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What I explicitly disagree was with your earlier post that there are 10 modern players more influential than Messi of 2007, 15 or 16.
I didn't say 10 I say 4-5
What I explicitly disagree was with your earlier post that there are 10 modern players more influential than Messi of 2007, 15 or 16.
Yeah, sorry, but the point still standsI didn't say 10 I say 4-5
I agree.I was shocked Messi went so early myself. Personally i feel there are at least 4-5 tournament performances of unpicked players in last 10 years better than either of Messi Copa's
I agree.
I hope the discussions about his NT performances don't overshadow everything else, it's already getting big and the same has been discussed to death over the last 3 odd years.
Put it this way - if it was a regular good player without the reputation of Lionel Messi with the exact same performances, he probably wouldn't be picked in this draft.What I explicitly disagree was with your earlier post that there are 10 modern players more influential than Messi of 2007, 15 or 16.
Put it this way - if it was a regular good player without the reputation of Lionel Messi with the exact same performances, he probably wouldn't be picked in this draft.
Not denying that but the reputation does play a huge part while already players who have better Copa performances are overlooked as they don't have the same vote pull.Honestly, Messi in Copa's is far better than a regular good player. Not club peak but certainly not a regular good player.
Not denying that but the reputation does play a huge part while already players who have better Copa performances are overlooked as they don't have the same vote pull.
Two hours left for Mazhar and Arbi.
Executive decision made, sorry for the hold up guys
Förster was undoubtedly the best central defender of the mundial
Förster was easily the most reliable German player. He reduced noticeably the sphere of action of his direct opponents and condemned them all to inefficacy*. He remained calm even in the most hectic situations and thus provided the German defense with an extraordinary stabiltiy
Ah damn, Forster is a cracking pick.
Peter Crouch who would've scored 5 and assisted 4 in 375 minutes of the international tournament wouldn't have been picked? Seriously?Put it this way - if it was a regular good player without the reputation of Lionel Messi with the exact same performances, he probably wouldn't be picked in this draft.
There's a striker who had one of the best International tournament displays I've seen and went on to play for Liverpool, let's see if he gets picked.Peter Crouch who would've scored 5 and assisted 4 in 375 minutes of the international tournament wouldn't have been picked? Seriously?
i agree that Messi was picked to early but lets not pretend he is the only one that was picked based on reputation, we picked around 100 players so far and all of them are GOATs and draft regulars there isnt one average joe with a brilliant tourno and there are lots of them.
Before the draft i was thinking of going for a full average joe team but in the end decided against it as i realized i would get all players that i wanted on day 1 so the drafting process would be snooze fest from my perspective.
He was like Klinsman in that Euro. Thank goodie he was like Welbeck Mk II with Liverpool.There's a striker who had one of the best International tournament displays I've seen and went on to play for Liverpool, let's see if he gets picked.
I agree with the rest it's better to discuss it during the games, but there was one right winger (playing a lot like Messi's favorite inside right role) still not picked and IMO he had a better tournament there than I've yet to see from Messi.i agree that Messi was picked to early but lets not pretend he is the only one that was picked based on reputation, we picked around 100 players so far and all of them are GOATs and draft regulars, there isnt one average joe with a brilliant tourno and there are lots of them.
Before the draft i was thinking of going for a full average joe team but in the end decided against it as i realized i would get all players that i wanted on day 1 so the drafting process would be snooze fest from my perspective.
Let's try to send our picks to someone in case we go away. Or if you are co managing it, try to have the discussion before hand. A few too many 8 hours so far.
i agree that Messi was picked to early
Wasn't there some discussion on how to speed up the picking process for the snake draft in the last draft? Were there any ideas that could be implemented now? Tbf though the pace has been pretty good apart from a couple of managers and their AMs, although given the all time pool I can understand their dilemma but it has been a wee bit too frequent though, admittedly.
There is bear cum, there is bear cum!Bring in Bergkamp ffs. For that goal against Argentina alone.