Ronaldo all day and twice on sundays, in fact Id take fat Ronaldo if it meant not having to look at bale week in week out. 
If given a choice....
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
I don't buy the age issue. Ronaldo at 28/29 is in the prime of his career and given that he's one of the best conditioned footballers in the world, is likely to maintain a very high level of play into his early 30s and beyond. Zidane was the same age when he moved from Juve to Madrid and they ended up getting 5 very productive years out of him. I see Ronaldo going down that same road. He's versatile enough to take on evolving roles with increased age and experience.
Second option, easily.
It is and it isn't. If you have a finite amount of money, which we probably do, you have to prioritise. I reckon Ronaldo would probably improve us more than a top notch midfielder, but obviously you'd have both if you could afford it.
I'd prefer a Bender to Strootman.
Difference is Ronaldo needs his pace more than Zidane. Besides Ronaldo offers very little defensively, so if he loses his pace he might suddenly become a vulnerability for us (like Ronaldinho?). If we get the chance to improve our midfield and add a very good and young player in Bale then it's a chance that we shouldn't turn down IMO.
If Ronaldo was 24 then it would have been a tougher decision, as we could probably build a new team around him (like we did before he left), but now, no thanks, we moved on and a midfielder + Bale would help us (IMO) build a better team for the future.
I forgot about him. Don't think we would go wrong with the Neverkusen Bender.
I don't think its a difficult decision. Bale will NEVER be as good as Ronaldo and we would probably buy a midfielder at some point anyway if Ronaldo returned to OT.
By far Ronaldo. He can guarantee 50+ goals a season
Yeah, though the Dortmund one isn't half bad either.
I reckon he (Lars) would be a great buy.
Ronaldo won't be as good as he is now for much longer. Even if Bale doesn't get to Ronaldo's level (which I agree he won't) he's 5 years younger than Ronaldo and will likely give us 5 more years than Ronaldo could.
Of what precisely ? Ronaldo is a transformational player and can knock in 30-40 goals a year. We could easily march on with Ronaldo and Nani in attack without the need to buy Bale. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if we bought him, just not at the expense of Ronaldo.
Goals aren't really a problem for us though, we've scored more in these last two years than we ever have before.
The only question regarding Ronaldo that I'd even think twice on would be Ronaldo or Messi, and even then I'd probably go Ronaldo as he's been so successful here and wouldn't need any transition.
I'd swap Rooney or VP for Ronaldo in an instance, no disrespect to either who are clearly top players.
Wouldn't swap either of those for Bale, who whilst clearly a really quality player will never be Ronaldo level.
I'd swap Rooney or VP for Ronaldo in an instance, no disrespect to either who are clearly top players.
Wouldn't swap either of those for Bale, who whilst clearly a really quality player will never be Ronaldo level.
I would go for gotze and another midfielder that can cover for Carrick. Gotze seems to be able to play anywhere in the final third and if my memory isn't addled by too much booze, I remember him playing deeper in midfield at one point. That would solve many of our current issues and gotze is definitely the type of player that we seem to go after.
Apparently (according to goal.com ) we are interested in Bale.. But...
Source: goal.com
However, IMO there is a strong hint in the article that it's totally 100% bullshit. Why would Tottenham set a price for Bale in euros?!
) we are interested in Bale.. But...Source: goal.com
However, IMO there is a strong hint in the article that it's totally 100% bullshit. Why would Tottenham set a price for Bale in euros?!
goal.com is an international website so they use €.
So Tottenham's price was 69 million pounds? Looks like a random number to me, and doesn't make sense since the euro-pound conversion rate is variable with time, so Tottenham would not set the price in euros.
Also, the story should always carry the original figure, and then if they want, they can put the price in euro besides it. Same with the Ronaldo transfer story, the main figure was 80 million pounds, not the 94 million euros.
It's possible that Levy was making a sexual pass to Gill by quoting that amount to him.
A midfielder and Bale without a shadow of a doubt.
You can't get the best out of Ronaldo if you play with two strikers up top, so bringing him into our setup would mean shifting Rooney and/or RVP into a more defensive/deeper role. That's all well and good to a degree, but would we really score any more goals than we currently do with two bona fide strikers? I doubt it.
At least if we buy Bale we know he'll still be happy to play a wide role - plus his crossing is arguably better than Ronaldo's. He'd also bring balance to the left hand side.
I don't think I need to argue the merits of buying a midfielder since about a half of the posts made in the last few years have already made that case.
You can't get the best out of Ronaldo if you play with two strikers up top, so bringing him into our setup would mean shifting Rooney and/or RVP into a more defensive/deeper role. That's all well and good to a degree, but would we really score any more goals than we currently do with two bona fide strikers? I doubt it.
At least if we buy Bale we know he'll still be happy to play a wide role - plus his crossing is arguably better than Ronaldo's. He'd also bring balance to the left hand side.
I don't think I need to argue the merits of buying a midfielder since about a half of the posts made in the last few years have already made that case.
Yeah I saw him in a friendly first then watched more of him and my assessment was proved right and is continuing to be proved right today. Disagree?
That is a shit reason for wanting Strootman to be honest.
Ronaldo all the time!. I can't believe some are even contemplating debating it. Let alone talking about Ronaldo in defensive terms.
A good midfielder and Bale. CR is getting on now, and any move for him would be short term, and would require yet more overlooking of the midfield area. However, if the CR rumours developed into more than that, i cannot say i wouldn't be thrilled to see him alongside our current wealth of attacking talent.
But hypothetically, for me an all round midfielder such as Wilshire along with Bale, even for a combined £80m would be far more beneficial for us in both the long and short term. Both have great ability and plenty of scope for improvement, CR may be on top now, but chances are his level will drop rather than climb any higher. So a no-brainer for me given the 2 choices.
It's worth debating because Ronaldo is far older, and left to fulfill a dream elsewhere after losing his motivation after mopping up with us.
how much longer will he stay at his current level? 3 years maybe 4? Both Bale and Wilshire, are far younger and while Bale isn't as good as Ronaldo, he would offer many attributes that Ronaldo would provide, whilst maintaining a reasonable scope to improve further. Wilshire who would be my choice of CM, is also young, very talented and just what we need in the middle.
Ronaldo will give us goals, but we are hardly lacking in that department atm! Bale would still give us a ronaldo like capacity to hurt opponents with pace and power and goal threat, while Wilshire would vastly improve our ball retention, imagination and playmaking through the middle.
So for me, i am surprised so many don't even think signing 2 huge talents on their way to the top, is worth debating against signing a far older former player, who is going to be past his prime in a few years.
I know.. The better choice is clearly Bale and another midfielder.
Ronaldo has just reached the peak of his powers. He also never lost motivation with us. Rather, he just left to fulfill his childhood dream, a dream which he told us of the very day he signed for us. A dream which he has now fulfilled. Getting him back would be us getting arguably the best player on the planet, at his peak ready to retire with us, already used to how we play. Bale pales in any comparison really.
I'm willing to bet 5 or 6. But 4 is all we need from him to dominate in Europe ad at a home.
So? None of them are as good nor will have the same impact. I'd rather bring him in and then go the Newcastle route and sign a good solid midfielder on the cheap. Than blowing 70 mil on the untested duo of Bale and Wilshere.
I see no reason to wait 4 year to challenge the likes of Barca. Sign a Ronaldo again now and you automatically get up there.
No. Ronaldo will give us simply the world's second most devastating attacking weapon on the planet. Making our attack arguably the best on the planet bar none. Ronaldo adds much more than mere goals.
We don't need to break the bank for a Wilshere to improve our midfield. Furthermore, banks should only be broken for men of Ronaldo's caliber. Which neither Bale nor Wilshere is....
Ronaldo all day and twice on sundays, in fact Id take fat Ronaldo if it meant not having to look at bale week in week out.
You must be tapped, Ronaldo yes but anyone who wouldn't like Bale here must be mad!
Gotze and a midfielder, definitely. Our team would be absolutely sorted for years.
If we want to win the league in next 5 or so years, Bale plus another world class midfielder will do it. However, If we want to really challenge to become the best team in the world again, Ronaldo is the answer, as he is the only player in the world who could take us to a level of beating Barcelona.
As i have said Chief, i would be thrilled to see ronaldo line up here again. However, i still believe bale is a Ronaldo type player although agreed not as good, but with more experience and by playing in a far better team, (ours
) he still has plenty of scope to improve further.Re: Wilshire. Our achilles heel in europe recently has been our inability to maintain good possession against good teams who close down quickly in midfield. Which is getting to be a lot of them tbf! The quality of our attackers will always give us chances, but i don't feel we see enough of our strikers at times. I feel we need a player like Wilshire who is comfortable carrying the ball through the middle, who commits opponents and bring our forwards into play higher up the pitch and more often.
So it's not that i don't want ronaldo, why wouldn't i? But only that i think we would still have a very dangerous player in the mould of CR, with Bale. Whilst gaining a potentially world class all round English CM in wilshire too. He is hardly a box to box like toure, but i do see him as similar to modric.
Ronaldo would obviously improve our attack, but Bale and Wilshire would improve both our attack and our midfield, and probably for longer too. Not much point in having the best attack on the planet, if our midfield doesn't keep the ball long enough to give them regular service. Let's not forget that we had arguably the worlds best attack when we played Barca in the first final, but they never saw the ball, so what good did it do us? That's my thinking anyway on why the issue is worthy of debate, despite agreeing with the undeniable benefits of resigning ronaldo.
This without doubt....Ronaldo would never ever come back here...I would bet any amount of cash on it regadless of what rubbish is coming out in the tabloids
How much is 'any amount' exactly?
I enjoyed the way you smoothly transitioned from certain and specific in your proclamation, to uncertain and vague when stating how much cash you were willing to gamble upon your conviction!
Or hidden option #3: two undiscovered, soon-to-be-world class midfielders who come cheap!!!!
Ok.
Well we have signed Zaha and probably a midfielder for £15-20m in the summer just not Bale and Wilshire. That is just fantasy football would be major surprised if we spent more than £20m in the summer and these 3 cost £50m+ each.
People who think Ronaldo's age is a worry need to give their heads a shake. He's quite possibly the most physically fit and dedicated athlete on the planet. He doesn't even rely on his pace that much any more, and that attribute will not magically disappear when he's 32. That's just not how physiology works. The guy obsessively controls every aspect of his diet and daily life to ensure peak physical performance, its also why he seems so resilient to injury (obviously there's an element of chance in that as well, but its still a relevant factor) and continues to get better as he ages. Eventually age will take its toll, but I doubt we'll see significant decline before age 33/34. Even then, he'll still be the strongest player around with dominant aerial ability and a danger from 40 yards with either foot.
Ronaldo every day of the week for me.
Ronaldo = Goals (and a lot of them too)
Goals win games
Games won = trophies.
Yeah, Bale is a great player, scores a good few goals and is younger. Plus add Strootman to the mix as well and that makes option two very, very appealing. But for me that still doesn’t appeal more than having Ronaldo back!
Ronaldo = Goals (and a lot of them too)
Goals win games
Games won = trophies.
Yeah, Bale is a great player, scores a good few goals and is younger. Plus add Strootman to the mix as well and that makes option two very, very appealing. But for me that still doesn’t appeal more than having Ronaldo back!
Exactly, Summit. As great as option two sounds, option one is Cristiano Ronaldo ffs!