Iran v US confrontation
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To be fair respect for having the conversation even if we perhaps in the end we have to respectfully disagree. It is always good to get both sides of an issue.
You've hit the nail on the head. precisely the reason why he has so many detractors is his inability to work with most people be it fellow Americans or other global Leaders. Not just in scope of this agreement, but it's detrimental in wider context as countries will not want to negotiate with US in good faith anymore.
Yeah that rapists but comment don't look good...oh dear
It is to get 2 sides of an issue. But you are just guessing that Trump has something when he did not even said that. At the other side, there is plenty of proof and precedents that makes pulling out of the JPOC a bad and a partisan idea
To play devils advocate though and Trump was totally correct, they would seem the more reliable and trustworthy in any possible negotiation.
Sigh....
We're never going to agree as I don't believe the "proof" you speak of is actually proof of anything. I don't want this get silly and go overboard so I'll leave it there.
Well, if you don't believe that experts in the matter are no proof vs no proof at all, yes, we better leave it here. We can agree on that
Well, if you don't believe that experts in the matter are no proof vs no proof at all, yes, we better leave it here. We can agree on that
Nicely twisting my point there as I said Trump will have "experts" as we are calling them. But let's just leave it and be friends now haha
Well, yeah, but we're the good guys, so it's OK.
Trump said nothing about having experts of Iran not complying. SO I don't see the twist. And yes, I can discuss with friends, no prob
Trump said nothing about having experts of Iran not complying. SO I don't see the twist. And yes, I can discuss with friends, no prob
I'm just saying I think he will have experts even though he did not mention them. Nice one
Curious, which deal do you refer to as Trump being correct?
To remove himself and the US from this deal with Iran and thereby not idly standing by as another nation increased its capability for nuclear warfare as he feels Iran are a threat. He could be proven right as he was with North Korea.
He did not say that, and the JCOP says completely the oposite. What was about right in NK?
He got them to the negotiating table for legitimate talks. Looks like he's odds on to win a Nobel peace prize for it too.
Lol. Yes, we better leave it here
Jim Mattis, who you might consider an actual tough guy instead of someone just posing as one, and has no love for Iran, thought it was better to stay in the deal.
A fair point, worth considering.
He's 2/1 for the peace prize and 13/8 to be re-elected. Which electorate has ever been fully informed on facts?
Would you wish to make me feel uncomfortable and demand I explain myself if I didnt believe in climate change or are you more tolerant of others opinions than that?
What makes you think pakistan can cause 'unacceptable amount of damage' to usa ? Pakistan doesn't have missiles which can cover all of India, let alone even reaching the shores of america.
It's not relevant to you or this issue.
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To be fair, his position on trump is also stupid and he can stop talking about that.
It isn't relevant to this so why go into another topic?
So why does my opinion on Climate change affect anything if it's about he trustworthiness of trump.
Btw I do think climate change is real.
You have no basis to say my position on Trump is stupid, you're just talking for the sake of it.
Submarine launched ballistic missiles say hello.
Your posts in this thread are the basis. You've demonstrated it over and over again.
Whatever mate. Just because I have a different opinion to you, you try to ridicule me and make out as though my opinion is nonsense compared to your own...typical of the modern left these days. Nobody can prove Trump is wrong at this moment in time with absolute certainty and quite a few also believe he is correct.
Anyway I'm out of this thread for now.
so much for the tolerant left!
Funny how Trump supporters bail when you ask them to justify why they support him.
I did, earlier in the thread. I gave 4 examples of policies I supported. I asked which policies they didn't like and was given 4 things that weren't even policies but more "controversies".
Myth Busted.
*edit - apologies 2 of 5 were policies they didn't like.
Where is the justification part? You just put them out there, no reasons given.
At that time I wasn't asked to justify them, just to name them. And I don't need to justify myself to you, whomever you are to judge others opinions as justifiable or not? I could and would if I thought it would change your opinion. Why waste my time...could anything I type or anything Trump could ever do change your opinion on him?
I'm not sure asking him to elaborate on anything is going to do us any favours
Yes, but people asked follow up question you seem to ignore which is a bit odd since we are all here to advance our views by discussion. Of course you are free to hold whatever opinion you like and I couldn't care less about that, it's the rationale I'm talking about. I'm trying to be as open-minded as possible and depending on what you say/Trump does I'd be more than happy to evolve my views.
You've obviously nothing really helpful to say so the out of context jibes and ridicule comes in. Usual left wing nonsense.
I'm not saying Mexicans are racist but I am going to follow this clearly racist comment with racist misinformation