Is Lingard as good as gone? | Contract extended by one year

Renegade said:
The club have really forced his hand here. He probably thought he could chill, collect the big wage then leave for nothing and collect a nice signing on fee. Now he’ll have to sacrifice the signing on fee bonus and leave as soon as possible if he wants to play any time soon.
His options of clubs will limit aswell because who’s going to want to pay a fee if he doesn’t lower his wage demands.
I have no sympathy for players trying to run their huge contracts down whilst not contributing.
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If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.
 
adexkola said:
If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.
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Yeah, I mean all he’s going to miss out on now is a 20-minute sub appearance every couple of months. Big deal. There’s no forcing his hand going on. Both parties signed a contract - that’s when hands were forced.
 
adexkola said:
If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.
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Could he really afford to go 2 and a half years without game time at his age?

I find it hard to see any club in the PL gambling on him if he does what you suggest.
 
NYAS said:
Yeah, I mean all he’s going to miss out on now is a 20-minute sub appearance every couple of months. Big deal. There’s no forcing his hand going on. Both parties signed a contract - that’s when hands were forced.
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Further proof that Ed is a Grade A idiot an that we need someone with some semblance of a brain to take over this part of his job
 
adexkola said:
If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.
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A player running a contract down before reaching 30 is mental to me. It would be career suicide, he’d be approaching no first team football in 3 years if he did that.
 
adexkola said:
If I was him I'd run out the contract.

He won't get that salary somewhere else. Best to chill and collect the sign on fee bonus at the end of it all.
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the vast majority of footballers don’t think like that.

whatever you think of Lingard, I don’t think that’s his mentality at all.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
the vast majority of footballers don’t think like that.

whatever you think of Lingard, I don’t think that’s his mentality at all.
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I agree, it's a short career. There are rare cases with some players which that might be the case but Lingard I'm sure isn't one of them.
 
United's squad players must be the worst clients to represent on the transfer market...they are shit, over-payed, and not match fit!

Literally who would want the likes of Jesse...he wouldn't be any use in a dogfight for survival, or a club challenging for trophies, and a mid-table team would have more sense than to waste a huge amount of money on his wage. Just stop extending them with these silly contract clauses.
 
Renegade said:
A player running a contract down before reaching 30 is mental to me. It would be career suicide, he’d be approaching no first team football in 3 years if he did that.
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He'd be further securing his finances. If I was in his position I wouldn't move to a worse situation finance wise just to play football, but that's me

Idxomer said:
Could he really afford to go 2 and a half years without game time at his age?

I find it hard to see any club in the PL gambling on him if he does what you suggest.
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I find it hard to see any club in the PL gambling on him as is right now. Who would buy him, and how much do you see them paying him?

ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
the vast majority of footballers don’t think like that.

whatever you think of Lingard, I don’t think that’s his mentality at all.
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This is true.

I wouldn't think any worse of Lingard if he decided to chill and stack. We signed the contract with him voluntarily, and also decided to extend it by a year.
 
adexkola said:
He'd be further securing his finances. If I was in his position I wouldn't move to a worse situation finance wise just to play football, but that's me



I find it hard to see any club in the PL gambling on him as is right now. Who would buy him, and how much do you see them paying him?



This is true.

I wouldn't think any worse of Lingard if he decided to chill and stack. We signed the contract with him voluntarily, and also decided to extend it by a year.
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I’d think less of any supposed professional athlete who chose to ‘chill and stack’ in a career as short as a footballers.

Amazed anyone wouldn’t.
 
It's a shame Lingard has fallen off a cliff because we do with a good squad player who can fill in one of the front three position and isn't Dan James.

but he's lost. Maybe for personal reasons but we and he need to part ways.
 
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He is gone. He won't be getting anywhere near full contract amount as some of it will be appearance based and goal/assist based.

We need him and Jones/Rojo gone to free up money to buy replacements.
 
Robbie Boy said:
How this guy has amassed 210 appearances for us is baffling.
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It's because he was playing during a time when we averaged 4th-5th place.
Under SAF, we were averaged 1st-2nd. In those teams, Lingard would not have amassed so many appearances.
The guy needs to leave for his own good. I can't believe that he feels good about staying at home and not getting any game time.
 
sunama said:
It's because he was playing during a time when we averaged 4th-5th place.
Under SAF, we were averaged 1st-2nd. In those teams, Lingard would not have amassed so many appearances.
The guy needs to leave for his own good. I can't believe that he feels good about staying at home and not getting any game time.
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Still a crazy amount of games considering he played well in a very small percentage of them.

Apparently West Ham are in for him on loan. He needs to leave for his own good.
 
It's no surprise Lingard has been disregarded in a sense. When the team needs to go up a level you cannot keep players who don't have as much to give as pivotal first team members. That's why eventually the club will also have to reshuffle the defensive side of our midfield (Scott, Fred, Matic) because aside Pogba no one beyond a 6 / 8 is good enough in possession for us to play and impose our game as a top team.

I also don't see Solskjaer as a whimsical coach who can bring the best out of an average player something that SAF and very few managers are gifted with being able to accomplish.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Still a crazy amount of games considering he played well in a very small percentage of them.

Apparently West Ham are in for him on loan. He needs to leave for his own good.
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Even though he wasn't particularly good in many of them, there was a good long stretch where the team as a whole played better when he was there than when he wasn't. Of course that was more about how poor the players replacing him were, but still. We should have been signing better players, but we didn't do that so he did deserve to start considering what we did have.
 
Hopefully he gets the loan move to West Ham and finds some form before making the deal permanent in the summer. I’ll always remember his FA Cup final winning goal in extra time and wish him well. Scored quite a few great goals for us looking back but isn’t quite at the level we need going forward.
 
He needs to play otherwise his clothing line will hemorrhage even more money. He needs the fans and at a lower club, he might do a bit better.
 
He might be useful in the Europa to help rest others. But realistically you can't see him starting a league game, which has to feel a huge come down for him.

But everyone knows he's had family issues, so will he really fancy a move 200 miles away?
 
He could be a very good player once he gets to 24/25 years old. Far too early to write him off.
 
MadDogg said:
Even though he wasn't particularly good in many of them, there was a good long stretch where the team as a whole played better when he was there than when he wasn't. Of course that was more about how poor the players replacing him were, but still. We should have been signing better players, but we didn't do that so he did deserve to start considering what we did have.
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Well yeah, it was clearly our own fault for letting it get to the point where we needed to be starting Lingard.
 
I think he would be useful for teams outside the top 6. A lot of the time he was awful for us but in his defence, he played for us when we were shite.....yes i realise that we were shite due in part to having players like him playing but it's not all on him obviously. That said, he should have been sold years ago. When liverpool can get 25m for reserves who have barely kicked a ball for them, then why cant we get reasonable money for an english international (over priced commodity that they tend to be).

As for his clothing line. I have zero sympathy. Was earning more in 2 weeks that the prime minister of your country in 1 year not enough that he had to start a side hustle? Seriously. Getting better at football should be the one and only focus.
 
Falcow said:
As for his clothing line. I have zero sympathy. Was earning more in 2 weeks that the prime minister of your country in 1 year not enough that he had to start a side hustle? Seriously. Getting better at football should be the one and only focus.
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Players don't spend 16 hours a day on football and 8 hours sleeping. They have a lot of spare time. Putting some of that spare time into a clothing line instead of playing computer games, drinking, hiring escorts, surfing the web, etc isn't exactly the worst thing. I highly doubt it's anything to do with the money, it's just a bit of fun he has on the side.
 
MadDogg said:
Players don't spend 16 hours a day on football and 8 hours sleeping. They have a lot of spare time. Putting some of that spare time into a clothing line instead of playing computer games, drinking, hiring escorts, surfing the web, etc isn't exactly the worst thing. I highly doubt it's anything to do with the money, it's just a bit of fun he has on the side.
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You can be sure he put feck all-time into his clothes line other than money to fund it.
Hes hardly Alan Sugars next apprentice.
 
McGrathsipan said:
You can be sure he put feck all-time into his clothes line other than money to fund it.
Hes hardly Alan Sugars next apprentice.
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That's probably true for a lot of players who have this kind of thing (like Zlatan for example, and likely Pogba), but Lingard seems interested enough in it I reckon he's being a little more hands-on. It still won't be much of course, but a bit more than most players do.
 
It's good for Lingard that he gets the chance for first team football at West Ham. I think he'll be good for them. I find it embarrassing that so many fans from United have treated him so badly. Lingard is a true Unitedfan and has been since childhood. I have no doubt he wants the club. I will especially remember him for the important goals at Wimbley. It's not Lingard's fault if his talent is not quite good enough for the first team at United. You can not blame him for that.
 
Whoever he goes to, there should be a clause stating he must play when we play them. It'll probably be his best game for us .
 
He should have left 18 months ago really, he's been effectively stuck in limbo. He's been replaced by better players in his position, and no club has come in for him.

I hope he can go to West Ham, play for 6 months and re-discover his form. When he was in form, he was an adequate squad player, but he was never going to be an elite clubs number 10,
 
I think Southampton, Aston Villa and Crystal Palace would be more suitable move for him than West Ham. Either way, whichever team, wish him good luck.
 
Signing Lingard is such a West Ham move. I can't imagine a more fitting club to end up signing him than them. It just fits with their MO.
 
He isn’t going to start West Ham is he? He’s not starting ahead of Bowen on the right nor is he a better number 10 than Lanzini. Effectively, he’ll be going there as utility cover. He’ll get more games than he will for us but I’m not convinced it will be enough to put him in the shop window.

If I were the club, I’d be looking to persuade him to join a bottom half team, where he should start most matches and give himself a chance to find some form. Somewhere like WBA might be a good option.
 
Hester_manc said:
It's good for Lingard that he gets the chance for first team football at West Ham. I think he'll be good for them. I find it embarrassing that so many fans from United have treated him so badly. Lingard is a true Unitedfan and has been since childhood. I have no doubt he wants the club. I will especially remember him for the important goals at Wimbley. It's not Lingard's fault if his talent is not quite good enough for the first team at United. You can not blame him for that.
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Yes, you can. The talent IS there to be a decent squad member, the dedication and application isnt.
 
I wish him well. I remember being there when he scored 2 vs Burnley to bring us level in Zlatans last game. Sadly that was his last real meaningful contribution.
 
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