So what you are saying is we shouldn't buy top talent because the players we already have will get sad?
Is Jadon Sancho really worth the 100 plus million fee?
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More like you'd have to get rid of someone for Sancho, otherwise the squad becomes to big.
Rumor is the PL winger they inquired about was CHO.
Dont tell @united_99, it’s just not possible. Could never happen could it? Yeah it already is with greenwood looking far better on the right and Pogba looking better on the left
Have I missed anything? Has Ole joined the forum and confirmed it? Or am I supposed to now take a couple of fans‘ opinion for granted?
If the latter, then you can as well take my opinion which is that Rashford will be a starter for us for years to come.
Sancho is never worth £100 million. 50-60 tops.
he’s slowly getting squeezed out of our best 11 and it’s there for all to see. Keep burying your head in the sand and see where we are this time next year if we sign Sancho and Pogba stays. We need creativity and work rate on the wings that Rashford just doesn’t offer. If we sign a striker and a winger it’s rotation for Rashy. I don’t know what’s wrong with you? Competition for places is the best thing for the team
Fat chance getting one of the best young footballers on the planet for 50 million. You get the likes of Pulisic for that much.
VDB is not a playmaker like Mata. He’s a runner with work ethic. There is no indication how VDB can play on the left and right and whether he suits to the way how Ole programs his wide players to do. In fact he barely even play there in his whole career.
The way how Sancho operates on wide with Dortmund is the same how Ole set up his wide players.
Cavani is 100% to be rotated, Rashford cannot be forced to play again through injury, and we cannot rely on James & Mata to replace them. Look at Chelsea and City bench, the quality they have is the reason why they managed to go further in all competitions (UCL & Cup) than us due to the rotation.
Sorry to break it to you but you have to accept the fact that’s how we play. He believes that’s how we are creating the balance as he thinks we have enough attackers & creativity with our front four, full backs and two ball playing centre backs.
Does he ever play from the left?
I can see Greenwood making that position cutting in from the right his own over the next couple of seasons
I can see Greenwood making that position cutting in from the right his own over the next couple of seasons
A vastly inferior talent and one season wonder like Pepe went for 80m
, so did Osimhen during a covid transfer window last summer and to a poorer Serie A club no less.Some people seem to be thinking that it's still 2011 with some of the valuations being thrown around
So we have no natural RW at the team, but if we get one we have to get rid of someone? doesnt make sense to me.
Mata.
We should sign him at the earliest as I don't want another Hazard type situation.
Yeah, he's played on both flanks a fair amount. A lot of people seem to think left side is his best position as cutting inside is one of his main strengths.
Personally I've seen him on the right more and always been impressed. Plus I like Pogba out left, so would be happy to stick with that for as long as he chooses to stay.
Youll get a lot of stick for this but there isnt much difference between the two imo. If Greenwood played for Dortmund we would be salivating over him. Give Mason 2 more years to catch up to Sanchos age now and we could see a monster.
Yep competition is the best thing but you are making it sound like this only applies to Rashford. Pogba has been benched more this season for being out of form, whereas Rashford has even been played when clearly not fit and only been rested / not played very few times.
Ole knows that no one else in our team gives us what Rashford does and if he stays fit I am 100% sure him and Bruno will again be our most used attacking players next season. Along with Sancho if he joins.
However if by rotation for Rashy you mean affording him a couple of games rest and not starting a half fit Rashford then I agree with you (but for this our other attackers would actually need to outperform a half fit Rashford, let alone a fit one).
This ones a bluffer.
Leah Smith hasn't got a clue.
Sancho can play LW RW and 10. Makes him a near perfect signing.
Brilliant we still need both though.
All i have to accept is the reality that we aren't getting near a CL or PL while McTominay or Fred are regular starters, you can buy all the shiny toys you want for the front 4, also you need to realize that he's chosen to play Rashford a ridiculous amount of times, if you think we are going to see loads of games where Rashford is benched for Sancho and Pogba then I'm sorry to break it to you, but it's not happening. Ole is hardly going to comment publicly on what a dumpster fire our double pivot is, he knows you can easily upgrade them, there are plenty of midfielders with workrate and actual football brains and ability on the ball, you don't have to sacrifice that for lots of running around.
No, I'm saying when you pay £70M+ for a player who operates in the same positions as our two golden boy academy players who are very talented in their own right, and our most gifted player who is also the most expensive transfer in club history, you can't just rotate them with ease and keep a happy camp, it's not Fifa.
Sancho plays RW and LW equally and he plays RW very similar to Mason, he's not some speed demon who blitzes fullbacks and whips crosses in like a Kanchelskis.
Yeah, not sure where she suddenly appeared from (literally last month on twitter) claiming to have so many scoops, whilst supposedly being a writer for Stretty News and Caught Offside...
In fact, if you Google her name and Caught Offside, the only result is an article she wrote about Nemanja Matic having a large painting in his house. Nice.
Guys the squad needs world class competition. Without competition we would have went into this season solely relying on Martial if you want a stark example. Promising well paid young player coming off a very good season and he still bombed out. I don’t care if you are Rashford, Greenwood or Martial you actually need serious competition to push you all the way or you stagnate or burn out and I’m not talking about James being enough. James does a job but he’s not pushing anyone out of the best team.
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Never ever seen this Leah Smith person till they started waffling during the Super League clusterfeck. Not sure how or why they're suddenly an authority on transfers.
Greenwood has been put in the RW but we all know he's a striker. His future is there, and not buying a worldclass player because we dont want to slow down an academy player career is non sense. Our goal as a club should be to win, not to develop players. At the end of the day if Greenwood is good enough he'll play, competition is good for everyone.
RW isn't Sancho's natural position though
Most of his professional career has player as RW, some argue that he is naturally a LW but if he has produced those numbers mainly as a RW I think it's safe to say he can play RW comfortably.
Ole has said on numerous occasions that Greenwood is learning how to play "at this level" from the right as the CF position is too big a responsibility at his age for united. He has also said on many occasions that the club see him a CF and that they are preparing him for that role. It does really seem like the club in general have placed a lot of fait in Greenwood coming good. You also hear Neville etc saying he's the most talented youngster he's ever seen at united. I really feel that we will see Greenwood play RW next season but get more chances at CF. Cavani is perfect as a guide to learning that position and another reason why the club were desperate for him to stay 1 more year.
With the above being said, Sancho provides ready made quality at RW (which is where he plays most often for Dortmund, and where he had his breakout season).
And why can't this be said for Greenwood
Unfortunately you and I are not the manager. The manager thinks McFred are what he needs in double pivot to create balance for the winning game. The manager also has been obsessed with signing Sancho since 2019, which he has good logic behind it. Ole is the manager and I have faith in what he thinks as his primary targets to improve the squad. After all, it's his team and it's up to him of how he wants to play. As long as he's backed not like last season.
Very good point indeed, no difference under that logic, but I think we all think/know Greenwood will develop ultimately to a striker.
Greenwood has about 100 less senior professional matches under his belt, it's still very early to know what kind of player he is. But all indications from the club is that they see him as our long-term centre-forward.
Finally some common sense
Thank you. How does this need explaining to grown adults?
I really dislike this whole he’s my favourite player so he can’t ever be dropped or have competition for their place. Competition will push your favourite player up or out but either way it’s better for the team and the team is what I’m interested in. I think it makes sense to rotate players a bit more than Ole has managed to this season but I also feel it’s probably due to a lack of suitable options in a lot of cases. I hope all the current starters eventually have someone potentially as good or even better waiting in the wings.
Its the only way to be a success. Injury strikes all teams as does poor form. I adore Mason and Marcus, but they cannot play 60 games a season.
Best example of depth is us having Cavani. Actually saved us as Martial was in incredibly shocking form this season
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