If given a choice....

Forevergiggs

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Which option with you take:

(1) Ronaldo to United or
(2) A good midfielder + Bale/Gotze

I know it's a little too early to play the transfer muppetry game. Though the Ronaldo rumors are in full flow and this is a slow week, so what the heck.

Personally, I would choose the second option as we are in desperate need of a good midfielder, at the Strootman/Witsel level, and I rather have a young wide attacker than spending the entire cash on an almost 29 years old Ronnie, whose childhood dream was to play for Real Madrid in his absolute prime.
 
Bale plus Strootman would seem to be quite a deal. That said, Bale would probably cost similar money to Ronaldo so its unlikely we would splash another 20m on a midfielder.
 
Raoul said:
BTW this is brilliant muppetry FG.
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:):p

I am getting an early fix, Raoul. I have plans, and won't be here much during the muppet months otherwise I'd have given the biggest transfer muppets a run for their money the coming summer.

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Bale plus Strootman would seem to be quite a deal. That said, Bale would probably cost similar money to Ronaldo so its unlikely we would splash another 20m on a midfielder.
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I don't think Bale should cost more than £40m at the most. He is still not the complete package yet or has done it consistently for a few seasons. I think he'll go for £35-£40m + may be some add ons.

I have read that Gotze has a release clause of 40m Euros in his contract.

Stootman's quotes prices have all been under 20m Euros.

I know they are lot of paper-price nonsense but what would A class muppetry be without it. :)
 
2nd option obviously

Bayern are favourites this year and are a complete team without having a messi or ronaldo type megastar
 
Agree with that Freak. Certainly it would lessen the need for the ideal midfielder that people seem to be obsessed with. The likes of Carrick, Clev, Ando, and an emerging Powell are obviously up for the task. What we need is to reclaim our wings with Nani and Ronaldo. It would create all sorts of space for Kagawa and Rooney to work with.
 
I'd probably go with Ronaldo. Puts that fear factor right into other teams. Could see balancing the team being difficult if we intend to play him how he currently is at Madrid.

We would likely see better team performances overall if we went with the second options, but teams wouldn't fear us as much.
 
Raoul said:
Agree with that Freak. Certainly it would lessen the need for the ideal midfielder that people seem to be obsessed with. The likes of Carrick, Clev, Ando, and an emerging Powell are obviously up for the task. What we need is to reclaim our wings with Nani and Ronaldo. It would create all sorts of space for Kagawa and Rooney to work with.
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Nothing will lessen the need for an ideal midfielder. Ando is out of favor and Powell is not emerging just of yet, not for a couple of years . I don't disagree that we need to reclaim the wings, they have been god awful this season, but we need a midfielder for better team solidity, fluidity and coherence. At times the team has looked disjointed and lacking in ideas when others teams have pressed and gained midfield dominance. A good midfield will help and improve the defense too.

With Ronaldo we'll get an additional goal threat but it will be a challenge to fit too many alpha dogs in a team. A younger player in Bale or Gotze will be more accommodating, while at the same improving our threat from the wide areas. Plus, they would secure our long term future.
 
Forevergiggs said:
Nothing will lessen the need for an ideal midfielder. Ando is out of favor and Powell is not emerging just of yet, not for a couple of years . I don't disagree that we need to reclaim the wings, they have been god awful this season, but we need a midfielder for better team solidity, fluidity and coherence. At times the team has looked disjointed and lacking in ideas when others teams have pressed and gained midfield dominance. A good midfield will help and improve the defense too.

With Ronaldo we'll get an additional goal threat but it will be a challenge to fit too many alpha dogs in a team. A younger player in Bale or Gotze will be more accommodating, while at the same improving our threat from the wide areas. Plus, they would secure our long term future.
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Nah I don't buy that. Fergie has had a chance to buy known midfielders the past few years and hasn't done it. Scholes returning may have helped him delay things, but even so, the fact that he was previously relying on Pogba and is now developing Powell suggests that he isn't particularly interested. Carrick and Cleverly seem to be doing ok and with Powell probably ready to jump in more and more in the next year, there isn't an emergency to buy someone. If Fergie does buy, it will be because he genuinely believes he can take an emerging player like Strootman to the next level, which he can.
 
Hmmmm...tough one.

Can't we sell Valencia, Young, Anderson, Bebe, Macheda etc. and just buy all 3? :(

I'd take Ronnie back, but this is a decision based on the heart because my head is telling me that the better (future) deal is Bale + Strootman/whoever!
 
Option 2 for me...Moutinho/Modric and Gotze would be my punt. We should be looking forwards not backwards. Ronaldo would cost a fecking fortune and to be honest I would rather money be spent on an emerging talent...of which Gotze is one of the best. I rate Bale very highly but Gotze will be truly special, he is going to be a phenomenal player. Moutinho offers an alternative to Carrick whilst also being able to partner him.
 
Ronaldo, once in a generation player and legend at this club returning to his spiritual home. We can buy midfielders any other season and have got on fine with the ones we have. You can't buy a Ronaldo any season you like.
 
Raoul said:
Nah I don't buy that. Fergie has had a chance to buy known midfielders the past few years and hasn't done it. Scholes returning may have helped him delay things, but even so, the fact that he was previously relying on Pogba and is now developing Powell suggests that he isn't particularly interested. Carrick and Cleverly seem to be doing ok and with Powell probably ready to jump in more and more in the next year, there isn't an emergency to buy someone. If Fergie does buy, it will be because he genuinely believes he can take an emerging player like Strootman to the next level, which he can.
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I don't know how much of that is due to arrogance.

He better be interested as Scholes most likely will retire and Fletch is a big question mark. He clearly doesn't trust Ando (played in the U21's last night) enough to bring him in a game when Cleverley was clearly shot after 25 minutes. I have seen Powell in the reserves and he is nowhere ready to start first team games yet. I can see him going out on a lower PL/ Championship loan next season. Carrick and Cleverley are doing okay but a club of stature should aim higher than just okay. Also, we need more depth. If we don't, we can be a Carrick injury away from blowing an entire season.

IMO, there should be an emergency to sign a midfielder, if it is not.

Also, I am not ready to give up on Valencia or Young/Nani yet. I don't buy the, "he has been figured out" theory on Valencia. He is having a bad season and I am hopeful that he'll recover. Neither do I agree with sell everyone and buy Ronaldo camp. We need 4 wingers for depth. Valencia, Young/Nani, Zaha, Gotze/Bale/Other will do nicely for me.
 
Wilshere and Bale.......*jizzes his pants*
 
Forevergiggs said:
He clearly doesn't trust Ando (played in the U21's last night) enough to bring him in a game when Cleverley was clearly shot after 25 minutes.
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Seen this written loads on here lately but couldn't disagree more, it has nothing to do with "trust". SAF brought Ando on in the Bernabau after all ahead of Clev. SAF obviously had his reasons for not replacing Cleverley but I seriously doubt "trust" is one of them. Personally I'd have have preferred him to have kept Kagawa on in a withdrawn role as he still looked full of running.
 
MUFCgal said:
As much as I love Ronnie, I'd take option 2.

A good CM such as Moutinho or Strootman along with Bale would be excellent for us.
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Strootman + Bale wouldn't improve us to the degree of Ronaldo. So many on here are just too obsessed with our midfield, it's clouding their judgement.
 
I'm always right said:
Strootman + Bale wouldn't improve us to the degree of Ronaldo. So many on here are just too obsessed with our midfield, it's clouding their judgement.
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But you can also say many on here are obsessed over having Ronaldo back. As much as we love him, and what he done for us, perhaps that ship has sailed? We've proven we can compete and be successful without him. Addressing other areas, such as the centre midfield is more important IMO.
 
MUFCgal said:
But you can also say many on here are obsessed over having Ronaldo back.
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He's one of the best players to ever play the game, he pretty mich guarantees you a goal per game. It's not out of love that people would like to see him back here.

Would people take Strootman & Bale over Messi too?
 
Ronaldo would guarantee more short term success, probably a few more PL medals and a CL too. Bale and Strootman would be better in the long term. I guess it'd depend on how selfish SAF wanted to be.
 
Bale and midfielder, we need to strengthen the midfield especially with Scholes and Fletcher not featuring much if at all. I wouldn't want us to be purely relying on Ronaldo to win us games, and what happens if he gets injured for a month or so.
Buying Bale would be a bonus as we don't need him.
 
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