He looked good in the series against us a few weeks ago.
Very impressive today.
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He looked good in the series against us a few weeks ago.
Very impressive today.
This is a slow death now - well slowish. Time to give up, see you all for the debrief.
Poor performance from England, some horrible shot selection earlier and only a good Buttler / Root partnership got us anywhere near respectable.
Good that they've got it out of the way now, the only way is up!
Good that they've got it out of the way now, the only way is up!
England taking a proper beating here.
This is a proper dressing down by New Zealand.
Suddenly glad I've been in meetings all days so not been able to watch.
Oh dear, a battering (no pun intended).
Didn't someone earlier in the thread say NZ wouldn't keep this run rate up for the whole inning's? 
Didn't someone earlier in the thread say NZ wouldn't keep this run rate up for the whole inning's?
Not if you read my post properly no
Very rare this happens - fair play to them.
Very reminiscent of what England have done to other teams over the last 5 years.
This will hurt Englands confidence now, luckily loads of time to recover and alot of experience.
Absolutely creamed. Oh well - it's a long old group stage!
Not sure that could have gone much worse.
Ages to go though yet so it should still be ok.
Ages to go though yet so it should still be ok.
Only jesting mate,Not if you read my post properly no
Very rare this happens - fair play to them.
Very reminiscent of what England have done to other teams over the last 5 years.
This will hurt Englands confidence now, luckily loads of time to recover and alot of experience.
England will be fine, the way the tournament is set out means there will be a few other matches like this one between the 'big' teams.
As for net run rate, England will make that back against the smaller nations for sure.
You can't play against the country you are loaned from.
My biggest worry after today is if Butler captains through most of the tournament - he's a poor captain and has no vibe at all.
But today is all about that batting partnership to be fair - you often see a quick 100 partnership to take the game away but to keep it going like that and both be there at the end - very impressive.
But today is all about that batting partnership to be fair - you often see a quick 100 partnership to take the game away but to keep it going like that and both be there at the end - very impressive.
That's a blow for Conway v SA
As if Conway didn't get MOTM
That went well
Early days. Australia won the 2021 after being thrashed by England in the group stage.
But still, worrying times. Our bowling attack looks really weak without Archer.
And jury's very much still out on Mott for me, certainly in 50-over cricket.
But still, worrying times. Our bowling attack looks really weak without Archer.
And jury's very much still out on Mott for me, certainly in 50-over cricket.
Yeah.
Feel like our preparation has been shambolic tbh, with the whole debate around Roy/Brook/Malan.
Not helped by the fact that our big guns have played little or no 50-over cricket since 2019 though!
The batting just wasn’t good enough. Of course the bowling was pathetic but on these pitches if you don’t score 350 after playing an extra batter then you will get fecked
Root claiming we wanted to start slow to peak at the right time - quality.
Anyone surprised by Devon Conway shouldn't be, he's an absolute terminator in the subcontinent, had a great IPL. Ravindra the next NZ star by the looks of it.
Everything that went wrong could go wrong. Look at Brook's dismissal ffs
I'm not even sure 350 would have been rough with the way NZ were going.
Weird thing to say I know but Nz are a good team but will be overhyped after this result.
Well that is correct but it just gives a bit more risk on the shots . If you are 70/1 after 8 chasing 280 the game is done while with 350 you are only slightly ahead
Yeah they've rightly earned a reputation that you should never under-estimate them over the years, but I don't fancy them this time to make the semi's despite today.
I do have some concerns about England, will be a scrap to make the semi's.
The batting was likely just one of those days, they all got in and if just one goes on to make a big score then you end up with a solid total.
Bowling was more of a worry, hopefully they improve with a few overs in them. Given the seamers are likely to be rotated I would have gone with Topley for this one as his record against left-handers is quite strong and NZ have 6 in this line-up.
Bowling was more of a worry, hopefully they improve with a few overs in them. Given the seamers are likely to be rotated I would have gone with Topley for this one as his record against left-handers is quite strong and NZ have 6 in this line-up.
Not weird at all, we are an ok team right now but nowhere near where we have been and I think you are right
Funnily enough in my predictions on Twitter I actually had NZ qualifying and England going out but still think that they are a level below India & Australia. Selection today partly down to injuries was very weird
well - they'll have 2-3 first teamers back. Their bowlers picked were average ones. Southee and Lockie are on the bench..
Batting looks very good
India Eng NZ SA are my picks for semis
Think England might suffer a 'Spain 2014' moment. One tournament too many for a great team.
I've been cautiously optimistic leading in we'd have enough to make the Semis without being particularly good and then anything can happen.
But all those troubling concerns about aging players and an undercooked team came to the fore today. I think we could flop it.
between Aus & Eng in my opinion. & SA is very uneven over last two years. dont know which side will show up.
I think we'll either win it or bomb. In other words, the plan works or it fails spectacularly.
Shubman Gill has tested positive for Dengue..
People take months to recover from it
People take months to recover from it
Unless it's the severe case of Dengue he should be fine way sooner might miss a game or 2 at worst .