Oh damn!! Another 8 o clock speech coming.
Duck and take cover folks!!
Duck and take cover folks!!
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He'll most probably shed crocodile tears over migrants.
BMKJ
Of course.
Once you make someone your Lord, you can neither blame him for your sufferings, nor leave him because he gives you sufferings.
Do we really have 20 lakh crores to spend? Or is it just a fancy number?
Wait for the fine print today
Is this a new package?
Not entirely. While the PM did not give the details, he did specify that this calculation of Rs 20 lakh crore includes what the government has already announced and the steps taken by the Reserve Bank of India.
This means that the total amount of additional money — that is over and above what the government would have spent even in the absence of a Covid crisis — will not be Rs 20 lakh crore. It would be substantially less.
Adani ji seems to be very happy about this new vision by Modi ji.. So I have high hopes
Guys I was reading somewhere that studying medicine in india can cost up to $100k. How true is this?
Rampant corruption in public universities and "donations" required by private universities can cost you anywhere between 10k to 150k. Everything is for sale if you know the right people and have enough money.
Unless you include "donations" then no. Merit positions hardly cost a fraction of that
It's still 10-12 lakh crore (Rs10-12tn) which is still substantially more than what anyone was expecting and seemingly doable.
Obviously, the proof of the pudding will be in the actual nuances of this and the execution of it.
@RedDevil don't expect all that money to be eventually spent. This package will include things like a credit guarantee scheme for small businesses that lets say is Rs3tn. But not all that money will be used. The govt will compensate the banks for loans they've guaranteed and that figure could work out to be substantially lower if the economy starts running smoothly again.
It is indeed a large number on one that will be backed by deficit financing by RBI, ie printing of cash. I have no views on the complex economics of gives and takes of such a step but at the end of the day, the entire world is doing it including EU and US with some of those western countries even more leveraged than us. So it's fine if we have to do it to protect ourselves.
Eventually though, this is "tiding over bad times" money. Unless this is accompanied with major policy changes, it all eventually gets exhausted. So like I said, proof of the pudding is what they now do in terms of execution. They've rolled their final dice in terms of monetary policy but it has to be accompanied with policy support.
my cousin got the entrance test results to study in the nicer govt hospitals (which also means lower fees, not even remotely like you described, closer to $5k for both MBBS and MD i think).
she worked for a few months at another govt hospital as part of her degree, they wanted to hire her full time and she wanted to join, but the only way recruitment gets approved is by bribes. she refused to pay and they didn't hire.
I don't think this is the norm for standard senior resident positions in Govt hospital, which is entry level role after MD. For advanced positions like specialist you need to rely on nepotism and bribes.
Umar Khalid tweeting about Dr Kafeel.
Bhakts will be like "OMG!! Deshdrohi overdose"
On a sidenote, I didn't know Umar Khalid had a blue tick. Kudos to BJP for converting a normal student into a celebrity.
Epidemiologists say India’s centre for disease control withheld COVID-19 data since pandemic began
Vidya Krishnan, 12 May 2020
In the first week of February, the Integrated Disease Surveillance Programme (IDSP), a government initiative under the health ministry’s National Centre for Disease Control (NCDC), recorded in its weekly report that India had reported its first three positive cases of COVID-19. The IDSP tracks the spread of diseases in India and publishes a weekly report of outbreaks on its website. For over a decade, the IDSP has diligently published a report every week of the year about the outbreak of diseases in India. But inexplicably, the agency best equipped and with most expertise to track and survey the spread of the coronavirus pandemic in India, has not published a single report since 2 February, when it recorded India’s first COVID-19 cases.
“This was the whole point of setting up the organisation,” an expert in global public-health told me, speaking on the condition of anonymity. They’ve been preparing for a pandemic like this all their lives. Now the pandemic is upon us, where is NCDC? Across the world, CDCs are leading pandemic response, but in India, the response is led by the ICMR, with the NCDC being invisible when it is most needed.” Three months into the fight against COVID-19, multiple epidemiologists and public-health experts, including one senior official from the Indian Council of Medical Research, said that the NCDC was neither sharing data with the ICMR, nor regularly attending pandemic-response meetings.
The novel coronavirus pandemic is not just the NCDC’s gravest test, but in fact its raison d’être. Broadly speaking, the health ministry gets its data from two major sources: the IDSP, which has the larger data set, comprising information gathered from contact-tracing operations, quarantine centres, and airports; and the ICMR which gets testing data from laboratories. But since 2 February, the IDSP has not disclosed its data.
According to my interviews with at least three scientists and epidemiologists involved with the government’s pandemic response, the issue of the IDSP withholding data was raised at a meeting that included Harsh Vardhan, the union health minister. On 27 March, Vardhan had constituted a “High Level Committee” to review the COVID-19 situation in India. The committee held its first meeting four days later. According to the scientists and epidemiologists privy to the events that transpired during the meeting, when the attendees raised the issue, Vardhan refused to make the data public. They told me that Vardhan claimed he had “in-house experts.” He did not explain why in-house experts precluded the NCDC from sharing the data.
“I don’t know who these in-house experts are,” one of the epidemiologists said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “The ICMR has a task force headed by a paediatrician, a cardiologist, and a pulmonologist. They are clinicians with no background and training in epidemiology but are leading the task force. It has become a rubber stamp for the government’s decisions.” Vinod Paul, the chairperson of the task force, is a paediatrician by training. Balram Bhargava, the director general of the ICMR and a co-chair of the task force, is a cardiologist. Randeep Guleria, the director of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences, New Delhi and a member of the task force, is a pulmonologist.
“There is a total opacity as far as data is concerned,” the epidemiologist told me. “Whatever is being put in the public domain is suspect, and the conclusions and inferences drawn from it are erroneous.” He added that there is no communication between the IDSP and the ICMR. “Both are holding on to their own data. Information is power and nobody wants to share it. If made available to the public or at least the researchers, it would have informed them where the epidemic is heading, and what are correct remedial measures.” According to a second epidemiologist who also wished to remain anonymous, the situation was effectively a turf war between the NCDC and the ICMR. “The left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing,” the epidemiologist told me. “It is a cliche but it’s true.”
The withholding of this information has left the government’s academic partners, scientists and researchers in the dark about the scale of the pandemic and how to respond to it. For instance, a national scientific task force, which was constituted to advise the central government, had appointed a research group of epidemiologists to track the spread of the virus in India. But due to the NCDC not publishing any report, the research group has been working without access to critical data gained from IDSP’s surveillance units. Most pertinently, it does not have data about the contact tracing that has been conducted since India’s first COVID-19 outbreak, on 30 January.
The lack of data has a cascading effect in terms of India’s testing policy as well. The withheld data includes contact-tracing information and data from surveillance of influenza-like illnesses, both of which are important for epidemiologists to understand the course of the virus and predict future trends that could potentially save lives. According to the scientists and epidemiologists I spoke with, this failure to share data was at the core of India’s failing containment measures.
“You want to know why containment measures have failed?” the second epidemiologist asked. “Because we did not follow every person who was a primary contact, test, isolate her in time. Testing has been done, result has not come, so tracking has not been done and it has fuelled the epidemic. It takes up to 14 days to get test results, and in that time the person is already transmitting the disease in the community. That is why there is widespread community transmission right now.” As cases mount, Karnataka, Delhi, West Bengal, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra and Telangana have all reported a testing backlog.
Unlike most countries, where the respective CDCs are leading the pandemic response—with Dr Anthony Fauci from the United States’ CDC earning global recognition—in India, the response is led by a research organization: the ICMR. “This is not their job,” a third epidemiologist, who also requested anonymity, told me. “The NCDC is built to track epidemics. Where are they? Every country has their CDC leading from the front, except India.”
https://caravanmagazine.in/health/e...l-withheld-covid-19-data-since-pandemic-began
Vidya Krishnan, 12 May 2020
In the first week of February, the Integrated Disease Surveillance Programme (IDSP), a government initiative under the health ministry’s National Centre for Disease Control (NCDC), recorded in its weekly report that India had reported its first three positive cases of COVID-19. The IDSP tracks the spread of diseases in India and publishes a weekly report of outbreaks on its website. For over a decade, the IDSP has diligently published a report every week of the year about the outbreak of diseases in India. But inexplicably, the agency best equipped and with most expertise to track and survey the spread of the coronavirus pandemic in India, has not published a single report since 2 February, when it recorded India’s first COVID-19 cases.
“This was the whole point of setting up the organisation,” an expert in global public-health told me, speaking on the condition of anonymity. They’ve been preparing for a pandemic like this all their lives. Now the pandemic is upon us, where is NCDC? Across the world, CDCs are leading pandemic response, but in India, the response is led by the ICMR, with the NCDC being invisible when it is most needed.” Three months into the fight against COVID-19, multiple epidemiologists and public-health experts, including one senior official from the Indian Council of Medical Research, said that the NCDC was neither sharing data with the ICMR, nor regularly attending pandemic-response meetings.
The novel coronavirus pandemic is not just the NCDC’s gravest test, but in fact its raison d’être. Broadly speaking, the health ministry gets its data from two major sources: the IDSP, which has the larger data set, comprising information gathered from contact-tracing operations, quarantine centres, and airports; and the ICMR which gets testing data from laboratories. But since 2 February, the IDSP has not disclosed its data.
According to my interviews with at least three scientists and epidemiologists involved with the government’s pandemic response, the issue of the IDSP withholding data was raised at a meeting that included Harsh Vardhan, the union health minister. On 27 March, Vardhan had constituted a “High Level Committee” to review the COVID-19 situation in India. The committee held its first meeting four days later. According to the scientists and epidemiologists privy to the events that transpired during the meeting, when the attendees raised the issue, Vardhan refused to make the data public. They told me that Vardhan claimed he had “in-house experts.” He did not explain why in-house experts precluded the NCDC from sharing the data.
“I don’t know who these in-house experts are,” one of the epidemiologists said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “The ICMR has a task force headed by a paediatrician, a cardiologist, and a pulmonologist. They are clinicians with no background and training in epidemiology but are leading the task force. It has become a rubber stamp for the government’s decisions.” Vinod Paul, the chairperson of the task force, is a paediatrician by training. Balram Bhargava, the director general of the ICMR and a co-chair of the task force, is a cardiologist. Randeep Guleria, the director of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences, New Delhi and a member of the task force, is a pulmonologist.
“There is a total opacity as far as data is concerned,” the epidemiologist told me. “Whatever is being put in the public domain is suspect, and the conclusions and inferences drawn from it are erroneous.” He added that there is no communication between the IDSP and the ICMR. “Both are holding on to their own data. Information is power and nobody wants to share it. If made available to the public or at least the researchers, it would have informed them where the epidemic is heading, and what are correct remedial measures.” According to a second epidemiologist who also wished to remain anonymous, the situation was effectively a turf war between the NCDC and the ICMR. “The left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing,” the epidemiologist told me. “It is a cliche but it’s true.”
The withholding of this information has left the government’s academic partners, scientists and researchers in the dark about the scale of the pandemic and how to respond to it. For instance, a national scientific task force, which was constituted to advise the central government, had appointed a research group of epidemiologists to track the spread of the virus in India. But due to the NCDC not publishing any report, the research group has been working without access to critical data gained from IDSP’s surveillance units. Most pertinently, it does not have data about the contact tracing that has been conducted since India’s first COVID-19 outbreak, on 30 January.
The lack of data has a cascading effect in terms of India’s testing policy as well. The withheld data includes contact-tracing information and data from surveillance of influenza-like illnesses, both of which are important for epidemiologists to understand the course of the virus and predict future trends that could potentially save lives. According to the scientists and epidemiologists I spoke with, this failure to share data was at the core of India’s failing containment measures.
“You want to know why containment measures have failed?” the second epidemiologist asked. “Because we did not follow every person who was a primary contact, test, isolate her in time. Testing has been done, result has not come, so tracking has not been done and it has fuelled the epidemic. It takes up to 14 days to get test results, and in that time the person is already transmitting the disease in the community. That is why there is widespread community transmission right now.” As cases mount, Karnataka, Delhi, West Bengal, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra and Telangana have all reported a testing backlog.
Unlike most countries, where the respective CDCs are leading the pandemic response—with Dr Anthony Fauci from the United States’ CDC earning global recognition—in India, the response is led by a research organization: the ICMR. “This is not their job,” a third epidemiologist, who also requested anonymity, told me. “The NCDC is built to track epidemics. Where are they? Every country has their CDC leading from the front, except India.”
https://caravanmagazine.in/health/e...l-withheld-covid-19-data-since-pandemic-began
This is fake, he made it to get tik tok views. He's not a laborer and a person cant walk 100km everyday for a week, the maths doesn't add up
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Man migrants have been shafted so bad its unreal. Why cant the govt use Air India planes or military equipment to transport them? Everyday I wake up to the news of some migrant dying somewhere. Its sickening.
There's always a tweet
Here CM Modi questioning PM Modi about PM Care Fund
Nobody can troll PM Modi better than CM Modi himself.
One, it doesn't care, because the poor can easily be manipulated during elections with religion, caste or just paying them off
Two, there is no plan in place and we are just making things up as we go.
That last video is soul destroying
Pretty sure govt is working hard to solve this problem.....
...... I mean the problem of media reporting these stuff
New education policy to be based on vedic science: HRD Minister
https://www.educationworld.in/new-education-policy-to-be-based-on-vedic-science-hrd-minister/
https://www.educationworld.in/new-education-policy-to-be-based-on-vedic-science-hrd-minister/
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Thank you for the follow up. Really. I needed that
Thanks for posting! A massive relief.
How true is this?
India’s ‘Maximum City’ Mumbai Engulfed by Coronavirus.
Overflowing hospitals. Exhausted cops. Desperate slums. Here are images from Mumbai as the coronavirus upends the metropolis.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/world/asia/mumbai-lockdown-coronavirus.html?
India’s ‘Maximum City’ Mumbai Engulfed by Coronavirus.
Overflowing hospitals. Exhausted cops. Desperate slums. Here are images from Mumbai as the coronavirus upends the metropolis.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/world/asia/mumbai-lockdown-coronavirus.html?
Absolute horrific videos coming out from Auria truck collision which resulted in deaths of 24 migrants workers.
I bloody hope life isn't kind to all those babus who are sitting in their air condtion office allowing this tragedy to unfold due to their inactions.
Edit : This is from MP where another accident took place
I bloody hope life isn't kind to all those babus who are sitting in their air condtion office allowing this tragedy to unfold due to their inactions.
Edit : This is from MP where another accident took place
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