Is Lingard as good as gone? | Contract extended by one year

I would like to see him sold to lighten up the United's salary, and to get some money for him to put towards future transfers while he is still valuable.
 
If someone can take Sanchez and Young off our hands, then I am confident there is a club that will want Jesse.
 
Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell said:
Tbh he should just go to mls, get a decent salary and see out his days in the sun. I'm sure Becks would give him a game at Miami
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There's no club in MLS that is going to want Jesse Lingard as a designated player. Outside the DP category, an MLS salary will be FAR below anything he could make by staying either in the Championship or EPL. He wouldn't even be a top player in MLS and he has zero name or brand recogniztion in the US.
 
I just cannot see any other PL side wanting him with the form he has displayed since the last World Cup.
 
PieCrust said:
There's no club in MLS that is going to want Jesse Lingard as a designated player. Outside the DP category, an MLS salary will be FAR below anything he could make by staying either in the Championship or EPL. He wouldn't even be a top player in MLS and he has zero name or brand recogniztion in the US.
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If they want somebody who could dance and design or even sing they would go for Pharrell.
 
Bondi77 said:
I just cannot see any other PL side wanting him with the form he has displayed since the last World Cup.
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He'd still walk into the mid/lower table teams, I think he'd actually do alright away from United.

It's clear he needs a change and a fresh challenge, he's too comfortable here. He still has the body he's just forgotten how to play effectively.
 
Adam-Utd said:
He'd still walk into the mid/lower table teams, I think he'd actually do alright away from United.

It's clear he needs a change and a fresh challenge, he's too comfortable here. He still has the body he's just forgotten how to play effectively.
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Do you think he would be a regular for Wolves or Villa?
I cannot see it.
 
Bondi77 said:
Do you think he would be a regular for Wolves or Villa?
I cannot see it.
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Yeah I think they'd both happily take him personally.

Even teams below that though like West Ham, Brighton, Palace etc.
 
Adam-Utd said:
He'd still walk into the mid/lower table teams, I think he'd actually do alright away from United.

It's clear he needs a change and a fresh challenge, he's too comfortable here. He still has the body he's just forgotten how to play effectively.
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agree. Even when playing well, United fans didn’t like him. He’s a good PL level player.

he did well for us when we didn’t have better options. It’s not like he was keeping great players out of the side! It’s not his fault that he’s not better - he’s done very well to make good use of his talent.

someone like West Ham would do well to pick him up.
 
People are forgetting that he was a good player in the Moyes/LvG days.

He’s just gone wayward Outside of football and probably hasn’t handled it the best. Unfortunately I think there is no space for him now at United unless he’s willing to perform better and spend time on the bench.

I personally think he should look at France or Germany. Maybe even Spain
 
He's a good player. Not good enough for our first team now but still good. Could use a move.
 
Bondi77 said:
Do you think he would be a regular for Wolves or Villa?
I cannot see it.
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Honestly, I think he'd fit in well at those two clubs. The problem with him being at United is he's become a bit of a meme and coupled with the increased pressure and expectations, he's in quite a bad place at the club.
 
I cant understand Ole wanting to keep him and still after all this time think hes a valuable squad player. Is it misguided loyalty because hes been here since a kid? The fact no one has enquired about buying him should be enough to show his true value.
 
DanClancy said:
Looking at Palace last night he'd improve them.
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In their counter attacking side, a front 4 of Zaha/Lingard/Eze + striker would be pretty decent.

Jesse can still run well and carry the ball, and he's always looked better when running into space.

They actually pay decent wages too so he wouldn't be losing too much if he did, i'm sure he'd rather play than waste his prime on the bench.
 
I think clubs would be interested in loaning him but i think the wages are an issue , I’d be thinking Utd would want up to 50% of his wages covered which would be £50K a week. For a club like Palace , Brighton , Sheff Utd it’s a lot of money which you mightn’t see a return on.

He’s shit around good players how bad will he be around average players ?
 
He has been very poor for two seasons now. It's hard to flip a switch and just become the same player again, even then he was a player who showed flashes but was never a consistent performer. For that reason I don't think he'll improve the likes of West Ham and these mid table teams. His biggest quality nowadays is his movement but that movement isn't particularly good, never takes him behind defenses, never even in positions to do anything other than recycle possession with a safe pass to the nearest player.

His high wages and lack of output will make him a big gamble for those clubs. At 28 I just don't see how extending his contract makes sense, I don't see him fitting into a wage structure at a club suited to his talents.
 
That’s the issue - he’s a very big risk currently for any club given his wages and lack of any productivity for 2 years. I think we’ll need to heavily subsidise any wages for a loan for the rest of the season and hope he then performs well. We might then be able to sell him in the Summer.

edit - obviously, I’d have personally not extended because I think the prospects of getting a decent fee are remote, so will be a good test of the club’s “auto-extend” policy for players who aren’t playing regularly.
 
PieCrust said:
There's no club in MLS that is going to want Jesse Lingard as a designated player. Outside the DP category, an MLS salary will be FAR below anything he could make by staying either in the Championship or EPL. He wouldn't even be a top player in MLS and he has zero name or brand recogniztion in the US.
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He could definitely find clubs and have decent money to live on, in a nice city. I didn't say he'd be a star or marquee signing.
 
UmbroDays said:
People are forgetting that he was a good player in the Moyes/LvG days.

He’s just gone wayward Outside of football and probably hasn’t handled it the best. Unfortunately I think there is no space for him now at United unless he’s willing to perform better and spend time on the bench.

I personally think he should look at France or Germany. Maybe even Spain
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Was on loan in the championship. Started playing regularly for the club in LvG's second season
 
Yeah.We have a much better squad now and I don’t think Lingard adds much value to this squad.Would make sense to move him on next summer..,
 
Alemar said:
Sounds strange.
1. United doesn’t want to weaken a rival?
2. Lingard won’t be playing Euro anyway
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Good one. No one seemed to have noticed.

crossy1686 said:
Bloodyhell, Nice have now publically said they're not interested in Lingard...

http://sportwitness.co.uk/without-a...r-united-players-signing-for-club-in-january/
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Is anyone surprised.

El Presidente said:
Implying that he’ll do a job as a backup when he won’t. He adds feck all to this team. Currently he is a way overpaid mascot.
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He's paid more than Vidic, Evra, Scholes and Giggs were. Sure, inflation, but still. #Judgewardthings
 
UmbroDays said:
People are forgetting that he was a good player in the Moyes/LvG days.

He’s just gone wayward Outside of football and probably hasn’t handled it the best. Unfortunately I think there is no space for him now at United unless he’s willing to perform better and spend time on the bench.

I personally think he should look at France or Germany. Maybe even Spain
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Don't think he played a game under Moyes.
 
An attacking player playing for one of the most high profile clubs in the league. Lingard had a superb spell during 17/18 where he scored 7 league goals in 700mins. That was by far his best form and he got rewarded with his famous contract.

The rest of his career at United? 11 goals in 6749mins, resulting in a goal every 614mins. For an attacking player, it's garbage and before people defend him and mention assists. Well he was fecking terrible at that too, 12 league assists in 7,445mins.
 
He should go to the MLS. He won’t cut it at the top leagues in Europe. He’d enjoy the lifestyle out in America too. I know he’s still youngish but a break away like that might do him good.
 
Leroy The Red said:
He should go to the MLS. He won’t cut it at the top leagues in Europe. He’d enjoy the lifestyle out in America too. I know he’s still youngish but a break away like that might do him good.
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He's unlikely to leave the country. Probably stay around Midlands even if he can. Due to family.
 
Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell said:
He could definitely find clubs and have decent money to live on, in a nice city. I didn't say he'd be a star or marquee signing.
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I would agree with that if the league was somewhere in Europe, just not MLS. Wages are shit in MLS if you are not a DP and their salary cap structure is completely different than any other league. The maximum a non-DP player can make is something like $10k / week.

It's players like Thierry Henry, Kaka, Robbie Keane, David Villa, Andrea Pirlo, Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and David Beckham that get on the DP list. Lingard is light years behind those players and doesn't have the marketing value for a club to even consider signing him and making up funds that way.

I know people on this forum like to slag off MLS as some place where anyone can go and make a ton of money, but that only is true for what were once elite level players that can still perform in a lower quality league and sell tickets and shirts, i.e., not Jesse Lingard.

That said, for regular folks $10k/week is an amazing salary, but even Lingard can command a much higher wage across almost every tier 2 league in Europe and he still might be able to scam a contract from a desperate EPL club.
 
Looks like there is a tussle going on. He wants to go on a free and our club admin don’t want to let him do so - that’s why the extension and then dropping from squad to force his hand.
 
The club have really forced his hand here. He probably thought he could chill, collect the big wage then leave for nothing and collect a nice signing on fee. Now he’ll have to sacrifice the signing on fee bonus and leave as soon as possible if he wants to play any time soon.
His options of clubs will limit aswell because who’s going to want to pay a fee if he doesn’t lower his wage demands.
I have no sympathy for players trying to run their huge contracts down whilst not contributing.
 
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