
Agreed. You end up with the Glazers in perpetuity. There is no reason for ambition.
I doubt this will go ahead as some kind of rival competition to the CL.
It seems very unlikely.
Much more likely that the people behind this count on getting UEFA on board in some shape or other.
And UEFA will undoubtedly get on board if the price is right.
The alternative scenarios are these:
a) UEFA stand firm and somehow manage to keep the big clubs on their side.
b) UEFA stand firm and manage to keep some big clubs on their side (effectively leading to a schism: the old CL versus the new Super League).
Both a) and b) seems feckin' unlikely to me.
(Well, that is: if we think whoever is behind this is serious. And I'm sorry to say they probably are. So, yeah.)
It seems very unlikely.
Much more likely that the people behind this count on getting UEFA on board in some shape or other.
And UEFA will undoubtedly get on board if the price is right.
The alternative scenarios are these:
a) UEFA stand firm and somehow manage to keep the big clubs on their side.
b) UEFA stand firm and manage to keep some big clubs on their side (effectively leading to a schism: the old CL versus the new Super League).
Both a) and b) seems feckin' unlikely to me.
(Well, that is: if we think whoever is behind this is serious. And I'm sorry to say they probably are. So, yeah.)
Tell me, on what merits should clubs join this league? And if you are let say Red Star Belgrade or HJK from Finland and want to join by winning their league, are you allowed?
If you are in blue group, if you come last. Do you get relegated and to where? This is not close to alternative to the UCL We know what the purpose is.
Whatever happens it's clear uefa doesn't have the tide of public opinion on it's side like the last time.
I'm surprised not to hear more backlash from Real Madrid fans- i mean the champions league is your fecking competition! you practically own it because of your brilliance and history. Yes you could start in a new competition but still, it's kind of throwing away such an amazing heritage by devaluing it.
From what I've gathered the top two ESL leagues won't have promotion from the domestic game...but the third one will. Not sure sure that'll be fun to watch.
The only thing that is currently wrong with it in my opinion.
Domestic winners go into it yes.
What better word is there for it than 'alternative'?
It’s virtually disconnected from the domestic leagues. If it was in existence 10 years ago, Leicester’s reward for the greatest overachievement in league football history would be… entry into the third tier European competition.
Whereas Chelsea could finish 12th like they did last season and as long as the finished 14th out of 16 team, they’d play top tier European football the following season.
It might actually be worse than their first proposal.
You're that good that you're now replying to your own comments
Yeah. Eite clubs get richer resulting in an even bigger gap between them and the rest. Can't be good for the domestic game.
I agree that this in particular is a poorly thought-out idea but in reality, what you end up with is the best teams playing in the main competition, I would like that personally. How they get there initially is not good but there is a way of tweaking this to please the majority I feel.
Yep. I think you're right.
I'm not presenting my opinion as a fact that will definitely happen. The obvious difference..
So your only problem with it is its fundamental structure? The entire reason the domestic leagues feed into the bottom is to disconnect it from the domestic leagues.
For all of the problems of the current system, of which there are many, it’s based on how well you perform in your league. Which UEFA will always protect as they oversee those leagues. ESL has precisely the opposite incentives.
ESL = El ClaSico League feat. Juventus as The Gimp
Now we have another competition to own!
Also: meh. Madrid was one of the founders of the CL/EC in the first place. Eventually I don’t think that much will change for fans with the ESL. If it ever gets off the ground that is. All the ‘I’ll drop football and go watch some sunday league” is grade A bullshit and about as believable as the ‘boycott Qatar WC!’ stuff.
When it comes down to it, all those people will just tune in when their club is playing. Again: assuming this all goes through.
I’m much more interested in the details mentioned 2y ago. Iirc the idea was automated offside like at the WC and VAR audio to be broadcast.
Great, than they can go directly into Star League. I guess that is what you mean.
Surely UEFA have to boot Real and Barcelona out and replace them with a true ambassador of European football, Manchester United?