IPL 2019

AshRK said:
How is diving and this even comparable is beyond me. It's not like ashwin pushed butler and then ran him out. Rules states if the batsmen is out of his crease before the bowler delivers the ball he can run the batsmen out. It looks like you are just hell bent on terming someone a cheat when he did not cheat.
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He paused, waited for butler to leave the crease and then ran him out. If he had delivered the ball as normal butler would be in the crease.
 
Di Maria's angel said:
You called him a cheater. I didn't use a strawman to "defeat" you.

Anyway, MCC has come out and also stated that it was out. Unfortunately, everyone is crying about the Spirit of the Game which seems to only apply to India and Indian players. I'm looking at you Ian Bell. And I'm sure there was a recent one as well, last summer.
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You really believe that? Feck, the Aussies have always been targeted for being twats/pushing boundaries and not playing "within the spirit of the game" (actual cheating aside). And before you think I'm defending the Aussies, I'm a South African :lol:
 
Ish said:
You really believe that? Feck, the Aussies have always been targeted for being twats/pushing boundaries and not playing "within the spirit of the game" (actual cheating aside). And before you think I'm defending the Aussies, I'm a South African :lol:
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I guess I'm referring to cases similar to this Ashwin one as opposed to sledging, insulting your opposition etc.

For instance, the incident of Broad not walking when clearly out never created this drama and there was barely any talk of "the spirit of the game being damaged".
 
Di Maria's angel said:
I guess I'm referring to cases similar to this Ashwin one as opposed to sledging, insulting your opposition etc.

For instance, the incident of Broad not walking when clearly out never created this drama and there was barely any talk of "the spirit of the game being damaged".
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Yeah, I think the media coverage (who's covering it) and their bias would make a big impact on matters. My limited knowledge on the matter just think its twattish/unsportsmanlike, but not really cheating.

But yeah, the individual who did it - and their history/attitude, also plays a part. I think Ashwin is more universally disliked, then say someone like you mentioned, Bumrah. In the same way Warner is much more disliked then most other cricketers.
 
This Mumbai team is so meh compared to some of the older teams.
They really need to get rid of Pollard and Malinga plus invest in that lower middle order. Right not they are dependant on Pollard and the Pandyas with all three of them out of form
Pollard has one good innings out of 10 games
 
Well it was a clear no ball and Di Villiers would have been on the crease with a possible chance of victory . The technology is there and there are referrals . The match referee should have taken a stand and called back the players after the it was shown clearly in the replays .
 
MJJ said:
We now have had a chance to review it in more detail and we think that Buttler was in his ground as Ashwin got into a position when the non-striker could reasonably have expected the ball to have been delivered. Ashwin seemed to pause to allow Buttler to go out of his ground and then obviously he put the wicket down; Buttler did not really make much of an effort to get back into his ground. It is one where we just felt the pause was just too long and therefore not within the spirit of cricket.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/26374026/ashwin-pause-too-long-not-spirit-cricket-mcc




Comparision of two deliveries, butler was in if ashwin hadn't paused and stopped. The delivery should have been declared as a dead ball, the umpire got it wrong simples and ashwin is a cnut to get butler out this way.
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Yes, Buttler was probably in without the pause, but only just. So I don't understand how the MCC have concluded it as 'against the spirit of cricket.'

It's still an extremely tight call, so imo Ashwin was within his rights to appeal for what is a legitmate mode of dismissal. And then the 3rd umpire should take it from there.. in this case he should probably rules it as Not Out and subsequently a dead ball.

Also this quote from the MCC statement seems to have been completely overlooked by everyone:
“It is also unfair, and against the Spirit of Cricket, for non-strikers to leave their ground too early. All these debates wouldn’t be necessary if non‑strikers remained in their ground until the ball is on its way down the pitch.”
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Yet, all everyone can talk about is what a twat Ashwin is and vilyfing the bowler as against the 'cricket spirit', despite not breaking any rules. Why isn't anyone talking about Buttler taking a headstart on several deliveries during the over?

There was a frame from yesterdays game where Pandya was miles down the track when the delivery was bowled. Absolutely ridiculous (and I'm a MI supporter) how batsman continually get away with it. I actually hope we get more manakading inicdents, which would automatically stop literally every batsmen these days from taking a headstart and having to run less. Problem would fix itself. That or we need to deduct runs.
 
I'd keep the field up after this over if I was Warner. Rahane is having a mare and you're just letting him off the hook by giving him singles.
 
Sanju Samson plays a great knock and scores the 1st century of the tournament with Rajasthan ending up on 198-2 after 20 overs .
 
So Warner is also in form. feck sakes.
 
Big call but I'd drop Rahane and bring Livingstone in as opener. Make Smith or Buttler captain, they've both done it at top level.
 
JohnnyKills said:
Big call but I'd drop Rahane and bring Livingstone in as opener. Make Smith or Buttler captain, they've both done it at top level.
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You're only allowed four foreigners in a team.
 
Shaw showing Dhawan how its done. Shame its the latter that's going to the world cup.
 
Kagiso fecking Rabada... what an incredible super over.

DC deserved that.
 
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