Ibrahimovic....Toss
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For the record, I agree with the "better version of Berbatov" statement.
There is not that much between them, but I reckon Zlatan is the better player.
There is not that much between them, but I reckon Zlatan is the better player.
I actually wrote that originally but took it out.
I'm willing to face the consequence of my words
Had the look of a man that realised he's not a patch on Ronaldo last night.
I'm willing to face the consequence of my words
No I agree with the statement but didn`t write it.
Na, had a look of a man that knew he personally could do no more. One great player doesnt make a great team.
Quick question regarding inter, who is the 2nd top scorer in the team?
Maicon...... What sort of great team has a right back as the 2nd top scorer. They need more, they need creative midfielders and they need support. They need Toni Cassano.
A tuned-in Italian football commentator here in Canada had it right when he evaluated this tie three weeks ago. He felt that United had the upper hand on Inter because they could score goals whereas Inter heavily relied on Ibra to create the chances to score goals. Ibra may be a very gifted player but needs to be in a different setting for him to maximize his abilities. Italy isn't it.
I think he was pretty good. He isn't at the top level. He can do it but is not consistant enough. However he was better then Berbatov on the night.
I just think he's not brave enough and perhaps needs a coach that can tell him this. Talent is one thing but that chance in the second half where the cross went to the backstick and he was against evra - he didn't put his head in.
He didn't attack the ball like a top striker should. I think when we got the second goal he lost his head and discipline and just wasn't as effective
I just think he's not brave enough and perhaps needs a coach that can tell him this. Talent is one thing but that chance in the second half where the cross went to the backstick and he was against evra - he didn't put his head in.
He didn't attack the ball like a top striker should. I think when we got the second goal he lost his head and discipline and just wasn't as effective
He attacked it, Evra got a touch which he could do nothing about which changed the direction of the ball making him look stupid. It wasnt his night despite playing quite well.
Heskey with the skill and finishing of Berbatov.
He is a goal threat, he is great at one on ones and shooting from the edge of the area or inside the box. He had one shot inside the box, a difficult one that i think he should have done better with. The header he should have score, he headed it down like you should but he got too far over it and it hits the bar, unlucky but still a bad miss.
I know evra flicked it but we see people like vidic who really know how to attack the ball and I just think he could have put in a stronger challenge
I agree, i do. He should have knocked him out the way and bullet headered it. I think by that stage he had in a way given up. He looked dejected.
Funny, I remember Berbatov scoring in Europe for two worse teams than Inter.
He didn't do much last night but was better than he was in the first leg, the "best player in the world" should have buried that header he missed. I have a feeling the man who has that award on his mantlepiece would have tucked it away.
At this stage its probably worth pointing out that he's got shit hair and a big nose.
And pink boots.
I never said he was the best player in the world.
Nor do I know how many goals Berbatov has scored in the knockout stages of the CL. Nor am I sure that Leverkusen back then was a worse team than Inter is today, in light of the competition then and now.
The fact that Ibrahimovic failed to score against United isn't exactly damning. Or last season against Liverpool when they played with 10 men. Or again against liverpool the season before, or with ajax.
It's hardly relevent and it doesnt stop him being one of the best strikers in the world. People just love to start a hate campaign agaisnt players they dont see every week.
I never said you did call him the best player in the world. I was quoting Mourinho.
I don't know how many Berbatov has in the KO stages, the only stat I can show is goals in European competition (which presumably includes UEFA cup):
Berbatov - 32 goals in 56 matches
Ibrahimovic - 17 in 64 matches
I don't know how many Berbatov has in the KO stages, the only stat I can show is goals in European competition (which presumably includes UEFA cup):
Berbatov - 32 goals in 56 matches
Ibrahimovic - 17 in 64 matches
But for someone to be a world class player, one of the best in the world in fact, they have to do it on the biggest stage. It's a criticism that was thrown at Ronaldo all of last season until he shut them up, Ibrahimovic has done nothing to prove anyone wrong.
Ibrahimovic is extremely overrated.
In terms of footballing talent, he's one of the best, up with Ronnie and Messi. His attitude just stinks, and he regularly folds under pressure. At his age I can't see him improving further. It's all downhill from here on out, and that is a shame as he hasn't made the impact we all know he's capable of. Strikers peak at just above his age, a la Shevchenko, Ruud, Totti. He doesn't have Giggs' dedication so he won't improve at a later stage in his career.
Shame
Shame
I sort of agree with that last point Lizard, though I thought it was unfair towards Ronaldo last year, cause he already had 30 odd goals that season, before his goals against Liverpool and Roma etc.
Zlatan has scored some important goals for Sweden from what I can recall, but your stats show that he doesn`t get enough in Europe. I do think that is much because of the teams he plays for though. If he`d played for any of the English teams I reckon that stat would be a lot better, cause the talent is absolutely there.
Zlatan has scored some important goals for Sweden from what I can recall, but your stats show that he doesn`t get enough in Europe. I do think that is much because of the teams he plays for though. If he`d played for any of the English teams I reckon that stat would be a lot better, cause the talent is absolutely there.
with his touch and technique as long as he doesnt let himself go he'll play to 35.
His attitude isnt great, he's berbatov with more football...
He needs to finish his career at a team that really attack, Inter have only him, juve were better but capello didnt manage him well. He made him bulk up too much. I would love to see him at United or in England, or at Barca.
Zlatan is top, playing in a poorer team. He actually played a good game imo against us and let's face it, our defence is meant to be the best in the world. Look at when Torres played against us last season when he was supposedly "the best striker in the world" yet he didn't do shit against us and looked like a nobody. Ibra's performance against us with a worse team was a lot better.
He's fecking wank guys, and you know why?
He doesnt give a shit about his team.
After they went out, he was walking round being all smiley, if my team went out because i had failed to score a goal i would be straight down that tunnel with a fecking cob on.
Makes me sick all you muppets going on and on. I can see what you mean, he has ability, but without the drive and ambition to be the best, you are no better than a fecking newcastle player.
He doesnt give a shit about his team.
After they went out, he was walking round being all smiley, if my team went out because i had failed to score a goal i would be straight down that tunnel with a fecking cob on.
Makes me sick all you muppets going on and on. I can see what you mean, he has ability, but without the drive and ambition to be the best, you are no better than a fecking newcastle player.
A player "no better than a fecking newcastle player" doesn't win Serie A titles almost single handedly, playing with average players. Yeah he didn't score last night but he played a good game and it's not his fault that his team mates are garbage. You also don't win footballer of the year in Italy being shit.
I mean come on ffs there's criticism and then there's this bullshit. Excellent player playing in a shit team, done everything domestically, not much success on the European stage, team doesn't help either but it says a lot when he can win the team trophies domestically at least.
I would take Berbatov everytime. I have seen Ibra in about 10 top games (obviously I wouldn't watch the meaningless ones) internationally and club level. In each one of those he has stunk like socks a week old. Yet all I see are stats put in front of me accompanied by cum.
Berbatov on the other hand I've seen in about 10 top games, and his overall play has meant Spurs/Man Utd have won games either by a goal or a direct assist.
All this talk of Man Utd being better than Inter is toss. Its Inter ffs, not Napoli!!
Christ, thats nearly spot on Dumpy...
He doesn't play for good teams. He would be incredible at United.
dont be a muppet.
How can inter be a shit team? It takes more than one player to win a game.
He didnt play a good game, he should have scored! As soon as we went 2-0 ahead, he didnt give a feck. Thats what i meant about a newcastle player. HE DOESNT GIVE A feck!!!
That sort of player never has the attitude to reach the limit of their potential.
He is of that sort.
At least 'tov gets attached to the game.
Moves from rivals Juve to Inter, is a class apart in their league and is the key to his club dominating the league but is mediocre in Europe. He is their Cantona 
Moves from rivals Juve to Inter, is a class apart in their league and is the key to his club dominating the league but is mediocre in Europe. He is their Cantona
Or maybe even their Henry...
Ibrahimovic played much better football in the first half on Wednesday than Berbatov did in the whole of two legs combined. Incidentally this is the only time Ibrahimovic turned up in the two legs.
For the record, Ibrahimovic is a gifted player, his abundant quality is there and is world class. He lacks the mental application though especially when the going gets tough.
For the record, Ibrahimovic is a gifted player, his abundant quality is there and is world class. He lacks the mental application though especially when the going gets tough.
This is a very accurate post