They’ve been threatening to block shipping in the straits since April when the US essentially made the export of Iranian oil illegal.
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They’ve been threatening to block shipping in the straits since April when the US essentially made the export of Iranian oil illegal.
Haven’t Britain, France and others in the agreement done their utmost to help minimise the impact on Iran of the US sanctions. It would be weird if Iran kick it back in their face to spite the US.
Indeed they have explicitly said they want to seize a UK tanker and had to be chased away from another ship last week
They've done some things, but the end result turns out the same for Iran. Companies are not willing to deal with them, since the US has made it clear that anyone who does so will be facing sanctions themselves.
And the solution to that is to go after their actual allies, or at least those who have treated them with some level of respect and dignity? It doesn’t add up.
I mean, Britain did seize an Iranian tanker...
Seems they've seized a second tanker.
UK 1-2 Iran.
UK 1-2 Iran.
Because it was violating EU sanctions. They need to give our tanker back pronto.
I'm explaining why Iran wouldn't look at from your nuanced perspective. They're probably like, "if you seize our shit we seizing your shit"
Have you got a source for that?
Don't think it's another UK one?
From cnn
Edit... Liberian flag but British owned...
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/iran-seize-second-british-tanker-in-one-day/
Hows that consent coming along?
Is anyone except the British government remotely surprised?
They were breaking EU sanctions so I can only assume that redcafe was bloody delighted about that seizure.
Thanks.
They’re not surprised. That’s why they have a warship out there.
Cheeky sods these Iranians.
Worked well hasn't it?I actually mean Britain should have seen it coming before we seized their tanker, and done the obvious thing by surreptitiously tipping them off first to give them the chance to sail off and be someone else's problem.
We’ll just have to nick two more of theirs won’t we.
I actually mean Britain should have seen it coming before we seized their tanker, and done the obvious thing by surreptitiously tipping them off first to give them the chance to sail off and be someone else's problem.
C'mon... Get real
I actually mean Britain should have seen it coming before we seized their tanker, and done the obvious thing by surreptitiously tipping them off first to give them the chance to sail off and be someone else's problem.
Trump's gonna give us a cracking deal now he has an excuse to bomb Iran and distract from the meuller testimony
Cracking conspiracy work from the UK
10% off US chicken perhaps?
The UK is basically Satan #3, doubt Tehran is making big distinctions.
Perhaps not that good... Art of the deal and all that
Maybe 10% more chlorine free?
Update: One British flagged ship and one Liberian flagged ship. No British citizens on either ship. Crew are a mixture of nationalities. In other words the Iranians have now pissed of a load of other countries too.
I wonder if they thought the Liberian flagged ship was one of ours.
They just might have done. Flag is very similar.
That’s what I’m thinking. From a distance all you can really see is the blue field with red and white stripes.
Try putting the free app 'marine radar' on your phone, or one of the others like it. The position of every ship on the seas is shown, along with details of tonnage, when built, cargo, destination, flag, etc. You can google the ship's name to find ownership and the rest, or I daresay the 'paid for' apps will do that anyway, but I've never been interested enough to pay for one myself. I like to use it when I'm near a port to see what's in though.
I doubt they just saw a ship, took a cursory look at the flag, and decided to capture it. That information is definitely out there, like 711 says.
My phone only does texts and a basic installed app or two that came with the phone. Has no internet connection though.
Nothing wrong with that, you may have more sense than the rest of us there. In the case of the Liberian-flagged tanker, Sky says it was British-owned, which would make it a target of course.
Yes, it was a conscious decision. Just like my phone to be a phone. Cheaper too. Can connect to the internet with iPads, laptops and PCs.
Yeah, maybe. If it was British owned, then that makes sense. Just seemed odd to target Liberia.
The Liberian flagged ship is currently being tracked as it moves away from Iranian waters, seems they didn't take it.
I read on twitter they "pulled it over" and warned it about it's actions and the ongoing stuff.
Read the same. The ship seems to be back on course now.
Just reading up on the whole scenario. What are the courses of action for Britain, right now?
We don't seem to be getting any support for upholding EU sanctions. I don't see why we'd get involved in seizing their ship. Let the EU do it or the US and they get the blame, even more so with our situation with the EU.
The issue is that Iran is not a party to EU sanctions. The ship was sailing in waters that have freedom of navigation.(Just like near Taiwan where China makes noise for military ships of other countries sailing there). So the British seizure was not actually correct in this sense. Furthermore this is not oil from Syria but maybe crude going to Syria. Iran is not under sanctions by the EU at all. This is why the EU is not saying anything much about this. Now if this was UN sanctions then it is a different story.
Furthermore, according to the Spanish the US informed them first about the ship and the Spanish rightly ignored it.
Furthermore, according to the Spanish the US informed them first about the ship and the Spanish rightly ignored it.