ICC Cricket World Cup 2023

South Africa B team teaching South Africa a lesson here.
 
Ngidi almost found a way to take that on his jaw, pretty scary.
 
:lol: You know things are rough when you require 4 runs per ball for 3 overs and your 10th man has 3 runs off 19 balls.
 
Teams trying to bat out their overs for NRR is sensible but fecking boring.
 
Fair fecks Holland.

Saffers aren't a serious team. Second tournament in a row they're getting embarrassed by a team that features half of their own rejects. Any decent team with some self-respect would after the first time have ensured it never happened again.
 
Maharaj has actually done a brilliant job since the game became an exercise in not tanking the NRR too much, to be fair to him.

Some kind of bonus point system should probably be brought in though, as it's not exactly edge of the seat stuff to watch.
 
210 would be nice. Pitch seems flat but Saffers will have the T20 WC choke from last year burnt in their memory. They’ve only batted first so far so could be different pressure under lights.
Well done Sir.
 
Maharaj has actually done a brilliant job since the game became an exercise in not tanking the NRR too much, to be fair to him.

Some kind of bonus point system should probably be brought in though, as it's not exactly edge of the seat stuff to watch.

Yep the way this is lining up NRR is going to decide a place or two
 
So, which is more embarrassing. England or South Africa?
England. They knew Afghans don't like to chase and their strength is their bowling.

It was ridiculously stupid to ask them to bat first and I knew England would struggle to chase anything above 250 under these conditions with how the Afghans bowl. All that when they lost a game already in the tournament.
 
Yeah, should have said which was the bigger shock. My bad.

To be fair to England, Afghanistan might have the best spin attack in the tournament, only rivaled by India. While the commentators were hyping up the Netherlands bowling, I definitely do not view them in the same category as Afghanistan. Not to mention that Dharmshala is the closest to SA conditions you can get in India means that I think the SA loss was more of a shock.
 
So, which is more embarrassing. England or South Africa?

Saffers for sure. Afghans are decent in Asian conditions and their spinners are world class. They should've beaten both India and Pakistan at the previous WC but the lack of experience got the better of them.

Netherlands, there are about 1k cricketers there. Many of them with roots in South Africa and Asia. Several of the players in their squad are South African rejects. The average joe in the streets won't know they're at the world cup or what cricket even is.
 
South Africa are top contenders now that they've got the traditional WC Choke out of the way quite early.
 
:lol: challenge accepted! The choke is still coming bud!

Can't play Jansen at 7 even though he tonks the ball. Play Markram as a proper fifth bowler or else play Andile(who's garbage anyway)
 
Can't play Jansen at 7 even though he tonks the ball. Play Markram as a proper fifth bowler or else play Andile(who's garbage anyway)
Start by dropping Bavuma first, please (not going to happen) :lol:

But yeah, batting lineup seems too "thin" and not sure why they brought in Coetzee for Shamsi on these wickets (albeit yesterday's wicket was supposedly flat/good for batting?). Oh well.
 
NZ is trouble. 4 wickets down (3 in two overs). Are we to see another upset?
 
Looks like the lesser nations are producing good bowling attacks. Bodes well for the future and it's a good sign too given this is a more generous bowling era than a decade ago so they're keeping up with the bigger nations.
 
Looks like the lesser nations are producing good bowling attacks. Bodes well for the future and it's a good sign too given this is a more generous bowling era than a decade ago so they're keeping up with the bigger nations.
Imagine near the end of the group stages when the pitches will be slower and will assist the spinners more. I imagine the Afghanistan bowling attack will be unplayable at that point.

Can we call it unfair for the teams that are playing them later as opposed to earlier?
 
Very odd decision to field first. Afghans have for years been batting first even when it made zero sense stats wise. For once they win a WC game batting first and what do they do three days later? Decide to chase...
 
Very odd decision to field first. Afghans have for years been batting first even when it made zero sense stats wise. For once they win a WC game batting first and what do they do three days later? Decide to chase...
Yes very weird strategy. Even if they had scored 230 , they could have given a proper shot at defending that. Now there is no way they chase anything beyond 200 let alone 280
 
Looks like game over. NZ really look like the real deal.

They've been a solid tournament side for years - do the basics right. Generally don't have the firepower to get over the line and win it - maybe this year....(not for me).

Also had a great fixture list but you can only beat whats infront of you and they have - comfortably.
 
Looks like game over. NZ really look like the real deal.
I agree they have been good but too soon to say about being the real deal or not. Remember you don't want to be peaking early in such tournaments. You could have teams like Aus or eng or even Pak who could peak later and strike gold in KOs.
 
They've been a solid tournament side for years - do the basics right. Generally don't have the firepower to get over the line and win it - maybe this year....(not for me).

Also had a great fixture list but you can only beat whats infront of you and they have - comfortably.

They've dealt with potential banana skins and you're so called stronger teams don't look very strong at the moment. I agree though, can't see them winning but you never know.

I agree they have been good but too soon to say about being the real deal or not. Remember you don't want to be peaking early in such tournaments. You could have teams like Aus or eng or even Pak who could peak later and strike gold in KOs.

I don't know. I can only really remember England in recent years winning a tournament without having dominated the group stages. Australia 2003, 2007, India 2011 and Australia 2015 looked great throughout.
 
I don't know. I can only really remember England in recent years winning a tournament without having dominated the group stages. Australia 2003, 2007, India 2011 and Australia 2015 looked great throughout.

T20WC 22, 21, WC19, CT17 all won by teams who easily could've been eliminated in the groups. Those are all the tournaments in the last 5-6 years I think.