Tbf it’s difficult for me to take your opinion seriously when you’re calling it a par 200.
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220 minimum.
The problem is, India are rewarding the wrong sort of attitude from the batsman they're developing in the IPL as well. The Indian players coming through in the IPL (with some exceptions), play selfishly for their averages. As that's what gets them selected for the national team.
This is fantastic to watch from England. Beautiful shots. Cruising to this. This score was always a low total despite what some on here tried to say.
The whole selection thing for India has always been bizarre.
There was this incident where he declared before Sachin could get a 200 at SCG. Plus that Chappel Ganguly stuff happened in his captaincy stint. We also won a test series in England under him. My guess is that he is just a traditionalist. He will back senior players rather than overhaul things. Wrong choice at this moment in our history. We are brimming with exciting young talent and need to clear out the current limited overs' squad of oldies.
Arshdeep Singh looks like a good bowler for India, they need to give some new bowlers opportunities.
That sound of bat against ball when its hit for a six is beautiful.
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I'm not the only one who saw this coming, though.
This has been brilliant from Buttler and Hales.
I think we are over-rated like England in football often, because we have the money
The IPL doesn't have as many international class players as people in this thread think. Ishan was tried and failed. Many of the same guys - like KL - are IPL stars.
We can select better players, but it's not like we have a reserve of world beaters. They would do OK only.
17 off the over when England only need six of an over now. They want this done ASAP.
Everyone say the same after England win in 15/16 overs so get ready for it. Not sure why you think it is controversial, even likes of Moody, Fleming said on cricinfo that 180+ was the minimum score required here.
Hales running out of runs to get his 100 here
OK for the opening partnership would be better than what happened today
230 was a par score IMO.
My unpopular opinion for this thread is that selecting Kohli didn't help us as many seem to think. I think Surya at 3 was our best option. In all his innings, he's 30 off 27 or so, and that dictates how the rest of the team plays. Simply getting Surya at 3 gets you a different game trajectory. Both Kohli and Rahul do lots of self-rescue acts near the end of their own innings which covers their bad performance.
Literally 5 of the pundits on commentary have mentioned india got a par score on this ground. They’ve played top level international cricket. Yet I should listen to a guy on redcafe who says par is 200.
The par is clearly not enough because of factors such as the opponent they are playing are the best in the world and the bowling performance from India has been abysmal. It doesn’t change the fact it was a par score regardless of whether it was enough.
These pitches have changed dramatically from match to match, prior to this they have been very slow hence the not so big totals.
Having seen both teams bat, I think par is 430 on this pitch.
Kinda agree. I'd have opened with Kohli even.
Simply terrific from England - they're going to win the cup
To be fair Kohli has been in great form before this so you wouldn't have changed the order. Yadav has also been but can't see Kohli giving that spot up. The issue seems to be the lack of intent from the openers which leaves the middle order to much to do.
Dropped catch goes for four
I think thats the difference.
They actually said par score on this ground but not a winning total for today. Not just due to opponents in hindsight but based on conditions. They are well short of a target for having any chance to win.
I think thats the difference.
Oh my god stop it. Just stop it
stop it. Just stop itFirst chance India gets and they drop it for 4, sums this game up
Drop and a 4
Is that the par or average score?
You just knew that was dropped. As soon as it left the bat.
Buttler and Hales just toying with them now.
This is brutal
Average score. Looking at the conditions 14,350 would be a good score.
To be fair it was a difficult catch going backwards but sums the game up for India.
Been told it will be a repeat of 91 for a number of different reasons.
Today's been a bad day for India, nothing went right.
India have been poor. With their PP and then their start with their bowling.
But this is such a fantastic performance by England with the bat. These two attacked the PP, and then just kept things going.
But this is such a fantastic performance by England with the bat. These two attacked the PP, and then just kept things going.
Rarely do you get big partnerships such as this in T20 games. I was worried about the batting after SL and said players needed to stand up and these two have done that without doubt.
Seriously, not even mankading's saving India. Brutal stuff.
Don't agree. In 2019 WC, our team along with Eng was the best on paper. Likes of Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Bumrah, Shami at their peak. That semi final defeat against NZ was a huge missed opportunity. 2016 T20 WC at home, we messed up due to a bad opening pair. We make small mistakes in these tournaments though last two T20 WCs have been selection failures.
Currently we have talents like Surya, Hardik, Bumrah, Jadeja, Pant. That is a very strong core already. We just fail to plan properly with tough decisions.
Maybe indian fans knew a thing or two about their side.
England have been brilliant.
England have been brilliant.