Ibra to AC Milan?

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SFraser, I think it's worth pointing out that because of all of this the striker is now acting as something of a decoy a lot of the time, a player that occupies the central defenders to allow space for the wide attackers. Not only does Villa struggle with this particular part of the game, it takes away from many of the parts he excels in as well. We saw for Spain how against a team of heavily packed and condensed central midfields and defences how he struggled to get involved when he was moved down the middle, because not only was he limited space to work himself but he struggled to be the provider of space to the other attackers as well.

Torres was woefully out of form but he still did the basics of the role a lot better than Villa did, because it's a role he can do, but there are question marks about Villa in that area. He's played up front on his own for Valencia to great effect but he's never did it for a team that dominated possession to the extent Barcelona or Spain do. I think it could take a lot away from his game.

That being said it's an incredibly fluid attack and Villa will inevitably drift out to the left and the right with Pedro and Messi happily coming centrally to provide a similarly direct threat, and he'll score plenty from doing so, but again they'll never occupy the centre backs in the same way.
 
Zlatan Ibrahimovic was without a shadow of a doubt the best player in Italy for for years in a row. And he did good for Barcelona this season, despite of what some muppets in here claim. If they sign him, they know exactly what they are getting... It would be a signing with a rather low risk, if they get him - they get quality.

I don't know about the defense. There were many defenders whom got there last season, they are more played together this season, as well as two new defenders has signed. And last but not least a new goalkeeper that was desperatly needed. I think the defensive problems last season might have to do something with the manager as well...

They are a better team this season, and if Zlatan signs, they will be contenders for the scudetto.

He is not going to solve Milan's problems, namely a weak defense and an ancient midfield. If anything AC are relatively ok in attack with Ronaldinho, Pato, Boriello, Huntelaar and ... Inzaghi.
 
First of all, Zlatan did not flop at Barcelona. He scored 16 goals and 8 assists, in 29 matches according to soccerway.com he played 2065 minutes that equals about 23 full matches. Statistically he did very well. I don't care how much you cost, that is very impressive. Zlatan is without a doubt one of the best players in the world.

The logic of signing him is rather simple, he was to use his creativity and vision to create goals for Messi and Henry (and Pedro that sort of took over from him, but they could not know that in the beginning of the season). The reason for selling him is just as obvios, when you have the best playmakers in the world, you want fast attackers such as David Villa, which is why they want to do that. But to say that his goal record last season was bad is ridiciolous. At the end of the day, swapping Villa with Zlatan will not make Barcelona a mentionably better team. Rather him nor Villa would be the best player at Barcelona.

Before that, he was with out a qustion the best player in Italy for years. He would be a great signing for any Italian side. And signing him would increase AC Milan chances of taking the scudetto back from Inter by quite a bit.
You can spin it as you want but if a club dumps a star player after one season, he is a flop.

Barca bought him because they wanted to add another dimension to their games. They already had enough players with creative vision and playmaking skills to feed their attackers. He was supposed to be their answer to teams like Chelsea and Inter since he had shown at Inter he could play alone upfront and take care of two CBs.

I rate him BTW. I saw all of his years at Inter and he was without a doubt the best player there. But it is hyperbole to say he is one of the best players out there, you do not become that by not making an impact in big games. Villa for one is definitely a better striker than him. Zlatan could potentially be one of the best players in the world, but that has been true for some time now.
 
Would be a good signing for almost any club, but he does seem to lack the mentality to cut it at the very top - i.e. the big big games.

All the talent in the world, without the correct application/mentality.
 
Torres was woefully out of form but he still did the basics of the role a lot better than Villa did

I think the half hour Llorente offered against Portugal was the best central striker foil Villa had all tournament. He did the basics of that role very well.
 
You can spin it as you want but if a club dumps a star player after one season, he is a flop.

Barca bought him because they wanted to add another dimension to their games. They already had enough players with creative vision and playmaking skills to feed their attackers. He was supposed to be their answer to teams like Chelsea and Inter since he had shown at Inter he could play alone upfront and take care of two CBs.

I rate him BTW. I saw all of his years at Inter and he was without a doubt the best player there. But it is hyperbole to say he is one of the best players out there, you do not become that by not making an impact in big games. Villa for one is definitely a better striker than him. Zlatan could potentially be one of the best players in the world, but that has been true for some time now.

The thing is as I have already posted, they have done a lot about their problems. They have a more experienced manager this season than they did last season. That might improve them a bit.

They signed a lot of defenders last season - now all of those has more playing time and is more of a unit back there. On top of that they have signed two new experienced Serie A defenders (one young, one old), and last but not least a new good goalkeeper, because that has been a bigger problem than the defense itself.

Kevin Prince Boateng did decent both in the World Cup and for Portsmouth last season, and Ronaldinho had his best season for years last season. They have a decent midfield. If Zlatan signs, he will improve their attack. As you say he was the best player in Inter, Zlatan - Pato is the best pair in Serie A for a long time. Zlatan was the best player in Italy for years, and it would not surprise me one bit if he took that title back if he returned. And he never flopped in Barcelona neither, he had a great season. Performing is hard when you have a manager that does not believe in you or simply just wants another tactical option.

And it is not like they were a crappy side last season neither, they ended third, and did well against us at San Siro. Rafa Benitez has signed nobody. I don't think he is as good as Jose Mourinho, quite far from it. I am not sure AS Roma are going to deliver as well as they did last seasons neither. They were 12 points behind Inter last season, Zlatan might be a 10 point signing. It would aid AC Milans chances of winning the scudetto.
 
Will this actually happen or is it just Zlatans agent being a dick as usual?

I think it'd be a mistake for Barcelona, he offers them something different and despite how good Pedro was i can't see him maintaining his level. Sometimes i watch him and am baffled that he done so well.

You ideally start with Villa, Ibra, Messi and then you have Bojan and Pedro for rotation. As much as i love Iniesta as a player i still think he should be playing in the middle with Xavi rather than out on the left.
 
Marcotti reporting that Ibra deal is done. Year loan with Milan being forced to agree to a fixed fee next summer.
 
Marcotti reporting that Ibra deal is done. Year loan with Milan being forced to agree to a fixed fee next summer.

Milan have totally lucked out so. Time to raise enough cash. And even then it'll probably be in installments.
 
Too extravagant for Milan. We need full backs, a CB to eventually replace Nesta, wingers... the list goes on and on.

Pato, Huntelaar, Borriello and Inzaghi are adequate for the time being.
 
Milan have totally lucked out so. Time to raise enough cash. And even then it'll probably be in installments.
It's still a lot of money though (Marcotti is reporting something like €15m loan fee + obligated €40m transfer fee next season). €55m (~£45m) is a load of money and Milan could easily buy 3-4 players for that amount of money to fix other areas of their squad that need much more work. This deal is far too short-term for Milan, who need medium- and long-term fixes.
 
SFraser, I think it's worth pointing out that because of all of this the striker is now acting as something of a decoy a lot of the time, a player that occupies the central defenders to allow space for the wide attackers. Not only does Villa struggle with this particular part of the game, it takes away from many of the parts he excels in as well. We saw for Spain how against a team of heavily packed and condensed central midfields and defences how he struggled to get involved when he was moved down the middle, because not only was he limited space to work himself but he struggled to be the provider of space to the other attackers as well.

Torres was woefully out of form but he still did the basics of the role a lot better than Villa did, because it's a role he can do, but there are question marks about Villa in that area. He's played up front on his own for Valencia to great effect but he's never did it for a team that dominated possession to the extent Barcelona or Spain do. I think it could take a lot away from his game.

That being said it's an incredibly fluid attack and Villa will inevitably drift out to the left and the right with Pedro and Messi happily coming centrally to provide a similarly direct threat, and he'll score plenty from doing so, but again they'll never occupy the centre backs in the same way.

I think Villa will be fine up front, I think people forget that even prior to the world cup he's played well up front on his own for Spain. Did very well against England in a friendly too.
 
Ibrahimovic and Raiola are finalizing some last details at a separate office. One last signature should be put. [gazzetta]

Ibrahimovic and Galliani talking in the hall of the Camp Nou offices. [via @escolanmarca]

Milan-Barcelona: 25M, first year on loan, obligation to buy next year. Milan-Ibrahimovic: 4-year contract, 8M a year. [gazzetta]

Rosell, Galliani, Ibrahimovic and Raiola have left the president's office. They are getting ready to come out and face the press [milannews]

Berlusconi has left Milanello. The announcement of the transfer of Ibrahimovic will take place in Barcelona. [milannews]

The presentation of Ibrahimovic would happen 15 minuts before the league game against Lecce tomorrow evening. [milannews


So it's done now I assume?
 
I just heard on RTE that it's not confirmed. But that Barca did accept a €24 million bid

Madness
 
So Milan will pay anything up to 20 mill for the first year of his "loan" (according to some sources) and then a further 24 million euros to make it permanent the next year? Barca have recovered a lot more from their transfer cock up than they should have done.

Is adding another 28 year old, the best thing for Milan to do? Or is Berlusconi just going for a marquee signing to win a few votes? (Iirc someone mentioned an upcoming election)
 
I just heard on RTE that it's not confirmed. But that Barca did accept a €24 million bid

Madness

Milan are forking out big for the first year of his loan too. Barca aren't about to let go of Ibrahimovic for the same fee as we paid for Nani. They'd be better off keeping him in the squad.
 
So Milan will pay anything up to 20 mill for the first year of his "loan" (according to some sources) and then a further 24 million euros to make it permanent the next year? Barca have recovered a lot more from their transfer cock up than they should have done.

Is adding another 28 year old, the best thing for Milan to do? Or is Berlusconi just going for a marquee signing to win a few votes? (Iirc someone mentioned an upcoming election)

any links?
 
This is amazing news. Pretty big question mark over Guardiola now.
 
AC MILAN - Sito Ufficiale - Official Website

the first thing that happen when you go to the homepage is "IBRAHIMOVIC". According to the AC Milan homepage it looks like they got him for only €24m... :S

Will they disclose what they're paying to get him on loan for the first year? Believe you me, it won't be free. Many top clubs would pay 24 million euros for someone of Ibrahimovic's quality, its peanuts nowadays. I'd bet anything that, the loan fee payable to Barca would be a big one.
 
Spanish press reporting it as a 24m Euro deal - no mention of any extra payments, just that Milan don't need to hand over the cash until next year. It's assumed that this means that Milan can now meet Zlatan's wage demands in full.
 
Will they disclose what they're paying to get him on loan for the first year? Believe you me, it won't be free. Many top clubs would pay 24 million euros for someone of Ibrahimovic's quality, its peanuts nowadays. I'd bet anything that, the loan fee payable to Barca would be a big one.

I just think I understand it from Italian, there is no English link yet. There are noway they are paying €24m to loan him.


Original text:
MILANO - L'A.C. Milan ha acquisito dal F.C. Barcellona il calciatore Zlatan Ibrahimovic, in prestito gratuito con diritto di opzione da esercitarsi alla fine della stagione sportiva 2010-2011 alla cifra di 24 milioni di Euro. Il campione svedese sosterrà lunedì mattina le visite mediche, dopo le quali firmerà un contratto che lo legherà alla Società rossonera per 4 anni.
translated on dictionary.com:
MILAN - AC Milan have acquired the FC Barcelona soccer player Zlatan Ibrahimovic in free loan with option rights to be exercised at the end of the season 2010-2011 to 24 million euros. The Swedish champion will support a medical on Monday morning, after which he will sign a contract that will tie him to the Company Rossoneri for four years.

On top of that I guess they pay his wages. I am not sure what that is but if its £150,000 that equals about £8m
 
Loan this season, option to buy him next year for 24 million Euros, if that is all they pay for the transfer fee then it's a good deal.
 
Spanish press reporting it as a 24m Euro deal - no mention of any extra payments, just that Milan don't need to hand over the cash until next year. It's assumed that this means that Milan can now meet Zlatan's wage demands in full.

I just think I understand it from Italian, there is no English link yet. There are noway they are paying €24m to loan him.

translated on dictionary.com:
MILAN - AC Milan have acquired the FC Barcelona soccer player Zlatan Ibrahimovic in free loan with option rights to be exercised at the end of the season 2010-2011 to 24 million euros. The Swedish champion will support a medical on Monday morning, after which he will sign a contract that will tie him to the Company Rossoneri for four years.

Weren't there reports earlier of a loan fee as well? I just can't believe that there wouldn't be a queue of top teams prepared to pay that same fee for Ibrahimovic. That is literally peanuts, Barca weren't that desperate to get rid of him, surely?! Is the fee worth losing some real quality from your squad?
 
Weren't there reports earlier of a loan fee as well? I just can't believe that there wouldn't be a queue of top teams prepared to pay that same fee for Ibrahimovic. That is literally peanuts, Barca weren't that desperate to get rid of him, surely?! Is the fee worth losing some real quality from your squad?

They lose quality, but they prevent a situation where there will be disharmony in the squad, as was the case when Ronaldinho, Deco and Eto' were all there. Ibra's not going to be first choice ahead of Villa, and there's little point keeping him to play meaningless games when you have the likes of Bojan who isn't going to complain as much as Ibra would.

Plus, the fee they receive will probably be going into the Fibreglass fund for next season, so it's not all bad for Barca.
 
free loan, 24 million euro is cheap for someone of that quality in serie a. he will once again become the best player in serie a, nqat. ibra is serious quality for milan. great deal IMO.
 
Weren't there reports earlier of a loan fee as well? I just can't believe that there wouldn't be a queue of top teams prepared to pay that same fee for Ibrahimovic. That is literally peanuts, Barca weren't that desperate to get rid of him, surely?! Is the fee worth losing some real quality from your squad?

Dont know. That is taken from AC Milans homepage.
 
They lose quality, but they prevent a situation where there will be disharmony in the squad, as was the case when Ronaldinho, Deco and Eto' were all there. Ibra's not going to be first choice ahead of Villa, and there's little point keeping him to play meaningless games when you have the likes of Bojan who isn't going to complain as much as Ibra would.

Plus, the fee they receive will probably be going into the Fibreglass fund for next season, so it's not all bad for Barca.

If Villa gets injured, can they really expect young Bojan to step up (as well as someone of Ibra's caliber would)? It could prove very costly for them. If they did just want to get rid of him, do you really believe that 24 million euros is the best they could have got for him? Not a chance imo. Hence why I think there's a real possibility of a loan fee also being applicable.
 
doesn't that leave barca a bit short of forward selling Henry and Ibrahimovic and only Villa coming in?
 
Zlatan and Guardiola could not continue at the same club, they didn't even talk to each other so there was no other solution than to leave for Z.
 
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