Wonder what trouble this will cause? He did it by EO too.
Iran v US confrontation
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the sad part is it was not necessary.
sorry, what does 'hitting them kinetically' mean? blowing them up?
Getting into a military campaign against Iran.
Well they are (at least at first glance) sanctions, so Congress should feel relieved there is no military conflict, at least for now.
Depends from whose POV. Trump needs something to distract from so much adverse publicity and to excite his base.
Was more meaning trouble from Iran.
Mnuchin new press sec? Also happened in the middle of a WH lockdown...suspicious package Penns Avenue.
Jimmy Dore laying it on Schiff and warmongering media.
Someone in the WH wrote that statement.
Khamenei
Khomeini
Oh god no.
You get worse spelling atrocities daily in the football forums.
Khomeini
Oh god no.
You get worse spelling atrocities daily in the football forums.
So trump is cool if China just rocks up with a few nuclear subs and places a few figher wings on iranain airbases then to protect their own shipping... then the usa can bugger off from the region... win win win I think... crack on
Oh dear, I fear this won’t go down well.
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That Wharton education.
A part of me wishes this was a Denald post instead of reality.
A part of me wishes this was a Denald post instead of reality.
He's run Denald out of business
The best grades.
Exactly this.
The LGBT community is making a killing selling oil to Japan, apparently.
And you think Russia would let China setting bases in the area?
"I'm in your base drilling your crudes"
President Sanders' new plan - "Medicare For All Except Mr. Beats, Mr. Hawk, And Mr. Dawg. Lower taxes for Mr. Wagner personally."
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Objectively speaking, if the US were to pick up sticks out of that region, who would actually be worse off? Saudi Arabia and Israel probably, but anyone else? Wouldn’t it be American interests in the region that suffer the most from that?
Probably add Jordan to the list. Then you have the countless dictators in the Middle East and Africa who might fancy a pop at more power. Whether the US is there or not, in those regions they will still kill each other. It's been that way for centuries and will be that way until long after we're all dead. For all the trouble America causes their presence is still a mighty big deterrent to any would be Gaddafis, Milosevics or Konys who feel like attacking their own people.
America and its allys delusions never fails to surprise me.
I dont think bolton trumps and those incharge today would care. They just want to cash in on the war. What happens after isnt their concern. I even think they profit from occupations as well with all those private contractors contracts.
The congress should ban military outsourcing. It's a clusterfeck of conflict of interest
Oh I fully agree with all of that, my thoughts were independent of trump and co. I was really trying to think of who would be worse off, and it’s really just SA and Israel. Every single other country they’ve intervened in has come out the other end worse than they were before.
And everything in America is a conflict of interest centered around making money for those in power. Healthcare, education, the justice system. Literally that entire country is one big vacuum sucking money up the ladder.
If you take a little step back from the present moment and look at the broad sweep of history, I think you’ll find this statement applies to pretty much everywhere to some degree, but probably best describes Europe better than anywhere else.
It absolutely does, but for the most part Europe (certainly Western Europe) has finished with its internal squabbling. The MEA and Africa still in many areas identifies itself by tribe, religion and culture ahead of actual country, just as we used to do in Europe. Until they move on from that there will always be conflict. People would still get killed if the US left them all alone, it would just be a different set of people. It's extremely naive to think if the US never got involved all things would be rosy.
The USA is Babylon the great and will be destroyed in 1 hour. Strange that the name of the Iranian President spelt backwards is inahour
That's... something.
Wow
What happened
2 posts up bro
Tagline checks out.
Ah I see, wow indeed
Instead the US and Europe fight wars to maintain artificial national boundaries that they themselves created and which often aren’t a particularly good fit for the people who actually live there, continuing an inevitable cycle of violence to supposedly prevent future outbreaks of violence.
Seems a bit silly really, doesn’t it.