Surprised in @VivaObertan and @Ole'sgunnarwin . You would have thought with usernames like theirs that they would have sounder judgement.
Is Mainoo the real deal?
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agree. He’s hardly mentioned compared to rice as he’s very European in his ball recycling and short game passing. They didn’t appreciate Scholes and they won’t have Mainoo as their MOTM very often even though he’s setting tempo and keeping possession contributing heavily to the results.
We had 26% possession and City had 19 shots. It wasn't a dominant performance but luckily things came together for us on the day. Think we were 9-1 odds to win it as well. City are also not as good as they were previous season.
I don't think it's that debatable that the last 8 months has been some of the worst football we've ever seen at the club. We were 7th when Mainoo made his debut and finished 8 so I wouldn't say there was any improvement to the team overall. We had a negative goal difference until the end of the season.
He’s a massive building block for the team for the next decade. He didn’t cost 70 plus million either. He’s operating in a dysfunctional team for sure for now. Pair him with similar quality and we don’t have to worry for once about the centre of midfield anytime soon. For a kid his age, he’s a phenomenon.
I love him that much I think he will have me supporting England tomorrow night.
The ones who are saying people who voted «patience, give hime time»(like me) are wrong and should hang their head in shame, will, imo, also be among the ones who are less patient when he has an inevitable poor spell.
With his demeanor/style and not extraordinary defensive efforts he’s surely gonna be feasted upon when he has poorer spells. I for one promise to also have patience with him in his poor spells whilst he is young.
With his demeanor/style and not extraordinary defensive efforts he’s surely gonna be feasted upon when he has poorer spells. I for one promise to also have patience with him in his poor spells whilst he is young.
The boy is as real as any deal gets.
I love how when he's on the ball he always looks annoyed by his surroundings. Even against players 10 years older than him
"You guys are shit at this, here let me show you".
"You guys are shit at this, here let me show you".
I agree whole heartedly. That’s a drum I’ve been beating for a long time. I think he is absolutely the real deal. Most complete midfielder I have seen at the club in a long time, and a massive, massive talent. But patience and giving him time is exactly what we should be doing. He can’t continue his trajectory as smoothly and impressively as he has forever. There will be a dip at some point, and when that point comes, it just requires a little patience. Unfortunately you just know that the people who are engaging in the most hyperbole at this point, are the same that will forth at the mouth and call him shit when he first stutters. It’s just an immutable law of online fandom.
One of the worst takes I've read on this forum.
Mainoo himself was both individually and tactically fine for us last season. Of course we can point to certain instances where players will make mistakes which is normal at most clubs. But the majority of the players in attack (Bruno, Garnacho, Hojlund, Amad etc) were fine tactically and carried out their duties, especially out of possession. We were never going to effectively build play back from the back with both Shaw and Martinez missing most of the season through injury. But to control possession at a high level in the present day EPL, you must as a team have CBs who are on par with your midfielders on the ball.
The issue wasn't the tactics but rather having a backline who didn't seem to buy into the idea of backing the forwards, fullbacks and midfielders to press high as collective unit. It's no surprise to me that they're going after CBs in the current transfer window because it will help us play the game higher up the pitch in the opponent's half and improve both our attack and defense, which opens up the scenario where opponents struggle to get out of their own half. And that's because the high press from the front and rest defense at the back make a out ball for the opposition more difficult.
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Keep on digging the big hole you are in, you'll end up in Australia soon enough and I'm sure @wibble will set you straight there
There was an Arsenal fan on here trying his level hardest to claim he was average not too long ago.
Mainoo scoring the FA Final winner and the Euro Final winner in his debut year. You heard it here first.
He heard from me.I think Wayne Rooney beat you to that prediction
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Very true.
However, there is a direct relationship between United having a porous midfield for the vast majority of the season and being one of the players that made up for that midfield, though.
Mainoo is a brilliant talent, but that has somehow morphed into him now being beyond any criticism at all. His positioning is can be very erratic at times. Casemiro had a poor season, but he was frequently left alone to deal with opposition attacks.
Mainoo can be the real deal and still be a major factor in United having their worst ever PL season. Both can be true at the same time.
Sack ten hag, sell Mainoo
What are you under the impression United’s midfield looked like before Mainoo was introduced?! Ffs.
Struggling, just lacking in mobility and physicality
A game where the other team has almost 70% possession is never going to be his time to shine, to be fair.
Sell him he’s finished
He has named man of the match in a final where the other team had 75 % possession in his previous club game.
He just doesn't know how to make himself available for a pass.
Same as McTominay. I think there's actually a bit of a systematic issue with the way we develop midfielders at this club.
Same as McTominay. I think there's actually a bit of a systematic issue with the way we develop midfielders at this club.
You little shit
Anyone drawing conclusions on a single game need to learn a bit about football.
Based on this game, very few England players look good. Hell the whole tournament some very good players have mostly been poor
Based on this game, very few England players look good. Hell the whole tournament some very good players have mostly been poor
Yes, fantastic player
He's just turned 19 with only 1 season of pro football behind him and playing in a Euro Final.
A massive talent, give him a break ffs.
A massive talent, give him a break ffs.
Struggling to get into the game. And that’s okay, it happens.
Like that he doesn’t look fazed regardless, still playing his game his way.
Like that he doesn’t look fazed regardless, still playing his game his way.
He definitely needs a physical presence beside him next season that we currently don’t have. I hope the club and manager give him the platform he needs.
Every time I watch him play, I feel he is extremely overrated on Redcafe. Yes, his turning and dribbling is world class already, but I feel like all other aspects of his game are average or worse
Needs to be subbed, been quite terrible.
Its not as his team mates are playing well. Tough game for him and he will learn.
I doubt we'll find anyone willing to pay a tranfer fee for him after this. If we are lucky we might find someone that will take him on a free. 20k a week, what a waste.
Most of the team has struggled to get into the game. Rice has been utterly useless not just tonight but for most of the tournament.
The fanbase is very tense due to the year long issues. Many are desperate for anything remotely close to being worldclass, players, talents, form whatever. This will always lead to polarization. I agree, Mainoo, as good as he is, is cooked a little too hot around here. Which is a bit of a shame, he is fantastic for what he is, there is no need to go overboard (in my view)
He was worse than them really.