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Is Cristiano Ronaldo a Man Utd legend?

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If it means anything, when I think of Man United legends i don't think of Ronaldo.

Great player, maybe even your best ever but he didn't start his career there and his peak years were elsewhere.
 
langster said:
In the 30 odd years I have been attending matches at OT I reckon only 9 players have left me in awe of their performances.
Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Ronaldo, Fat Ronaldo, Giggs, RvP, RvN and Henry.

Only 1 of those on his debut gave me goosebumps and made me jump out my seat and got the entire stadium shouting like nothing I have ever heard before.

Anyone else there for United V Bolton August 16th 2003 will know exactly what I mean. Jim, the 70 year old season ticket holder we were sat behind turned and said he hadn't heard the crowd react to anyone like that since George Best.

I think that says it all. Yes he's a Madrid legend, but he will always be a United legend for many of us too. I don't care, I'm just glad we had him and It really is one of the best.days of my life his debut on my birthday. Wow, what a present.
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Probably unrelated but I was there for Rooneys debut in the CL. Gave me proper goosebumps that lad
 
jmaggio said:
Probably unrelated but I was there for Rooneys debut in the CL. Gave me proper goosebumps that lad
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Not unrelated and of course he will go down as a United legend. Sadly, one of the most underwhelming. His CL debut was amazing, I don't think he ever lived up to those heights again. Yes, moments of brilliance and genius but he never got the crowd as excited as Ronnie. He achieved far more and deserves more credit but sorry, Giggs and Ronaldo both rocked OT in ways Rooney could ever dream of.
 
langster said:
That's fair enough. I agree to a certain extent and am embarrassed I left Eric from my list, but Eric had games where he would be invisible before unleashing moments of brilliance. Feck, he was the Maestro and at times he created poetry on a football pitch but he never once got the crowd like Christiano did. Yes! He did after moments of brilliance or individual genius, but not like Ronnie did when he would intercept the ball on the halfway line and then run forward regardless of what stood before him.

I think Ronaldo epitomized what many of us call the 'United way ' He Is what we crave. He and Giggs and Eric all took players on and pushed forward no matter what.

That's what has been lacking for years. That is what we envy the dippers for and that is what the oldskool supporters call the United Way and that is what the last three managers have not seen, found or understood or brought to Old Trafford.
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Understand that. I mean, I was on the edge of my seat just watching that debut, can imagine what was it like seeing it in the stands. And than to see him reaching the potential and beyond was truly brilliant.
But I would lie if I say that him leaving and craving for another club didn't also leave a small stain in terms of his legacy for me.

Eric is a special case I think. It was more than just his football and him being exceptional player, but also a maverick which never settled until he got here with us winning that title was just a brilliant story all around.

As I said, I can certainly see why many people consider Cristiano as our legend though.
 
langster said:
Not unrelated and of course he will go down as a United legend. Sadly, one of the most underwhelming. His CL debut was amazing, I don't think he ever lived up to those heights again. Yes, moments of brilliance and genius but he never got the crowd as excited as Ronnie. He achieved far more and deserves more credit but sorry, Giggs and Ronaldo both rocked OT in ways Rooney could ever dream of.
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Yeah I agree with that. Rooney never managed their level of technical ability, but his first few years were unreal. It was like watching rashford if he finished every chance, great memories.
 
langster said:
Not unrelated and of course he will go down as a United legend. Sadly, one of the most underwhelming. His CL debut was amazing, I don't think he ever lived up to those heights again. Yes, moments of brilliance and genius but he never got the crowd as excited as Ronnie. He achieved far more and deserves more credit but sorry, Giggs and Ronaldo both rocked OT in ways Rooney could ever dream of.
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Give over, that is discrediting Rooney and you are dismissing him because of his final years at
United.

Overhead winner vs City sure as hell got OT rocking. That volley vs Newcastle.

That is only 2 off the top of my head. I could list many more occasions. Rooney was a genius, and his first 3 years at United he got the crowd more hyped than Ronaldo ever did. Ronaldo had the crowded groaning for his first few years because he was just a show pony with no end product. Rooney was the much better player as teenagera and early 20’s.

It was only until Ronaldo hit the age of 22 before he started coming good. United got 2 amazing years out of him, but they got a lot more amazing years out of Rooney.
 
Cal? said:
Why was it clear? He is/was the best player in the world, we are/were one of the biggest clubs in the world, one of the few who would be able to afford to sign him. He has a history with us, especially Sir Alex, it's the most obvious story to write.

Do you expect him to be issuing denials whenever the story comes up?
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One of the best players to wear the shirt in a season but not a legend. He gave us only 2 years of his prime, the rest were with another club. I won't consider a player as a legend for 2 phenomenal years. If he had stayed some more years, the argument would have been having more base.

Why would he deny it if he was the only leaking it via his agent ?
 
Ronaldo was a fantastic player in the MU, just like Rooney.

What separates them is that Ronaldo was a more spectacular star for a shorter time, while Rooney made a fantastic effort as the club's star for a long time. Certainly worse the last few years but it is natural.

Overall, Rooney spread more light over MU than Ronaldo did and therefore deserves the status of a legend in the club.
 
Jim Beam said:
Understand that. I mean, I was on the edge of my seat just watching that debut, can imagine what was it like seeing it in the stands. And than to see him reaching the potential and beyond was truly brilliant.
But I would lie if I say that him leaving and craving for another club didn't also leave a small stain in terms of his legacy for me.

Eric is a special case I think. It was more than just his football and him being exceptional player, but also a maverick which never settled until he got
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The holy trinity 68 said:
Give over, that is discrediting Rooney and you are dismissing him because of his final years at
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No, no it isn't and it wasn't meant with any disrespect, it's just the way they play. Yes Rooney blew the roof off with moments of genius but the way people would rise and stand when Ronnie and Giggs got the ball on the wing is something else.
 
duffer said:
If it means anything, when I think of Man United legends i don't think of Ronaldo.

Great player, maybe even your best ever but he didn't start his career there and his peak years were elsewhere.
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Ridiculous and also proof that people are basing this on his overall career and not purely his time in Manchester. If Ronaldo had flopped at Madrid like Kaka instead of turning into what he has become, this thread wouldn't even exist.

Half of Ronaldo's United time was development. He didn't even reach 30 goals in all competitions in his first 3 seasons and people doubted whether he would ever score enough goals. His real breakout was in 06/07, his peak form in 07/08 which he could not maintain in 08/09 and that was that.

His impact at United was arguably smaller than the one Neymar had at Barca in his time there. 105 goals in 4 seasons, including a treble vs. 118 goals in 6 seasons. Now ask Barca fans if Neymar would even make a top 200 Barca legends list after he left.

What a strange fixation many United fans have with this guy, unbelievable.
 
duffer said:
If it means anything, when I think of Man United legends i don't think of Ronaldo.

Great player, maybe even your best ever but he didn't start his career there and his peak years were elsewhere.
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But he still ended up playing 292 games for United.To put that into perspective,Éric Cantona played 182 games for the club.So Cristiano actually played 110 games more than Cantona...Obviously the mystique and the timing of Cantonas arrival was different,but Ronaldo played a huge huge part in taking the club back to the top in a very competitive premier league.

Cantona won 4 Premierleague titles and 2 FA Cups....Ronaldo won 3 league titles,the CL plus the FA And League Cup.Ronaldo is a United legend,unquestionably...l
 
The holy trinity 68 said:
Give over, that is discrediting Rooney and you are dismissing him because of his final years at
United.

Overhead winner vs City sure as hell got OT rocking. That volley vs Newcastle.

That is only 2 off the top of my head. I could list many more occasions. Rooney was a genius, and his first 3 years at United he got the crowd more hyped than Ronaldo ever did. Ronaldo had the crowded groaning for his first few years because he was just a show pony with no end product. Rooney was the much better player as teenagera and early 20’s.

It was only until Ronaldo hit the age of 22 before he started coming good. United got 2 amazing years out of him, but they got a lot more amazing years out of Rooney.
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2004/05 was the only season where Rooney did better than Ronaldo... and Ronaldo had 3.5 amazing years at United, not 2.

He was incredible from halfway through 2005/06 and made it to the Premier League team of the year then. Rooney was more highly rated for a while because he was english, he wasn’t a better player.

Ronaldo was misused at United for a fairly long time as he was playing too far from goal, for his first couple of years he was twice as good for Portugal than he was for United because of it.
 
Cait Sith said:
Ridiculous and also proof that people are basing this on his overall career and not purely his time in Manchester. If Ronaldo had flopped at Madrid like Kaka instead of turning into what he has become, this thread wouldn't even exist.

Half of Ronaldo's United time was development. He didn't even reach 30 goals in all competitions in his first 3 seasons and people doubted whether he would ever score enough goals. His real breakout was in 06/07, his peak form in 07/08 which he could not maintain in 08/09 and that was that.

His impact at United was arguably smaller than the one Neymar had at Barca in his time there. 105 goals in 4 seasons, including a treble vs. 118 goals in 6 seasons. Now ask Barca fans if Neymar would even make a top 200 Barca legends list after he left.

What a strange fixation many United fans have with this guy, unbelievable.
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Ronaldo did a lot more for United than Neymar did for Barcelona, that’s an awful comparison.

He was Barcelona’s third best forward, not their star player
 
Is it because of a recent thing. Recent factor.

Things Ronaldo did and accused of which affects his reputation?
Even Rooney's stock plummeting because of what he did and performed later seasons and some fans say he's not a legend.

Anyway, one thing for sure, the later newer generations of fans in the 2030s onwards will for sure say CR7 is a legend.
 
Every United fan deep down knows that Cristiano Ronaldo is a United legend, the ones who don't agree are either too young to remember or are still very hurt for him leaving, even the club Manchester United officially regards him as a legend.
Ronaldo brought me to football, made me to start watching United... before I became a Madrid fan.
The only people that ategreater legends than him are Best, Cantona and Giggs.
Cristiano Ronaldo is a Manchester United legend, he is also a Madrid legend...though more of a Madrid legend, and he could potentially become a Juve legend.
This is Cristiano Ronaldo we're talking about, not some random great player...if he could play for 50 years, he could be a legend of 5 clubs, that's how legendary he is
 
Amar__ said:
I am not sure about Pirlo, I don't really think Milan fans like him that much as United fans like Ronaldo. @JPRouve ? Pirlo is more legend of the game, and Juve and Milan great. Definitely not legend of both teams.

Seedorf played around 300 games for Milan so I would say he is their legend. I don't think Ajax can claim he is their legend at all. He played over 100 games for Real Madrid, does anyone even remembers him playing there, let alone thinks he is their legend?

Suarez is Liverpool's legend almost the same as Ronaldo is ours. Smaller club mentality thinking he is their legend when in reality he fecked off to a bigger club in his mind. He would sign for Real Madrid too if they called him. Never in a million years Liverpool legend. Well, except in Liverpool fans brains.

I am not sure about Shearer, but he is definitely not Blackburn legend having played more than 300 games for Newcastle.
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And none of this matters unless the fans of the respective clubs think otherwise. Ask Blackburn fans, Ajax fans wtf as it's their call
 
Peyroteo said:
If Ronaldo had turned to shit at Madrid, he'd be a United legend. As he played well for a decade after leaving United, he's not. Fantastic logic that.

Just because he's a Madrid legend doesn't mean he can't be a United legend too. He's going to go down as one of the top 5 footballers in the history of the game, played 6 years at the club, 300 games, plenty of great moments, big goals, won everything both collectively and individually and he was the main man in the last truly great United team you will see for a while. What more do you want? For him to go to bed wearing United pyjamas to prove his love for the club?

If Gary Neville or Evra were offered what Ronaldo was getting at Madrid, does anyone actually believe they'd stay out of loyalty? Come on...

Henry is an Arsenal legend even if he left for Barcelona, Mourinho is an Inter legend even if he left for Madrid, Kaka is a Milan legend even if he left for Madrid, etc...
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Exactly. It's bitterness from United fans, obsessed with CO92 dreams.
 
He is a cnut but he is a legend as well. He was just that good during his time with us so yes.
 
Ronaldo is a legend because without him we would not have won the CL. And we did so playing the best football I have ever seen us play.

It may seem like just another trophy - but United fans overrate how big we are in Europe; we really should be winning more UCL's than 2 in a space of near 30 years.

For that reason he remains a legend. The moment we start winning 2 UCL's per decade and do so more consistently - then I'm sure we will have enough legends at our club that we can drop Ronaldo being a legend figure at the club.

However until we do - Ronaldo is a legend for winning our 2nd UCL.
 
IRELANDUNITED said:
He is a United legend though
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When he played for us, almost anything seemed possible.

I do believe that he had a great deal to thank SAF for and to his great credit he was a very quick learner.

One of the very few players who could literally take your breath away with some of the things he did.

Is he a United legend - absolutely.
 
For me he is, but a tier below Scholes, Giggs, Charlton etc. In terms of talent he's up there but for me he'll be in the same bracket with Beckham.
 
Yes. Madness to me he people think he isn't.

I think people forget jut how good he was for us.
 
I think the word legend is banded about far too freely. In my opinion, he's a legend of the game and we were privileged to see him at the club. But he's not a United legend.

Club Icons: Ronaldo, Cantona, Solskjaer, Rooney, Robson, Keane, Buchan, Law, Beckham etc
Club Legends: Charlton, Scholes, Giggs, Foulkes, Busby, Ferguson
 
MaxiPaxi said:
I find this Ronaldo obsession from some of our fans fecking cringe worthy. It's like eulogising about your ex who left you for a more masculine, better looking, more successful, richer guy. The man couldn't wait to get the feck out of here. feck him and his tanned abs. Great player and loved him while he was here but he's nowhere near Cantona for instance who's United through and through or even Patrice Evra or Ferdinand. Amazing players, integral to one of our best periods as a club,and they gave their best years to us too, unlike Ronaldo. Not a legend imo.
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This.
 
Buster15 said:
When he played for us, almost anything seemed possible.

I do believe that he had a great deal to thank SAF for and to his great credit he was a very quick learner.

One of the very few players who could literally take your breath away with some of the things he did.

Is he a United legend - absolutely.
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Yeah, he may not have been here as long as we all hoped but he won absolutely everything with us before he left, including the ballon d'or. He's in unique company in that regard, Best, Law and Sir Bobby.
 
United have won 3 European Cups and he was the driving force for one of them and some people don't call him a legend.... Is crazy to me.

Was absolutely magnificent for us and became the focal point of attack at a young age when a team in transition became a true force.
Has always expressed gratitude and warm wishes towards us.
Was nothing but professional.
Scored a colossal amount of goals and several stunners.
Even Gary Neville said watching him between 06 and 09 was like nothing he'd ever seen at OT before.
Won the ballon d'or.
Was top scorer.
Scored against all our major rivals.
Was epic in some huge games for us.

And some folk say he's not a United legend.

Oh yes, and Sir Alex loves him to bits and I'd say he is a well qualified judge of United legends and contributions to the team.
 
Not really imo, the way he forced his way out is not something legend's do. Considering his wish to spend the best years of his career playing for Madrid, makes me think UTD was nothing more than a stepping-stone to him.
 
Hala Madrid said:
Every United fan deep down knows that Cristiano Ronaldo is a United legend, the ones who don't agree are either too young to remember or are still very hurt for him leaving, even the club Manchester United officially regards him as a legend.
Ronaldo brought me to football, made me to start watching United... before I became a Madrid fan.
The only people that ategreater legends than him are Best, Cantona and Giggs.
Cristiano Ronaldo is a Manchester United legend, he is also a Madrid legend...though more of a Madrid legend, and he could potentially become a Juve legend.
This is Cristiano Ronaldo we're talking about, not some random great player...if he could play for 50 years, he could be a legend of 5 clubs, that's how legendary he is
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I'm not too young to remember and I'm not hurt he left and I dont regard him a legend. So you shouldnt generalize like that.
 
Voted no! He's a Madrid legend. For us i think Charlton, Law, Best, Cantona and the like, Rooney, Keane just below, sorry cannot put Ronaldo in either bracket, great player yes but Utd legend no!
 
Why is there this consensus that a player can't be a legend at two clubs? Truly special players can. For example, it's difficult to argue Cruyff isn't both an Ajax and a Barcelona legend.

Not saying Ronaldo is a United legend (I voted no), but the fact that he is a Real Madrid legend doesn't immediately disqualify him from the discussion.
 
Red Stone said:
Why is there this consensus that a player can't be a legend at two clubs? Truly special players can. For example, it's difficult to argue Cruyff isn't both an Ajax and a Barcelona legend.

Not saying Ronaldo is a United legend (I voted no), but the fact that he is a Real Madrid legend doesn't immediately disqualify him from the discussion.
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It helps when the vast majority of fans agree that the player is a legend of their club. There’s way more don’t believe he’s a legend at Utd than there would be Barca or Ajax fans saying cruyff isn’t one at their respective clubs.
 
I voted yes but not up there with others.

He had one amazing season sandwiched between two good seasons, with his three first seasons being the inconsistent yet talented youth. I always think he viewed us as a stepping stone in his career which is why I never really fanboyed over him. He probably stayed longer than he did because Sir Alex is a man management god (especially for 08/09).

It’s strange because Cantona was here shorter than Ronaldo was, yet a lot of people put him down as THE modern era Utd legend. Maybe because Ronaldo was in an already successful team when he joined and Cantona joined a team which hadn’t reached the peaks of the 60s.

It may depend on how he views us in retirement I guess, when he isn’t bias to whatever team hes playing for. He could rack up some points with me if he looks back on Utd glowingly, rather than just Sir Alex glowingly.
 
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