Option no 2 obviously
If given a choice....
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Madrid have been linked with Cole, Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Giggs among others. Hell they were even linked with Sol Campbell at one point who would have been a improvement over their defenders.
Mcmanaman was a important squad player for them even in the galactico era ffs. Not sure exactly what you are trying to argue here ? Who was the last british player to engineer a move to Madrid ?
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Ronaldo.
Not true...
http://odds.bestbetting.com/football/champions-league/winner/
Real are favourites and if Barca turn it round, they'd be.
Yes they would.
Why is everyone going on about Strootman FFS.
I bet the majority haven't seen him play!
I bet the majority haven't seen him play!
More goals are not what this team needs, and that's all Ronaldo will provide us with. If we had Ronaldo right now, and played Barcelona again then the chances are they would piss all over us again.
Strootman.
That's the whole point of the transfer forum, isn't it?
I'm warming to the idea of Cabaye, there's definitely a bit of Scholesy in there.
Is it? I must have missed that part. It just seems trendy to shout about Strootman at the moment. I have heard he is decent but can't say I would prefer the guy over Ronaldo as I don't regularly watch Eredivisie.
Yeah, I'm a fan of his as well. I don't know if he's quite up to the level we want, but I really like him. Hard to tell how good he is in the team he's playing for, but even then, he looks quite good.
He's 28 or so; so that would help tide us over until some of our young players are ready to take over as first choice players (and I don't think Cleverley is ready yet).
Not the way they've played in the last few weeks, the team who needed a dubious red card to beat us managed to beat them quite convincingly twice in a row.
I'm sure you didn't regularly watch the Brasileirão either when you were raving about Lucas! A couple of clips or a couple of cameo appearances are enough for people to get excited, 'tis the way of the transfer forum.
Ah, I'd not quite realised he was 27 years old. Still a few years off his peak but I was thinking we should go for him on the basis he was 24 and with plenty of years to make that next step up. I do agree we could do with a bit of experience in there so we don't overburden our young midfielders though.
We could probably get Modric for a similar price to Cabaye and I think Modric is a level above Cabaye, either way a player like those two or Moutinho would be ideal. We still need cover for Carrick as well.
If we keep Nani I don't think our wingers are a problem, especially as we have so many other players capable of going out wide as well.
Ronaldo in the short term would be excellent but I personally think he'll drop a few levels once he loses his pace, I'd rather see us strengthen the midfield. Plus Ronaldo had his chance here and wanted out and spent his prime in Madrid. No thanks.
If we keep Nani I don't think our wingers are a problem, especially as we have so many other players capable of going out wide as well.
Ronaldo in the short term would be excellent but I personally think he'll drop a few levels once he loses his pace, I'd rather see us strengthen the midfield. Plus Ronaldo had his chance here and wanted out and spent his prime in Madrid. No thanks.
Ronaldo isn't almost 29, he's only just turned 28.
He'll be at the beginning of next season.
He ain't coming now, is he Einstein?
He ain't coming now, is he Einstein?
This is actually a good question, on one hand Ronaldo would make our attack the best in the world by far, but a top 5-10 midfielder would make our team so much more balanced and would help us dominate the top teams, instead of having to sit back and play on the break always. If that article about Modric wanting to go to United is true, then that would be a perfect signing IMO. We need a player like him who can dictate the tempo of our play and provide creativity from the middle, and helping us in games where we are getting pressed highly because he is good on the ball.
Getting Modric, and either Bale or Gotze would probably improve our team more overall and better for the long run then just getting Ronaldo, as much as I like him.
Carrick Modric
Nani Rooney Bale
RVP
That would be an amazing lineup, and strong all over the pitch, instead of good defence and attack but a weak (compared to other top teams) midfield.
Getting Modric, and either Bale or Gotze would probably improve our team more overall and better for the long run then just getting Ronaldo, as much as I like him.
Carrick Modric
Nani Rooney Bale
RVP
That would be an amazing lineup, and strong all over the pitch, instead of good defence and attack but a weak (compared to other top teams) midfield.
Since you said the midfielder would be at the sort of 'Strootman' level, I would choose the first option.
Neither option is plausible. Ronaldo is not coming back here and there is no chance in hell we sign a midfielder.
Sadly, Ronnie is not what we need now
Ronaldo. I don't know enough about the others to say I'm sure they'll do well and how well they'll do.
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I saw enough of Lucas for Brazil and the odd individual game at club. To be fair I mentioned him before the big bandwagon developed.
This Strootman thing just seems OTT and I would be interested to know opinions from people who have seen him, rather than those that haven't. Out of all those harping on about Strootman, not one has said why!
Ronaldo. We can just play 4-0-6
B. Good as he is, there's a limit even to what Ronaldo could do with our limitations. However, with those limitations fixed, I believe this team has no limits.
The first and foremost position that needs to be addressed at the club is a suitable replacement in the squad for Fletcher and to take the workload off Carrick.
But that is off topic. Bale would provide a steady outlet on the left a more stable signing for me than Ronaldo (not player for player in ability). Also made a bet with a mate that I'd buy him a night with Angela White if Ronaldo came back to United in the summer. So I hope to feck that it doesn't happen.
But that is off topic. Bale would provide a steady outlet on the left a more stable signing for me than Ronaldo (not player for player in ability). Also made a bet with a mate that I'd buy him a night with Angela White if Ronaldo came back to United in the summer. So I hope to feck that it doesn't happen.
If it's just a good midfielder who won't be any more than another squad player like Strootman, plus Bale or Gotze, I'd take Ronaldo instead. I think with Ronaldo we'd be like we were awhile back, where teams just sat back and tried to nick a draw instead of actually taking us on. With that in mind, we wouldn't really need that great a midfield and having Ronaldo, Van Persie and Rooney in the same team should provide enough attacking strength to get goals.
I also think that while our midfield doesn't compare to the midfields of other clubs, they also haven't been all that bad either. Our midfield has held up in most of our biggest games this season and the only time that our midfield was actually piss poor was the home loss to Spurs this season. We do need more options in midfield, but I certainly wouldn't pass up the opportunity to bring the 2nd best player in the world to do it.
However if the 2 players were Wilshere and Bale or Reus, then Ronaldo can stay the feck in Madrid.
I also think that while our midfield doesn't compare to the midfields of other clubs, they also haven't been all that bad either. Our midfield has held up in most of our biggest games this season and the only time that our midfield was actually piss poor was the home loss to Spurs this season. We do need more options in midfield, but I certainly wouldn't pass up the opportunity to bring the 2nd best player in the world to do it.
However if the 2 players were Wilshere and Bale or Reus, then Ronaldo can stay the feck in Madrid.
Exactly.
Arruda has the most sensible answer here.
Bale and Wilshere, thank you.
You saw him play a 20 min friendly v a rubbish Scotland side and decided he was the best thing since sliced bread. That's fair game in the TF in the same way wanting Strootman purely because he was called the Dutch Roy Keane is entirely normal.
Ronaldo. If Messi is a footballing GOD then Ronaldo is Jesus. For me there isn't a massive difference to the level of performance both of these two turn out week after week. Nobody would turn Messi down, so why would you turn down Ronaldo? He is the only player that could even contemplate matching Messi and is the next best thing.
So no, I don't want some Welsh monkey looking fecker, who's only been consistantly brilliant for one season in his whole career + a midfielder I've never heard of, except on here, in place of one of the greatest talents in the history of football.
So no, I don't want some Welsh monkey looking fecker, who's only been consistantly brilliant for one season in his whole career + a midfielder I've never heard of, except on here, in place of one of the greatest talents in the history of football.
If the midfielder we signed was Wilshere to go along side Bale then I'd take that over Ronaldo. A midfield with Cleverley, Carrick and Wilshere would be 
. I wonder if he could be tempted away from Arsenal because he strikes me as the loyal type. But if Arsenal start missing out on CL spots he would have to be tempted. A player of his quality has to be playing at the highest level.
. I wonder if he could be tempted away from Arsenal because he strikes me as the loyal type. But if Arsenal start missing out on CL spots he would have to be tempted. A player of his quality has to be playing at the highest level.Sometimes I wonder if people read the OP. If they had, there would be no controversy over Strootman.
The choice is a good midfielder + Bale or Gotze. I mentioned Witsel or Strootman as personal choices, as they are two midfielders that I like and think can improve our team.
Admittedly, I haven't seen much of Strootman besides international friendlies, highlights, youtube videos, a Europa game and a couple of Eredivisie games, that we are fortunate enough to get. And that too after we were linked with him. From the little I have seen, he is a good midfielder, who can make contribution both in attack and in defense. I have a special liking for left footed players and we can definitely use one in the midfield now that Giggs cannot play every game. Strootman is an accurate passer, has a good shot, an eye for goal and defensive nous. He is already the Dutch captain at 23, which highlights that he has leadership qualities.
I don't know if he is "The" answer to our midfield but I like him.
I would take anyone from him, Witsel, Modric, Moutinho, Vidal or Marchisio (love him too). The idea was to choose a good midfielder and one from two of the most exciting wide players in world football, assuming the price would be similar to the quoted price for Ronaldo.
Messi did the dirty with Ronnie's mother? Or was he an immaculate conception.
No wonder he has a chip on his shoulder and is always trying to get one better of Messi.
#RescueRonnie
The choice is a good midfielder + Bale or Gotze. I mentioned Witsel or Strootman as personal choices, as they are two midfielders that I like and think can improve our team.
Admittedly, I haven't seen much of Strootman besides international friendlies, highlights, youtube videos, a Europa game and a couple of Eredivisie games, that we are fortunate enough to get. And that too after we were linked with him. From the little I have seen, he is a good midfielder, who can make contribution both in attack and in defense. I have a special liking for left footed players and we can definitely use one in the midfield now that Giggs cannot play every game. Strootman is an accurate passer, has a good shot, an eye for goal and defensive nous. He is already the Dutch captain at 23, which highlights that he has leadership qualities.
I don't know if he is "The" answer to our midfield but I like him.
I would take anyone from him, Witsel, Modric, Moutinho, Vidal or Marchisio (love him too). The idea was to choose a good midfielder and one from two of the most exciting wide players in world football, assuming the price would be similar to the quoted price for Ronaldo.
Messi did the dirty with Ronnie's mother?
Or was he an immaculate conception. No wonder he has a chip on his shoulder and is always trying to get one better of Messi.
#RescueRonnie
The correct answer is Ronaldo.
Agreed, it's not an either/or situation IMO
It really depends how much money we'd have to spend.
I honestly think to be able to afford just one of the players mentioned, we'd have to sell a good player who is in our first team. Despite the recent turn around of opinion, I think it'd be Nani who could still fetch £20m~. If we ended up getting Gotze, it'd probably be much more affordable (£45-50m w/ a midfielder), while Bale would probably be closer to £60m when including a good midfielder. Ronaldo would cost as much as that alone.
The immediate addition of Ronaldo would do us a lot of good, but I think his ego might clash with RvP and I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't play well together. We don't normally buy the finished article (other than RvP recently) and even though he's been here before, the decision would have a lot of thought put into it. As I said before, it's entirely down to the funds available. The sale of a player of Nani's calibre and our usual transfer kitty would fund Ronaldo easily, but I really don't think we could afford to go into a season with a midfield of Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson, Giggs, Jones and Powell. That's two players learning the trade (albeit with as much potential as anyone), a 40-year-old who will play once a week at best, admittedly two solid starters, and a hit-and-miss Anderson. There has to be another talent added.
If there's any chance of Ronaldo, Fergie will go for him first. Bale would be next on the list if the move for Ronaldo is impossible, before finally Gotze. If we can replace Nani with any of these and sign someone like Strootman then we're going to be stronger next season.
If I had to choose, I'd probably want Bale & Strootman. Two 23-year-olds on 5-year deals would please me. I do think Kagawa can work on that left side though, so Gotze's better ability to play on the right and not have to nearly always play Valencia (or shift Kagawa, Rooney, Welbeck out wide right) would be a plus.
I honestly think to be able to afford just one of the players mentioned, we'd have to sell a good player who is in our first team. Despite the recent turn around of opinion, I think it'd be Nani who could still fetch £20m~. If we ended up getting Gotze, it'd probably be much more affordable (£45-50m w/ a midfielder), while Bale would probably be closer to £60m when including a good midfielder. Ronaldo would cost as much as that alone.
The immediate addition of Ronaldo would do us a lot of good, but I think his ego might clash with RvP and I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't play well together. We don't normally buy the finished article (other than RvP recently) and even though he's been here before, the decision would have a lot of thought put into it. As I said before, it's entirely down to the funds available. The sale of a player of Nani's calibre and our usual transfer kitty would fund Ronaldo easily, but I really don't think we could afford to go into a season with a midfield of Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson, Giggs, Jones and Powell. That's two players learning the trade (albeit with as much potential as anyone), a 40-year-old who will play once a week at best, admittedly two solid starters, and a hit-and-miss Anderson. There has to be another talent added.
If there's any chance of Ronaldo, Fergie will go for him first. Bale would be next on the list if the move for Ronaldo is impossible, before finally Gotze. If we can replace Nani with any of these and sign someone like Strootman then we're going to be stronger next season.
If I had to choose, I'd probably want Bale & Strootman. Two 23-year-olds on 5-year deals would please me. I do think Kagawa can work on that left side though, so Gotze's better ability to play on the right and not have to nearly always play Valencia (or shift Kagawa, Rooney, Welbeck out wide right) would be a plus.
Clearly the second option.
Ronaldo is 28.
Ronaldo is 28.