ICC Cricket World Cup 2023

The semi final is at this ground - it's the flattest in India

And will likely be against Australia

1 out of 3 will happen, 2 out of 3 can definitely happen

But yea, whomever the batter is, they'll have to get past this bowling and that's not going to be easy
The problem could be even chasing a petty target like 250. I know some Indian fans may be too pessimistic but our batters are capable of giving a scare.
 
The problem could be even chasing a petty target like 250. I know some Indian fans may be too pessimistic but our batters are capable of giving a scare.

I think conceding 300+ is the one way we lose

Our top 5 has a lot of quality batters(and Shreyas Iyer). I'd fancy an Indian win if we're chasing anything below 270. Same if we bat first and put up a par score
 
Rohit is a brilliant captain. Just like Dhoni was the big reason we won 2011.. if we win, Rohit would be the reason.

Half this team would've been dropped 5 times over the last 2 years if it was Virat's captaincy.
 
Two of the four biggest winning margins in ODI's are now from India beating Sri Lanka.

They look so strong, an India v South Africa final would be great but I can't see anyone other than the hosts winning this, they've got everything locked down and fantastic support.
This India team specifically looks strong every world cup. Only to lose in the semi finals, let's see if they can get over that curse.
2015/2019 World cups come to mind. As does last years t20.
 
This India team specifically looks strong every world cup. Only to lose in the semi finals, let's see if they can get over that curse.
2015/2019 World cups come to mind. As does last years t20.
Last year t20 is a bad example..india were hardly great let alone strong. Needed Kohli's brilliance against Pak, a match we would have lost any other day.

2015 amd 2019 wc I give you. Although the host nation are always favs so Australia and England were favorites.
 
I think it's both true that India were terrific in the groups in 2015 and 2019, and there were better teams than us at those world cups. Aus were easily favourites going into semis and hammered us.

India are the best team here and SA alongside them, but there are none better
 
As an Indian fan, I do agree that us not winning would be disappointing

I'm not doing the troll you HAVE to win it thing. It's a World cup, one bad day could kill you - but huge Favs now. Every team will be intimidated playing India at home - ignore how good you are, that's hard enough, but you can add in it's pretty much 100% home support to.
 
I'm not doing the troll you HAVE to win it thing. It's a World cup, one bad day could kill you - but huge Favs now. Every team will be intimidated playing India at home - ignore how good you are, that's hard enough, but you can add in it's pretty much 100% home support to.
That is the worry most Indian fans have. You don't even need to have a bad day, just a bad hour and you could be done. The NZ semis still hurts. We played some breathtaking cricket in that world cup but bottled on that day.

2015, we were convincingly beaten by a stronger side.

Anything can happen on that particular day. Just that this time we look even better than previous two wcs so we need to really stink the place out to have a horrid day.
 
Last year t20 is a bad example..india were hardly great let alone strong. Needed Kohli's brilliance against Pak, a match we would have lost any other day.

2015 amd 2019 wc I give you. Although the host nation are always favs so Australia and England were favorites.
I remember although I may be incorrect but you being the best team in the group stages of those world cups.
India is by far the strongest team this world cup and performances have shown that and I would definitely be surprised if you don't go on and win it especially with home advantage. It's just history has shown this India team is prone to collapses so I don't think India winning this tournament is a foregone conclusion. Although I do concede that if I had to bet my house on a team winning it, it would definitely be India.
 
Last year t20 is a bad example..india were hardly great let alone strong. Needed Kohli's brilliance against Pak, a match we would have lost any other day.

2015 amd 2019 wc I give you. Although the host nation are always favs so Australia and England were favorites.
why do people keep bringing up 2019, its like people remember us getting to semis easily and nothing else, we were not great a team in 2019, the bowling attack was for most part hot and cold outside of bumrah, the batting was a basically just the top 3 in crazy form, once dhawan got injured it was one of rohit, kohli always carrying us through and once both failed we lost the game, we even lost when both performed vs england.
 
why do people keep bringing up 2019, its like people remember us getting to semis easily and nothing else, we were not great a team in 2019, the bowling attack was for most part hot and cold outside of bumrah, the batting was a basically just the top 3 in crazy form, once dhawan got injured it was one of rohit, kohli always carrying us through and once both failed we lost the game, we even lost when both performed vs england.
Because you had the best record in the group stage so therefore it's easy to say that you were the best team in the group stage. You obviously weren't blowing teams away like you are this world cup but you were still statistically the best team in the group stage having only lost 1 game (To England).
 
It’s those damn pitches

Yes those damn pitches supporting pacers, spinners, hard hitters and accumulators.

You can win batting first, or batting second.

All to ensure India wins. Why are the conditions so unfair??
 
Yes those damn pitches supporting pacers, spinners, hard hitters and accumulators.

You can win batting first, or batting second.

All to ensure India wins. Why are the conditions so unfair??
Are there many people saying that now. All I can see is people saying India are the best team and coasting it at the moment.
 
Are there many people saying that now. All I can see is people saying India are the best team and coasting it at the moment.

If someone came in here and said "Jos Buttler is a crap T20 batsman", naturally there will be others who (rightfully) disagree with it. Will you wait for a critical mass of people saying it before disagreeing with them? No one's wound up about this btw - it's one person's opinion and some of us have a different opinion.

India have taken 65 wickets of which 70% are from seamers. Australian have taken more wickets from spin(42%). It's a strange time to be talking about pitches. It'd be like me attributing the English 2019 win to the clouds allowing a bit of movement, when in fact it was due to a dodgy rule.
 
If someone came in here and said "Jos Buttler is a crap T20 batsman", naturally there will be others who (rightfully) disagree with it. Will you wait for a critical mass of people saying it before disagreeing with them? No one's wound up about this btw - it's one person's opinion and some of us have a different opinion.

India have taken 65 wickets of which 70% are from seamers. Australian have taken more wickets from spin(42%) It's a strange time to be talking about pitches. It'd be like me attributing the English 2019 win to the clouds allowing a bit of movement, when in fact it was due to a dodgy rule.

I did not see this ending coming :lol:
 
Annoying that Afghanistan lost to Bangladesh earlier in the tournament. Would have really ramped up pressure on NZ and Australia.
 
I did not see this ending coming :lol:

Did you miss the pitchforks when Samid correctly mentioned that England actually only won the 2019 finals on a technicality.

The reality is that India offers the best ODI pitches by some margin where almost any style of play can win and every player has a chance.

Test pitches are a different matter with India favoring spinners and England favoring dibbly dobbly seamers in early season. It might be accurate to say that the late season England test pitches are probably the most fair ones.
 
I've seen this posted twice now and maybe it's me being English but whats supposed to be funny about it?
I don't think it's anything funny per se. I think it's a bit dumb - why ask Marnus what he thinks about Bazball? It's just idiotic sports presenting / press in my opinion.
 
Can Afghanistan make it to the semis? At who's expense?
Very unlikely at this point with their poor NRR. Only way they can at New Zealands expense is if:
Pak defeats NZ.
Pak and NZ lose their last games.
Afghanistan wins either against Australia or SA
 
Did you miss the pitchforks when Samid correctly mentioned that England actually only won the 2019 finals on a technicality.

The reality is that India offers the best ODI pitches by some margin where almost any style of play can win and every player has a chance.

Test pitches are a different matter with India favoring spinners and England favoring dibbly dobbly seamers in early season. It might be accurate to say that the late season England test pitches are probably the most fair ones.

Damn you really have issues with moving on from things. It wasn’t a technicality, it was the rule just like every other rule there is. The boundary count rule had been in place since the moment the superover was introduced which was over a decade back. In 1999 Aus went through to the final after a tie against South Africa because they had beaten them in the super six comp which was again the rule.
 
Hardik ruled out of world cup. Prasidh called in as replacement - an interesting choice.
 
Don’t think he’s getting a game ahead of the 3 main pacers. Would India rest one of the pacers against Netherlands?

I think India will do a bunch of changes - there are only 2 days between the Netherlands game and the first semi
 
Hardik ruled out of world cup. Prasidh called in as replacement - an interesting choice.

They are committed to going with 3 frontline seamers now and Prasidh basically covers any injury to the trio playing now. They don't trust Shardul as the third seamer so doubt he sees any game time in this WC anymore.

But I would have gone with Axar since in case there is an injury to Jadeja then he provides the best cover. Hardik is a huge loss though. No 6th bowling option & a lot of pressure on SKY now to play the role Hardik played in batting order.
 
They are committed to going with 3 frontline seamers now and Prasidh basically covers any injury to the trio playing now. They don't trust Shardul as the third seamer so doubt he sees any game time in this WC anymore.

But I would have gone with Axar since in case there is an injury to Jadeja then he provides the best cover. Hardik is a huge loss though. No 6th bowling option & a lot of pressure on SKY now to play the role Hardik played in batting order.

Agree with your interpretation. Yea, it's a big problem if Jadeja has a niggle. They probably thought p(one player getting injured)<p(one of three players getting injured) and went for the fast bowler cover. Tells you the lack of faith in Shardul.

Surya looks so jittery honestly -- if he was fluent, he'd actually be an upgrade over Pandya at 6.
 
Agree with your interpretation. Yea, it's a big problem if Jadeja has a niggle. They probably thought p(one player getting injured)<p(one of three players getting injured) and went for the fast bowler cover. Tells you the lack of faith in Shardul.

Surya looks so jittery honestly -- if he was fluent, he'd actually be an upgrade over Pandya at 6.

Agree. I don't like Hardik but he and Jadeja provided perfect balance to the team. True all rounders are a rare breed, especially in India.
 
Agree. I don't like Hardik but he and Jadeja provided perfect balance to the team. True all rounders are a rare breed, especially in India.

You don't like Hardik? He is easily the best all rounder in the world!
 
Agree with your interpretation. Yea, it's a big problem if Jadeja has a niggle. They probably thought p(one player getting injured)<p(one of three players getting injured) and went for the fast bowler cover. Tells you the lack of faith in Shardul.

Surya looks so jittery honestly -- if he was fluent, he'd actually be an upgrade over Pandya at 6.

I think no.6 spot in ODIs suit SKY. Our semi will be in Wankhade. I know he flopped their last match but otherwise he knows that ground inside out.
 
I think no.6 spot in ODIs suit SKY. Our semi will be in Wankhade. I know he flopped their last match but otherwise he knows that ground inside out.
Yea - for sure but it’s clearly mental isn’t it? That 40 he made, it was a very average innings. Last game he came in 40th over which is tailor made for him but even then he seemed confused. Legit GOAT t20 contender, and for some reason if he looks up and sees 50 overs on the board, it gets into his head. Good point on Wankhede. There is a legitimate scenario if things go well where Hardik’s absence has improved the team but anything can happen.
 
Crazy to think Ravindra wouldn’t be batting in the top order if Kane was fit at the start of the tournament.
 
Ravindra is gonna justify being named after Dravid and Sachin. Such an incredible player. Shubman Gill is the other great 20 something we’ve seen in last few years but Ravindra has a maturity to his game that is way beyond his age.