ICC T20 World Cup 2022

They held onto a catch against India :eek:

Need to get SKY early.
 
Never underestimate how shit India's batsmen can be on the big stage.
 
India are a shambles.

Can anyone explain to me why KL Rahul and Rohit Sharma is their opening partnership? Surely there must be two guys better suited to T20 from the IPL?
 
I don’t get that run out decision. Looked clear as day that the gloves broke the wicket, on two of the angles you can see parts of the glove have actually gone through the gaps in the stump before they were broken. How he can say the ball broke them is beyond me.
 
slyadams said:
I don’t get that run out decision. Looked clear as day that the gloves broke the wicket, on two of the angles you can see parts of the glove have actually gone through the gaps in the stump before they were broken. How he can say the ball broke them is beyond me.
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For me what breaks it was entirely inconclusive, and given Axar was still absolutely miles away from the crease he had to be out. If he were a millimetre or two from the crease you can understand giving him the benefit of the doubt, but he wasn’t.
 
phelans shorts said:
For me what breaks it was entirely inconclusive, and given Axar was still absolutely miles away from the crease he had to be out. If he were a millimetre or two from the crease you can understand giving him the benefit of the doubt, but he wasn’t.
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That doesn’t matter though, if the ball doesn’t break the stumps it’s not out. You can’t smash the stumps with your gloves and say “well he’s a foot out so he’s gone”.
 
slyadams said:
That doesn’t matter though, if the ball doesn’t break the stumps it’s not out. You can’t smash the stumps with your gloves and say “well he’s a foot out so he’s gone”.
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But he didn’t smash the stumps with his gloves, so what a daft point. The break was inconclusive (the bails didn’t light up until after the ball hit, blatantly) so benefit of the doubt was given to one side as it had to be. It was quite clearly given to the side that it should have been, too.
 
phelans shorts said:
But he didn’t smash the stumps with his gloves, so what a daft point. The break was inconclusive (the bails didn’t light up until after the ball hit, blatantly) so benefit of the doubt was given to one side as it had to be. It was quite clearly given to the side that it should have been, too.
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It’s literally not a daft point, the ball came loose and the gloves smashed through the stumps. You also don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt if you completely mess up your skill, that’s not how sport works.

In football if you handle it on the line you don’t get a penalty goal because you deserve the benefit of the doubt. In cricket you have to prove something is out unless the soft signal is out, and that replay clearly didn’t.
 
slyadams said:
It’s literally not a daft point, the ball came loose and the gloves smashed through the stumps. You also don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt if you completely mess up your skill, that’s not how sport works.

In football if you handle it on the line you don’t get a penalty goal because you deserve the benefit of the doubt. In cricket you have to prove something is out unless the soft signal is out, and that replay clearly didn’t.
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It literally is a daft point. The gloves didn’t smash through at all, the bails didn’t light up until after the ball whacked the middle stump!
 
phelans shorts said:
It literally is a daft point. The gloves didn’t smash through at all, the bails didn’t light up until after the ball whacked the middle stump!
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You said yourself: what broke the stumps was inconclusive. There are no rules to say the fielding team gets the benefit of the doubt in such situations, you have to prove ok the replay it’s out. Your point isn’t daft, it’s asinine, you want to umpire via who deserves something, that’s not how sport works pal.
 
Big over for India. Nawaz has 1 over to go, that could be a problem for Pakistan.
 
slyadams said:
You said yourself: what broke the stumps was inconclusive. There are no rules to say the fielding team gets the benefit of the doubt in such situations, you have to prove ok the replay it’s out. Your point isn’t daft, it’s asinine, you want to umpire via who deserves something, that’s not how sport works pal.
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So why should India get the benefit of the doubt when they can’t prove that he smashed it with his glove? On the replays the bails clearly only light up when the ball hits (a point you keep ignoring because it doesn’t suit the narrative) so the ball was likely what broke the wicket.

You want to umpire on what suits India, which isn’t how sport works, buddy.
 
phelans shorts said:
So why should India get the benefit of the doubt when they can’t prove that he smashed it with his glove? On the replays the bails clearly only light up when the ball hits (a point you keep ignoring because it doesn’t suit the narrative) so the ball was likely what broke the wicket.

You want to umpire on what suits India, which isn’t how sport works, buddy.
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Because rules. I'm sorry if you don't like it but in cricket you have to demonstrate someone is out, not the other way around. I'm sorry if you don't like it. Also:



You can not only see the bails lit up before the ball has hit, but you can also see, around the writing half way up the stump, part of this gloves have actually gone through the stumps, so its a stretch to say he didn't break the wicket with them.

However, all of this is moot, I think most people watching this would say "hmmm, not sure", at which point the laws of the game says "not out". Not "well, he was well out the ground so let's give the keeper the benefit of the doubt". I would argue actually the opposite: the keeper completely lost control of the ball, he doesn't deserve to get the run out and his reaction live demonstrates he didn't even think it was out.

This is all rather silly now, you've said yourself its inconclusive but you want to change the rules because the batsman was well short.

Btw, I'm not Indian, I support England, I hope India lose today and get knocked out.
 
India will win it from here. Pakistan were playing brainless shots in this period of the innings. Kohli knows how to play this situation.
 
Kohli’s showing his class with this knock.
 
jeez - he's playing like the man of 5 years ago.
 
Big over that. With Nawaz still needing to bowl one, India should get the runs.
 
I reckon Pakistan have got this. Great over this.

Edit - next ball 6
 
Brilliant shots. That’s the game imo.
 
Surely you can’t run if the ball hits the wicket? Free hit or not.
 
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