Yeah, the chances are slim, for sure. I don't see many teams really wanting him. Maybe Sheffield United or Brentford, but that's all I can think of. I think he has a better chance afterwards, but again, if he isn't playing much, his value's only going to drop (unless a Conte-like manager/head coach comes in for him).
Is Lingard as good as gone? | Contract extended by one year
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Yeah, the chances are slim, for sure. I don't see many teams really wanting him. Maybe Sheffield United or Brentford, but that's all I can think of. I think he has a better chance afterwards, but again, if he isn't playing much, his value's only going to drop (unless a Conte-like manager/head coach comes in for him).
That's the way I see it too, I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave in January either, even if its on loan with obligation to buy in the summer.
Do we see it often that a player extends a contract just to be sold/loaned soon after ?
Not sure are some of you for real or.
He hasn't extended his contract per say, the club has the right to trigger the extension themselves. So I guess we'll soon find out
When people kept on about him going abroad it was baffling.
He has all these well documented family issues, so was never going to uproot them for abroad.
Our board love to do these extensions so the balance sheet looks higher. But to us it seems a little bizarre to say the least.
He has all these well documented family issues, so was never going to uproot them for abroad.
Our board love to do these extensions so the balance sheet looks higher. But to us it seems a little bizarre to say the least.
Who would a player who has held down a spot at United, was a starter for England not too long ago, and is still at good age, potentially improve if he can get into some sort of form again? You say it like I need to justify something, but it's not too difficult to imagine it's quite possible.
My main point is that he in no way as bad as some make out, and he has always seemed to be an easy target, now we have extended his contract, most likely for resale value, and the same old nonsense comes out, he's not that bad, in fact at times he's been quite good, and will find a home at decent club hopefully, will probaly find some form again, and United might get a decent fee, he may even come in handy before the end of the season for us at some point yet.
By far. Historians will review the year 2020 and will argue about the pandemic and the USAs disastrous election, among other things, but that will only be for 2nd place behind this atrocity.
Feck sake.
Seems like we're spending more millions in wages for a smaller return if any. Should've been off the books already like a few others saving 10s of millions.
If he’s so good you wouldn’t dodging the question. If he’s so good we would all be seeing it.
I mean, you could just answered the question put to you. Dodging only further puts your opinion in the highly questionable category. So do you wanna take another stab at it?
People need to stop banging on about his fluke purple patch in 17/18.
It only lasted about 6 or 7 weeks and it was 3 fecking years ago.
He's been absolutely appalling since.
It only lasted about 6 or 7 weeks and it was 3 fecking years ago.
He's been absolutely appalling since.
Fabulous response
In a thread full of histrionics and complete utter nonesense, this response to the spoilt brats is the best by far
Have we ever sold a player profitably when we extended the contract by a year? Darmian is the only one I can think of and I think we only got about £1.5 million for him.
That's such shite. Matic may not be a world beater but he is a solid, class and often integral part of our mid. No way comparable to Lingard or Jones.
Joke's on both of you. It's pretty obvious Elvis was wumming.Fabulous response
In a thread full of histrionics and complete utter nonesense, this response to the spoilt brats is the best by far
Peak Lingard still gets nowhere near our first 11.
I did really if you read between the lines, and l'm not going to make a list the clearly poor clubs currently in the premiership that would take a chance on Lingard just for you, so move on.
2020 delivering one last sucker punch.
Agreed. He's got much more value than Rojo and Jones.
The Jones contract was worse than the Rojo one also. At least the latter was a squad player at the time of his injury. Jones was injured as per usual.
Jesse could be a PL squad player somewhere but nowhere near man utd quality
Why did he hire a new agent then if he was content to not move? Especially one like Mino? Y'all are letting your hate for him cloud your reasoning.
The response was great irrespective and could be aimed at a number of posters in this thread, really made me laugh
Woodward is an accountant and always will be. The only thing that enters his head is protecting the value of an asset that can make money for his bosses. They will slap an unrealistic price tag on him and he will still be here at the end of his contract and will go for free anyway.
He could have hired for that or the possibility to renegotiate his contract. Raiola isn't about players leaving clubs exclusively, he works on contract extensions too you know
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No, you didn’t. I asked what teams and player in those teams lingard displaces. You have no answer other than “this is beneath me”, which a weird stance to take. If you didn’t want to join the conversation it’s pretty weird to enter it. You’re two posts in now trying to avoid supporting your claim that he would improve a lot of PL teams. Just comes across as a weak position. If you’re happy with that, so be it.
Why would I list teams for you? It's obvious that a Lingard who can find some form again is good enough for alot of prem teams, he is not a Champioship player if that's what you're getting at.
Maybe make a list of teams currently in the bottom half that wouldn't want him to justify your point? Which would obviously be them all, but that can't be the case.
Have you always been a scout or is that recent?
Aye because Greenwood and Cavani don’t exist.
I got it, kind of thought my comment was dripping with sarcasm too, I will work on that. @M Bison is right though, from some of the responses you would think that the extension was the worst thing that happened in 2020.
Maybe a mod could add a poll: Was JL’s extension in the top 5 worst things to happen in the world in 2020? Would be interesting, don’t you think?
(That was sarcasm, again).
I didn’t make any claims, mate. You did. Back it up or don’t, but this attitude isn’t doing you any favours.
It’s clear Lingard has been extended simply to get some sort of a fee in January or most likely the summer, he’s a youth product so whatever we get is a profit anyway.
He’d be a good signing for Newcastle or Southampton or West Ham and even for pretty much any side abroad outside of the top three teams in each of the European leagues i.e La Liga, Serie A and Bundesliga.
I don’t think it’s unrealistic to get £10-£15 million for Lingard as he's 27 years old, an experienced international who’s played in a World Cup and the Champions League so fingers crossed someone takes a punt on him but he’s done at United and not good enough for where we want to be.
He’d be a good signing for Newcastle or Southampton or West Ham and even for pretty much any side abroad outside of the top three teams in each of the European leagues i.e La Liga, Serie A and Bundesliga.
I don’t think it’s unrealistic to get £10-£15 million for Lingard as he's 27 years old, an experienced international who’s played in a World Cup and the Champions League so fingers crossed someone takes a punt on him but he’s done at United and not good enough for where we want to be.
Yeah he used to make very good runs from behind into the box and he was scoring some important goals aswell
It seemed like he had turned a corner and his movement and on-the ball decision had improved. Maybe the system Mourinho used him in that improved him.
I don't know why Ole can't get the best out of him
You say if he can find form, but his last bit of decent form was 7 weeks, 3 years ago, in the current climate who is going to take that kind of gamble, and it is a gamble.in the form he has been in for the last 3 years he improves nobody in the top flight.
A new contract when he barely played? Makes sense. Great leverage. Silly Bruno Fernandes. Should have not played and he'd have already gotten more money already.
We are 2 injuries away from needing him. Sounds a stretch but this season is fecked.
Bizarre decision from both the club and the player. I actually think Lingard at his best is a useful player to have in the squad but the guy has 0 appearances in either the PL and CL and hardly ever even makes the bench anymore. Surely he could get himself a move to a Brighton and revive his career.
I don’t see the point at all. We're basically paying someone to do nothing which to me is worse than making a 2 million at best profit in a years time. We literally pissed away millions by keeping Darmian here an extra year (to play 2 games) and not selling Romero this summer. You also have to keep in mind in a years time, clubs still wouldn't have recovered from the effects of COVID and who is going to pay a decent fee for a 28 year old whose been a non entity for a season and a half on high wages?
Good. I'm sure he'll be at his best again soon, we'll need him to be there for us for the title challenge, It's a long season. Correct decision.
Did I say something wrong? I just named two clubs off the top of my head. If I wanted to, I could name many more after doing some more research.
EDIT: Oh, the Caf scout. Nah, I recently became one along with two other regulars.