Can't see any of them staying tbh. Giggs looked poor this season, and Macheda has been living off the back of that Villa goal. He has done very little since. Had it not been for that goal, i really don't think he has done much else to justify any predictions of him ever making it here.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Can't see any of them staying tbh. Giggs looked poor this season, and Macheda has been living off the back of that Villa goal. He has done very little since. Had it not been for that goal, i really don't think he has done much else to justify any predictions of him ever making it here.
Nah, Bilbao players tend to be extremely loyal. I can see both staying on.
When a player is this talented, I don't think it matters whether a position needs strengthening or not (which I think it probably does). Next Iniesta.
The club should do everything possible to get this lad.
Hes a very special talent in the making.
Hes a very special talent in the making.
I think he'll likely go to either Barcelona or Real Madrid and I base this on absolutely nothing.
Historically this is true. But these are special players and Bilboa have missed out on the CL. You may be right about them staying but only for a season I think at most.
This kid is going to be a world beater. His drive and enthusiasm for such a young age will have impressed Fergie, especially yesterday. It was not a great performance from him but he tried hard and was always looking for the ball and driving forward endlessly. Might be a cheaper alternative than Hazard, and could arguably be a better player in the future.
He wasnt involved much too start with, but when they were chasing the game he really camea live from 70+ minutes.
Came deep too get the ball and ran at the opposition playing neat passes and getting in good spaces.
You could see how desperately he wanted too win it obviously ment alot too him.
He certainly has what fergie looks for anyway, would love for us too be able to take him on.
Came deep too get the ball and ran at the opposition playing neat passes and getting in good spaces.
You could see how desperately he wanted too win it obviously ment alot too him.
He certainly has what fergie looks for anyway, would love for us too be able to take him on.
At least Fergie with Gill could try ask for him.
He represents truly worthy football level of United's ambitions.
He represents truly worthy football level of United's ambitions.
Actually they're called Athletic Club but are often name Athletic Bilbao, something that the club and fans don't like. They really like their English roots. Makes them so more less Spanish
Yeah, I noticed they insisted on that but I would be too pedantic to insist on everyone calling them that but getting the city wrong is a different cup of tea. It's the sort of thing that people do with some tin pot team from an obscure league with impenetrable spelling. Bilbao is no tall order.
I think we're in a dreamworld if we think we're getting munain. Any interest at all and city will steam in and cock block us. There are at least three players that we're targeting that city are trying to gazump us on, hazard being the obvious one. Their policy since tevez has been to stop us getting any top talents by signing them themselves.
I will make this my mission then! The next step from stopping people calling Atletico Madrid Athletico Madrid.
Three players? What are you basing this on?
I don't think we'll get him because we haven't shown ambition like that in the transfer market for five seasons but maybe the massive weaknesses we have in comparison with some of our rivals will finally change that
You can't see any slight flaw with this alleged plan?
Well I appreciate they can't sign everyone but they can block our top targets. Im not sure why people would imagine that munain would be cheaper than hazard. He's super highly rated in spain and it would cost gazillions to get him.
5 seasons? Nani, Anderson, Hargreaves, tevez, berbatov, de gea.
Well most recently they bought nasri last year after we'd agreed terms with him just so that we couldn't get him.
'Cos they're too stupid to have any plans of their own obviously.
And yet Bebe slipped through their net. Fergie sure gazumped them there!
Nani and Anderson were unproven when we bought them. One of them turned out to be very good, the other has been rather average and given his price tag, dare I say a bit crap. Hargreaves was overpaid, no one else at the time wanted him and Bayern must have been delighted to get £17m for him. We were the only ones in for Berbatov and De Gea. Truth is whenever we've faced competition, we folded, unless like in Jones and Smalling cases it was competition from weaker and poorer rivals like Arsenal and Liverpool. We can't compete with Real, Barca and City. We have history on City but few players care about that, we've got nothing on Barca and Real.
Well firstly city wanted berbatov. Secondly nani and Anderson were just as highly rated as munain when we bought them.
You can't just discount them because they don't fit in with your argument.
Anderson was actually really, really highly rated and Berbatov was wanted by City, and they even lodged a bid for him.
It's an old habit of yours to downplay everything related to United though, so I'm not sure if it's any worth arguing with you.
I hate City! Nasri would have been perfect for us.
They missed a real gem there.
Anderson won the best player at the U17's World Cup and looked very promising in first two pro seasons at Porto. He was one of the highest rated young players in the World when we signed him.
Christ in 2008 We had Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez. Scholes - 4 years, Van Der Sar, Evra and Rio in their prime, an up and coming Vidic and two of the World best young players in Nani and Anderson.
Those were good times to be a United fan.
No, it's not.
Berbatov was only wanted by City on the last day, they were taken over by sheikhs day or two before.
Anderson was rated highly on the back of an U17 tournament. We also paid top dollar for him, wasn't it €30m? It was a very exciting transfer, shame about how it's panned out.
You're probably right about Nani and Anderson being on par with Muniain, especially Nani, although Muniain has got more hype around him. There was no City back then though, Barcelona and Real weren't as obscenely rich as they are now either.
For an obscenely rich club Real have been accumulating a lot of debt. And Barca were in the embarrassing position, not so long ago, of having to take out a loan to pay their players wages.
Disagree, my perception was that Anderson was somewhat of an unknown and whilst Nani was being linked for around a year prior to the transfer he was also being linked with Spurs.... compare that to Muniain, now I dont know if he's being linked with anyone in Spain yet but common consensus on here that I can gauge is that we've got next to no chance of actually signing him be it the transfer fee he'd command or rival interest from the likes of Real/Barca
Eh? Barca and real weren't obscenely rich five years ago? Garbage. And for city see Chelsea. You're trying to make a point that's utter nonsense.
Neither real nor barca were in for cristiano ronaldo. Just because they weren't in for a player it doesn't immediately mean they weren't/aren't highly rated.
What's Ronaldo got to do with it? I was replying merely to the idea that either Nani or Anderson were as highly rated back then as Muniain is now
You were talking about who they were being linked to as an indicator as to their potential. It's not as simple as that.
Isn't it? In regards to Nani and Anderson I'd say it is exactly that simple. Nani's a great player for us and he'd no doubt do a job for the likes of Real and Barca but he's never going to be at the top of either's shopping list hence why neither are comparable potential/talent wise to Muniain
It's funny that you mention Ronaldo because it's at that level this lad has got the potential to reach, his strength on the ball for such a small boy coupled with his movement, passing and ability to run with the ball was incredible last night, dare I say it was Messi like
I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 or 3 years the whole Spanish national team wasn't built around this player
Indeed; my memory is that they were taken over on the last day of the window and immediately fired-off massive bids on a variety of high-profile players (the rumours that day were ridiculous). They got Robinho who had been pursued by Chelsea, and they bid for Berba who we'd been linked with all summer. Before that it seemed that the deal was slowly heading for £25-27m based on specualation. Once City bid we had to match/top it, hence the slightly odd £30.75m final bid.
Given how far City have come since then and with the promise of constant re-investment to keep the team challenging, then is there much hope that a similar situation would end our way again? Tevez and Nasri suggests not, and soon Hazard also (assuming we are in for him in reality). Would a theoretical battle for Muniain be any different?
He'd do nicely for our 4th winger/3rd striker slot.
He wouldn't be fourth winger.
With Aguero and Silva on either side of a front 3, I don't think Muniain would be a starter for them. But I think he'd be a starter for us, so that would be a plus.
Muniain is a player I rate and think we would do very well to snap up, but currently I can't see how we fit him into the squad. Unless there is a surprise departure like Nani or Hernandez then i cant see why we would spend a lot of money on positions we are well stocked in.