What transfer ever is?
If given a choice....
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Ronaldo
It's not though.
What if he breaks his leg?
What if he breaks his leg?
But still not fully certain.
Ronaldo. I can't understand why this is even debatable.
Stop playing silly Cina, I mean Bale could lose his legs in a car crash a week after signing.
Take injuries out of it and talk about the signings, Bale & Strootman are far from certain to be "better in the long run", we have no idea about how signing them would turn out. Ronaldo on the other hand, we it's a certainty isn't it, he'd improve us massively and he'd be scoring at a rate of about 1 goal per game.
Gotze and one of Wilshere/Modric. Ronaldo can come back in 2016 as a free player if he wants.
How am I playing silly? They're much younger so in theory would be better in the long run for us. I already said Ronaldo would guarantee us more trophies short term so I don't know why you're even debating this with me. In five years time what's more likely, Ronaldo to still be devastating (aged 33) or Bale and Strootman to be instrumental (at their peak) ?
We're talking about future transfers here, absolutely nothing is certain.
Ronaldo coming here would be the end for a lot of our players though. Just imagine Ronaldo, Rooney and RVP playing in every game. It will be extremely hard to balance the team, and we will need to sell the likes of Nani, Hernandez and probably one or two others. The only way the Ronaldo move will make sense IMO is if we offload one of Rooney/RVP.
Yes I would.
I would take them over Ronaldo, and I prefer Ronaldo to Messi so it's the same decision for me.
How many clubs would turn down Cristiano Ronaldo for Gareth Bale and a midfielder ? I don't think any.
For the record, I'd buy Ronaldo, he'd be more likely to win us a few more trophies under SAF, but I can understand why people who choose Bale and Strootman, as long term options, they'd be great, and would leave whatever manager takes the reigns when SAF retires a very strong squad.
Ok.....Strootman, Bale and Ronaldo.
The rest of the teams can just pack up and go home
The rest of the teams can just pack up and go home
Difficult choice but if you are looking at the longterm then it would have to be Bale and Gotze...
Strootman is getting undeserved credit in this thread.
That is all.
That is all.
Ronaldo. Bale will cry wanting to go to Madrid in a few season, Ronaldo probably retire with us if he comes again, and it'll be worth the fairy tale in the book of football
With the element of taking Ronaldo back, or having a winger and a midfielder come in, sorry Ronnie but I'd take Bale and a Midfielder. To be fair, we have plenty on game winners already in the frontline, maybe not to Ronnie's calibre, but as a squad we have enough firepower.
We need depth really. Bale to replace Giggs, decent CM to give us another dimension there. That would give us a decent squad that.
We need depth really. Bale to replace Giggs, decent CM to give us another dimension there. That would give us a decent squad that.
Mourinho will bring Modric and Ronaldo with him to United, obviously.
Is Strootman better than Cleverley?
Haven't seen much of him but doesn't strike me as a droolworthy signing.
Haven't seen much of him but doesn't strike me as a droolworthy signing.
People do realize that not signing a midfielder means being left with just Ando, Cleverley and Carrick next season ?
He's more a Carrick than a Cleverley tbh. Don't get the fuss anyway. He's decent to good but yeah not droolworthy.
Oh yeah, these UK players are well known for crying that they want to join Madrid
None of them are ever good enough to warrant anything though
I'd only Recall Beckham, Owen, Woodgate, the rest are probably not deemed galactico enough to go there honestly
Doesn't work like that sadly. At the start of the season we could say:
RVP, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Kagawa, Nani and Valencia, who needs a midfield?
RVP's unfit, Rooney's uncertain at the mo. Welbeck's not playing a goalscoring role. Hernandez can be hit and miss. Kagawa gets played out of position. Nani and Valencia are both bang out of form.
Then you rely on Carrick and Cleverley, both of whom were clearly knackered after Madrid.
That all said, I'm not too bothered about a top class midfielder, but one who can come in and do a job. Basically an upgrade on Anderson. If you get a top class midfielder in, who do you drop? Him, Carrick or Cleverley?
Bale irritates the shit out of me with his perpetual diving, and part of the reason United fans don't take to Young I think is because of his diving. On the other hand, he'd be cheaper and younger than Ronaldo, leaving room to get that decent midfielder in.
Wut ?
Beckham we pretty much forced out while Woodgate was injury prone and Owen on a free and on a downward curve.
I don't want Ronaldo back at all so option 2 by default.
The option with the midfielder - every single time. It's been like six years since we last bought a central-midfielder in Hargreaves, and since then we've pretty regularly played guys out of position to do a job there to varying degrees of success (Park, Giggs, Rafael, Kagawa, Rooney and Jones being the obvious examples) while we've lost Hargreaves, Scholes (the first retirement), Fletcher (he's been ill a long time now sadly), Gibson, Pogba and several other reserve midfielders - we are fecking due a signing there!!
Obviously Ronaldo is never coming back, but as a fantasy it is obviously quite pant-tightening - however the reality of the situation? I'm not sure; he had six great years here but part of that time he was trying to get away from here, which sours things slightly for me. That said I accepted Rooney back after his fiasco, so I'm quite forgiving and big-hearted clearly
Obviously Ronaldo is never coming back, but as a fantasy it is obviously quite pant-tightening - however the reality of the situation? I'm not sure; he had six great years here but part of that time he was trying to get away from here, which sours things slightly for me. That said I accepted Rooney back after his fiasco, so I'm quite forgiving and big-hearted clearly
Never really understood that until the days before our recent CL Madrid games. Even with one of the bests squads in global football, we were all petrified of what Ronaldo would so to us. And without even getting close to his capabilities, he still won them the tie with two goals.
God knows how lesser teams than ours feel when preparing to face him! Add him to Rooney, RVP, Nani and Kagawa ... WOW!
Muppet in me is screaming Wilshere, and Bale. Although not a patch on Ronaldo ability wise they are significantly younger.
Rooney not galactico enough? Lampard who Jose wanted to take? Gerrard who Jose wanted?
In short, you're talking nonsense, UK players tend to see Manchester United or another top English team as the pinnacle, not fecking Real Madrid.
I don't think Freak was genuinely suggesting playing a 4-0-6 formation with no midfield.
Tbf, those 3 are not Barcelona / Madrid class, the rest of the world aren't probably much better than Chelsea, United, and if Gerrard wasn't mr.liverpool he'd probably lured a move on his prime.
Let's not kid ourself the likes of Lampard, Gerrard, and even Rooney can walk into their starting 11, even on their prime
I know he wasn't, but it's an argument I've seen a lot. Sign X and we won't need a midfield. People would suggest us having RVP and Rooney and a 'shit' midfield backs this up.
Wow, just fecking wow!
Er? I'm not saying this is the case, but if it is, that you rely on midfield. Settle.
Why are we bringing Barcelona into this?
We know that Jose wanted both Lampard and Gerrard to join him at Madrid. And are you fecking kidding me denying Rooney? There has been various stages of Rooney's career where Real Madrid would've bitten our hands off for him.
As I said, it's pretty much known that UK players don't see Madrid as a pinnacle over the likes of United so I'm not sure why you're debating it.
Hmmmm...tough one.
Can't we sell Valencia, Young, Anderson, Bebe, Macheda etc. and just buy all 3?
I'd take Ronnie back, but this is a decision based on the heart because my head is telling me that the better (future) deal is Bale + Strootman/whoever!
Yeah, let's sell everybody not in out starting 11!!!!
Simple and probably correct.
I think United's midfield is criminally weak for a team of its stature. No matter by how much of a difference you win the league here and there, everything else being equal, a proper midfielder for your current level (and that means one of the top 5-10ish in the world, at the very least, to partner Carrick) would take you a notch above in terms of game dominance. This means more exhibitional consistency and added pleasure for the fans.
I keep thinking "they are so strong, but could be a lot stronger with just one good (and expensive) signing".
Ronaldo doesn't come into it, any club should go for him given the chance. Whether he comes or not, you need a midfielder.